Bern

[Fzzxx]

Can anyone explain the pricing at freubad?

I guess aktionspreise are like vouchers for the girls? Do you need to use them all the same day?

Direkt Service is the non-discounted one-time price (in house)?

What are the room rentals for? Do you need to get a room in addition to a girl?

Thanks.

https://www.freubad.ch/page/preise

[Cowens]

I searched a bit in the websites you mentioned, looks like the choice of 20 to 24 y girls is very limited if not null.

Don't forget that we are in a (family) holidays period for both the providers and customers and many girls should be back to their country and don't have active ads.

If you were searching for good restaurants open currently, you will have the same difficulty to find something. I don't know when you travel, but I would suggest to search again mid-January to see how the supply is in a more normal period.

[Sirioja]

If You look for paid sex, I would not go to Riga for this. Freubad SO have free entry, to look at casting.

Sorry, not really free but 30 to pay when You leave Freubad SO.

[Sirioja]

Merci.

I searched a bit in the websites you mentioned, looks like the choice of 20 to 24 y girls is very limited if not null.

Dunno if I could enjoy a travel without at least 2 visits to an erotic massage parlor, I am contemplating Riga and Warsaw now.

If You look for paid sex, I would not go to Riga for this. Freubad SO have free entry, to look at casting.

[TheWhatever]

I am not living in Bern, but here are some answers from Switzerland:

1) prostitution is legal in whole Switzerland, but every state / county might have its own rules on how to practice it (need to register, where to practice it, etc.). As far as I know there should be not issue with incall in Bern.

2) I am in the French-speaking part of CH, so I don't look at German-speaking websites as market is very segmented. There are many of them like xdate. Ch, lustmap. Ch or and6.com. I don't know if there is a "best". For massages, massage123. Ch is an option. To my knowledge, 6profi-forum.com is the best local source of knowledge from other punters.

3) single provider vs FKK choice. Both Cleo in Bargen and Freubad in Recherswill are clubs that offer nice "happy hour" packages around 200-230 CHF for one hour of sex, 15-20 minutes drive from Bern. I doubt you will pay less on the web. Additional bonuses: some guaranty of services (Kiss, FN) + actually seeing & talking to the woman before choosing + having a management that cares a little about the quality of the place vs having a phone operator promising everything and not caring about fu**ing you and the surprise that your choice doesn't look exactly like the pictures on the website.

There are also some higher-end /high-quality escort services available, but if you think that FKK are too expensive, I don't think this is what you are looking for.

Merci.

I searched a bit in the websites you mentioned, looks like the choice of 20 to 24 y girls is very limited if not null.

Dunno if I could enjoy a travel without at least 2 visits to an erotic massage parlor, I am contemplating Riga and Warsaw now.

[Cowens]

How's the incall full sex and erotic massage scene in Bern?

Is incall escorts legal?
If yes where are the best web address to find them?

I am not into FKK, too expensive and I don't care about swimming or sauna

I am not living in Bern, but here are some answers from Switzerland:

1) prostitution is legal in whole Switzerland, but every state / county might have its own rules on how to practice it (need to register, where to practice it, etc.). As far as I know there should be not issue with incall in Bern.

2) I am in the French-speaking part of CH, so I don't look at German-speaking websites as market is very segmented. There are many of them like xdate. Ch, lustmap. Ch or and6.com. I don't know if there is a "best". For massages, massage123. Ch is an option. To my knowledge, 6profi-forum.com is the best local source of knowledge from other punters.

3) single provider vs FKK choice. Both Cleo in Bargen and Freubad in Recherswill are clubs that offer nice "happy hour" packages around 200-230 CHF for one hour of sex, 15-20 minutes drive from Bern. I doubt you will pay less on the web. Additional bonuses: some guaranty of services (Kiss, FN) + actually seeing & talking to the woman before choosing + having a management that cares a little about the quality of the place vs having a phone operator promising everything and not caring about fu**ing you and the surprise that your choice doesn't look exactly like the pictures on the website.

There are also some higher-end /high-quality escort services available, but if you think that FKK are too expensive, I don't think this is what you are looking for.

[TheWhatever]

Hello.

How's the incall full sex and erotic massage scene in Bern?

Is incall escorts legal? If yes where are the best web address to find them?

Same question for erotic massages.

I am not into FKK, too expensive and I don't care about swimming or sauna

[Cowens]

I see now they are turning the inside area into a beach club during winter, and finally heating the indoor pool (which used to be fucking freezing even in August).

I have checked the work in progress. Currently they have replaced some of the comfortable sofas around the pool with the less comfortable furniture from the garden, including two of the "baskets" which could be used for "public sex". They have also removed the caches from the two big windows that are above the balcony opposite to the bar. This is nice has now in the afternoon the natural daylight replace the previous dim jazz club-style lights.

