Zurich

[Belbo]

Is that CHF1,000 inclusive of the time with the SP? In other words, any session over two hours qualifies for the presidential suite? Or is that 1,000 ontop of what you pay the SP?

As far as I have understood, you can use the President Suite only if you take at least 2 girls (so, 2 girls for half a hour is 1000 CHF).

I start understanding what Franz may have in mind; in Aphrodisia parties (where everything is possible, even that you do everything but sex!) are very popular, but the rooms are not so big. The rooms in the former Rouge were the by far the best in Zurich and now they are probably even better, so it is likely that the club aims at making most of the money mainly with parties.

However, unless something in Aphrodisia changes, they are simply moving customers to one place to another and not attracting more customers; I am still not persuaded that the business model can work, but Franz knows the business better than me.

For sure, I'll check it out, just out of curiosity; I mean, if you drink only soft drinks, the price are the same as Aphrodisia, so if the girls are worth, why not?

[PaulInZurich]

Pricing is crazy expensive and it will only attract a certain crowd where money is no real consideration. Being in Oerlikon is also only a soso area.

They clearly want in this club only more discreet people who don't care about money, even more than Aphrodisia (where drinks are free). Free translation from their website "You won't be in the middle of loud guys". There are enough people in the Zurich area with plenty of disposable income who prefer not to mix with a Balkan disco crowd on a weekend.

[Fake It]

Pricing is crazy expensive and it will only attract a certain crowd where money is no real consideration. Being in Oerlikon is also only a soso area.

https://www.medusa.ch/node/5743?language=en


If you want wellness you have to get the presidential suite and spend a minimum of 1000 CHF.

Is that CHF1,000 inclusive of the time with the SP? In other words, any session over two hours qualifies for the presidential suite? Or is that 1,000 ontop of what you pay the SP?

[Martin39]

This place looks great. I feel the market is ripe for a new entrant at the moment. Pre-covid all clubs were so well established that there was no flexibility or appetite for change. But now the market is in flux and clearly the competition for girls and customers is high. Globe has made its moves to improve their offering. Aphro still has lots of ground to regain since re-opening. And whatever Bum-slap is now called is still trying to find its niche (Apart from capturing the rejects of the top two). A new top class club with an owner who has access to a deep network of girls might just well be perfectly timed right now. I will visit soon, that's for sure.

Pricing is crazy expensive and it will only attract a certain crowd where money is no real consideration. Being in Oerlikon is also only a soso area.

https://www.medusa.ch/node/5743?language=en

280 for 30 minutes and look at the drink prices. 20 CHF for a small beer.

You will see the same girls Franz has at his other clubs but pay a lot more.

If you want wellness you have to get the presidential suite and spend a minimum of 1000 CHF.

[PaulInZurich]

So the top girl is not Maxi, but Nayla;

She was promoted to Aphrodisia today.

[PaulInZurich]

Zurich is of course a much prettier city.

Frankfurt old town is pretty, but it was all rebuilt after WW2. Zurich old town is quite small. The area around the lake is nice to hang out, especially on a clear spring day, with a clear view towards the mountains.

[PaulInZurich]

This place looks great. I feel the market is ripe for a new entrant at the moment.

I am not so optimistic because it belongs to one of the two existing chains. I think they will just redistribute their existing WG pool. It has Aphro prices, remains to be seen how they will position it. Maybe top WGs will go to Medusa and there will be less WGs in Aphro?

[Belbo]

I wonder if there will be new girls or if there will just be a redistribution of the girls between Amesia, Aphro, Beatrice and Medusa.

At the time of the old Rouge, the club has as almost an independent channel, to recruit the girls from; it was probably the club with the higher variety in terms of nationalities, with the % of Rumanian girls never higher than 50% and a good number of other nationalities (Hungary, Germany, Bulgaria, Poland, Baltic).

Let's see if there will be new girls or there will be there only a redistribution of talent coming from the other clubs of the chain.

This place looks great. I feel the market is ripe for a new entrant at the moment. Pre-covid all clubs were so well established that there was no flexibility or appetite for change. But now the market is in flux and clearly the competition for girls and customers is high. Globe has made its moves to improve their offering. Aphro still has lots of ground to regain since re-opening. And whatever Bum-slap is now called is still trying to find its niche (Apart from capturing the rejects of the top two). A new top class club with an owner who has access to a deep network of girls might just well be perfectly timed right now. I will visit soon, that's for sure.

In my opinion the club risks to be a copy of Aphrodisia; I honestly do not see significant differences between the two models and the market segment they are targeting, so the result may be a cannibalization.

Regarding the recent changes in Globe, I have expressed my personal opinion, they are not for me; I have been there recently out of curiosity and disappointed more by the level of girls than the usual porno movie set environment, which says a lot.

Aphrodisia level is far from its best, but in my personal opinion still better than Globe; what is deteriorating is the performance of the girls, who do their job, they are nice, they make some efforts to please you, but simply miss the last mile to consider the session a "wow" one.

I have checked out recently also Amesia, a club who has never convinced me, and positively surprised by two things.

- There were a lot of active customers, something that creates the proper environment; the girls were all happy and relaxed. I do not go there very often, but I have never seen in Amesia / Bumsalp this level of energy.