[ShoesAndSocks]

If you add to this the closure of the garden and the transition to the inside-only experience in Freubad, there wasn't many customers on average in the bar area during my visits in October. It is clearly a calm buyer market. TBH, the open layout of the Freubad bar doesn't help feeling something is happening compared to the regular pole dancing and complex interior of the Globe.

I see now they are turning the inside area into a beach club during winter, and finally heating the indoor pool (which used to be fucking freezing even in August).

That inside area is so huge. You could service a space shuttle in there.

[Sirioja]

So this was my second summer at the Freubad and its famous garden. The comparison is hazardous as the context, the weather, the manager and 95% of the team are different from the summer of 2022. However, my impression is that there wasn't any significant activity improvement from last year when there was a "restart" of the club. The garden is certainly an attraction, but it is also mainly available in a period (July-August) where many local customers are on holiday. We had an Indian Summer month of September in Switzerland and there I could see a better influx of visitors. Furthermore, I can see also the garden as a distraction. What else do you have to do besides fucking at Globe? (I know it is slightly exaggerated) At the Freubad you can swim, sunbath and have a beer or an ice cream in the sun. Many things that make you happy without going to a room. ;O) I can see some patterns of young guys coming in for some drinks and shishas and then just "renting" some girls presence with lady drinks instead of going into the room.

Most of the line-up of the beginning of the year seems still present after the summer, even if business was soso (one of my fear after the big exode of autumn 2022). A few have moved away, sometimes joining the Torsten-influenced clubs of the Imperium network: Westside, Swiss & Palace. I think that the current core line-up provides the club with the presence of 25-30 "Swiss-tested" girls (considering there need for holidays) and as soon as the number goes up, the club is filled with unknown girls. The "60-70 girls" banner has been visible on the website all summer, but this didn't happen most of the summer, except for special partys. I think also that 30 girls look like the right number for most of them to achieve sustainable income. As soon as you had 40-50 girls, competition was fierce and the one that don't have an existing customer portfolio or are not proactively hunting for customers are not working a lot. Many new girls didn't stay long, some due to an apparent lack of attractivity but other that should have attracted optifuck customers left quickly. You can see an example of what I classify in this category with the girl mostly featured in the website video (no mask, dark glasses, red bikini, large flower tattoo in the back). I think her name was Sandra and she was kind of nice to watch walking naked in the garden. However, I don't think she stayed more than a couple of weeks. The only newcomer that I see as a returning star this year is Zayra: young, intelligent, sexy (with a twist) and service oriented in the room. She rarely had to spend a lot of time waiting for customers and in case she goes to find one; O).

The overall mood of girls is not very optimistic. What I hear from them is that there is a slowdown in business that seems to impact all Swiss clubs and some regulars have stop coming. The economic news are bad with a lot of layoff announcements. Beside the famous UBS / CS merger, Google recently fired all its recruitment people in Zurich. In addition, the rapid increase of interest rates means less disposable income for all people with mortgages. If you add to this the closure of the garden and the transition to the inside-only experience in Freubad, there wasn't many customers on average in the bar area during my visits in October. It is clearly a calm buyer market. TBH, the open layout of the Freubad bar doesn't help feeling something is happening compared to the regular pole dancing and complex interior of the Globe. The club has recently introduced an evening happy hour (19 h-22 h) and lower the "free entrance with clothes" threshold from 22 h to 20 h. We will see if it helps. I doubt. Currently, there seems to be also no return of fix FKK days, opting instead for "themed" Thursday-Sunday.

My conclusion is still the same: the Freubad offers the best choice / price / quality ratio for paid sex in Western Switzerland, especially for residents of the French-speaking areas. Getting the full potential might however require being a returning customer (and being one surely biases both my view of the club and how the club views me) Compared to the Globe there is certainly a more relaxed atmosphere and better infrastructures in Freubad. I will however not recommend it to people that are already criticizing the Globe line-up for a lack of quality or if you are only visiting Switzerland once, especially in the autumn to spring period.

Final anecdote: I was there during a police control a sunny and busy afternoon of September. Not only did they check the girls, but they asked customers in the garden to go to their lockers and come back with an ID. Needless to say, at least 2/3 of the customers decided instead to leave the club.

Not anymore same quality, not anymore flexible management, so I lose only once 200 . I agree for Zayra ex Imperium, but looks also fell compare to Summer 2022 . Not anymore a good value in FKK land. Even at Wellcum. At, I got a woman image really fkissing and BBBJ for140/60 , like what I m used in Germany.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I can see also the garden as a distraction. What else do you have to do besides fucking at Globe? (I know it is slightly exaggerated) At the Freubad you can swim, sunbath and have a beer or an ice cream in the sun.

I found this during my May visits to Freubad. I got too chilled lazing in the garden, whereas at Globe I have a sole focus on fucking, then leaving. Better I think to spend a day doing one or the other.

I endorse your non-recommendation of Freubad as an alternative for anyone who has been a Globe regular.

Great report as always.

[Cowens]

So this was my second summer at the Freubad and its famous garden. The comparison is hazardous as the context, the weather, the manager and 95% of the team are different from the summer of 2022. However, my impression is that there wasn't any significant activity improvement from last year when there was a "restart" of the club. The garden is certainly an attraction, but it is also mainly available in a period (July-August) where many local customers are on holiday. We had an Indian Summer month of September in Switzerland and there I could see a better influx of visitors. Furthermore, I can see also the garden as a distraction. What else do you have to do besides fucking at Globe? (I know it is slightly exaggerated) At the Freubad you can swim, sunbath and have a beer or an ice cream in the sun. Many things that make you happy without going to a room. ;O) I can see some patterns of young guys coming in for some drinks and shishas and then just "renting" some girls presence with lady drinks instead of going into the room.

Most of the line-up of the beginning of the year seems still present after the summer, even if business was soso (one of my fear after the big exode of autumn 2022). A few have moved away, sometimes joining the Torsten-influenced clubs of the Imperium network: Westside, Swiss & Palace. I think that the current core line-up provides the club with the presence of 25-30 "Swiss-tested" girls (considering there need for holidays) and as soon as the number goes up, the club is filled with unknown girls. The "60-70 girls" banner has been visible on the website all summer, but this didn't happen most of the summer, except for special partys. I think also that 30 girls look like the right number for most of them to achieve sustainable income. As soon as you had 40-50 girls, competition was fierce and the one that don't have an existing customer portfolio or are not proactively hunting for customers are not working a lot. Many new girls didn't stay long, some due to an apparent lack of attractivity but other that should have attracted optifuck customers left quickly. You can see an example of what I classify in this category with the girl mostly featured in the website video (no mask, dark glasses, red bikini, large flower tattoo in the back). I think her name was Sandra and she was kind of nice to watch walking naked in the garden. However, I don't think she stayed more than a couple of weeks. The only newcomer that I see as a returning star this year is Zayra: young, intelligent, sexy (with a twist) and service oriented in the room. She rarely had to spend a lot of time waiting for customers and in case she goes to find one; O).

The overall mood of girls is not very optimistic. What I hear from them is that there is a slowdown in business that seems to impact all Swiss clubs and some regulars have stop coming. The economic news are bad with a lot of layoff announcements. Beside the famous UBS / CS merger, Google recently fired all its recruitment people in Zurich. In addition, the rapid increase of interest rates means less disposable income for all people with mortgages. If you add to this the closure of the garden and the transition to the inside-only experience in Freubad, there wasn't many customers on average in the bar area during my visits in October. It is clearly a calm buyer market. TBH, the open layout of the Freubad bar doesn't help feeling something is happening compared to the regular pole dancing and complex interior of the Globe. The club has recently introduced an evening happy hour (19 h-22 h) and lower the "free entrance with clothes" threshold from 22 h to 20 h. We will see if it helps. I doubt. Currently, there seems to be also no return of fix FKK days, opting instead for "themed" Thursday-Sunday.

My conclusion is still the same: the Freubad offers the best choice / price / quality ratio for paid sex in Western Switzerland, especially for residents of the French-speaking areas. Getting the full potential might however require being a returning customer (and being one surely biases both my view of the club and how the club views me) Compared to the Globe there is certainly a more relaxed atmosphere and better infrastructures in Freubad. I will however not recommend it to people that are already criticizing the Globe line-up for a lack of quality or if you are only visiting Switzerland once, especially in the autumn to spring period.

Final anecdote: I was there during a police control a sunny and busy afternoon of September. Not only did they check the girls, but they asked customers in the garden to go to their lockers and come back with an ID. Needless to say, at least 2/3 of the customers decided instead to leave the club.

[PaulInZurich]

As a customer you are not competing with Goldkueste sugar daddies that monopolize women

Almost random example from yesterday morning. Waiting at the traffic light to cross the street that brings people from the Goldkueste along the lake into Zuerich a bit after 6 am after my morning swim. These must be people that have a job if they drive into Zuerich at 6 am on a Tuesday. When I crossed the street, waiting at the traffic light: 2 Ferraris, 1 Lamborghini, 1 Bentley, 5+ Porsches, 2 delivery vans. WTF.

[Sirioja]

Some spend very big money at Freubad.

[PaulInZurich]

As a customer you are not competing with Goldkueste sugar daddies that monopolize women and many girls are living on 30-60 minutes sessions, interested to make these great so you will be a return customer.

Fair point, that is an issue around Zurich. Lots of people with a lot of money to spend.