- The level of girls was pretty good, with a few attractive and doable girls and at least to tops who would stand out everywhere; one brunette with a super body and a very cute blonde girl. I'm not sure if that depends on the elegant and sexy dresses of the girls, but I found the level of girls higher than the current one in Globe.

[Fake It]

On the 24th of June the former Club Rouge will open again with the name of Club Medusa under the Aphrodisa chain, and, for what I have understood, as a luxury club, even more luxury than Aphrodisia!!

Not clear, but entrance seems free and wellness area are now only in the President room; does somebody have more precise information?

https://www.medusa.ch/

Time will tell if this is the right move, I'll miss the former small and very elegant Sauna Club.

This place looks great. I feel the market is ripe for a new entrant at the moment. Pre-covid all clubs were so well established that there was no flexibility or appetite for change. But now the market is in flux and clearly the competition for girls and customers is high. Globe has made its moves to improve their offering. Aphro still has lots of ground to regain since re-opening. And whatever Bum-slap is now called is still trying to find its niche (Apart from capturing the rejects of the top two). A new top class club with an owner who has access to a deep network of girls might just well be perfectly timed right now. I will visit soon, that's for sure.

[Zumboit]

That's something I'm pondering myself

Check out my Globe post for my answer. Compared to my two nights at Sharks some months ago, Globe is by far the better option.

[Sirioja]

That's something I'm pondering myself as I'm planning my first post pandemic tour. Normally I swear by Frankfurt FKKs in particular Sharks, Oase and Palace but all the reports are suggesting that the default prices are now E100/30 minutes or E150/60 minutes for BBJ with no improvement in quality of girls or service (Palace had pretty much gone to that pricing even before the pandemic).

I understand Globe for instance is still more expensive but is it true that the quality of women there is better than in the aforementioned Frankfurt FKKs. Likewise is the service generally better and no shortchanging on time. Also, what numbers are there normally and finally is there a good plan be or back-up plan in Zurich? Checking this forum to find out. I seem to recall reading that Aphrodisiac is the crme la crme but is CHF500 per hour.

Zurich is of course a much prettier city. But if youve got 1-2 weeks youve got plenty of time to do both. My situation is either a 3 day tour of Frankfurt which Ive done plenty of times or 1-2 nights in Zurich which although Ive visited have never mongers in and for some reason have the impression that Globe is the best FKK in Europe so have that on my to do list.

Globe best club in Europe? Where did you find this? Not even in ZH, when I would not go with more than 90% of Globe girls for German rate = 50/30 .

When I drive in Zurich, I don't find beautiful compare to my home town, or even Geneva round Leman.

[Be Wilder]

If you were to plan a 1-2 week sex vacation trip which would you choose. Frankfurt or zurich? Money doesn't matter in the decision.

That's something I'm pondering myself as I'm planning my first post pandemic tour. Normally I swear by Frankfurt FKKs in particular Sharks, Oase and Palace but all the reports are suggesting that the default prices are now E100/30 minutes or E150/60 minutes for BBJ with no improvement in quality of girls or service (Palace had pretty much gone to that pricing even before the pandemic).

I understand Globe for instance is still more expensive but is it true that the quality of women there is better than in the aforementioned Frankfurt FKKs. Likewise is the service generally better and no shortchanging on time. Also, what numbers are there normally and finally is there a good plan be or back-up plan in Zurich? Checking this forum to find out. I seem to recall reading that Aphrodisiac is the crme la crme but is CHF500 per hour.

Zurich is of course a much prettier city. But if you’ve got 1-2 weeks you’ve got plenty of time to do both. My situation is either a 3 day tour of Frankfurt which I’ve done plenty of times or 1-2 nights in Zurich which although I’ve visited have never mongers in and for some reason have the impression that Globe is the best FKK in Europe so have that on my to do list.

[PaulInZurich]

On the 24th of June the former Club Rouge will open again with the name of Club Medusa under the Aphrodisa chain, and, for what I have understood, as a luxury club, even more luxury than Aphrodisia!!

I wonder if there will be new girls or if there will just be a redistribution of the girls between Amesia, Aphro, Beatrice and Medusa.

[Belbo]

On the 24th of June the former Club Rouge will open again with the name of Club Medusa under the Aphrodisa chain, and, for what I have understood, as a luxury club, even more luxury than Aphrodisia!!

Not clear, but entrance seems free and wellness area are now only in the President room; does somebody have more precise information?

https://www.medusa.ch/

Time will tell if this is the right move, I'll miss the former small and very elegant Sauna Club.

[Sirioja]

This is the psychology of pimping. Same as why some people stay in cults, or why an abused woman stays with her abuser. I'm no expert, but low self esteem, mind games by the pimp, fear of a lack of support from authorities, etc.

I experienced in real life, far from prostitution or Romania, 2 really lovely and pretty women thinking they didn't worth much when hearing daily not pretty, not able to take care of husband, who would want such ice woman? Me, when they made me dream, even it was complicated, when husbands only had this, but not even able to give pleasure and happiness, except child, to wife. Psychologic violence can be harder than on body.