Zurich

[Woorace]

I prefer a gd massage with a Happy Ending, and Akiko provides this quite nicely in Zurich. Very pretty Japanese lady, who provides mutual touch, HJ and Prostrate massage. Website is: https://www.beikiko.com/.

[Sirioja]

This is a relative issue / complaint.

Many girls are used to old timers or kids who come in to cuddle, massage or chat about wives and girls.

Sit on their fat butts.

Hence someone who maintains 29 minutes of penetration (not pounding, or ramming or hurting) just full insertion, can be viewed as trying to get his "full money's worth!

I'm often asked "are you a porn star" after full sessions; and I assure you no girlfriend has ever said this.

Even from Romina, who likes a porn session.

Even when you are sporty for sex, even some girls say: you are a sex machine, you fuck more than 20's guys, now I can 't work after you, needing at least 30 mn break to recover, but as long you are respectful, take care and don't hurt them, most return, some even asking for orgasmus again.

But I agree women in real life have higher sexual potential than brothels WGs.

[Polyamorist]

I agree with you on the overall dynamics: if one girl, maybe one the leader of the pack, start cast discredit to you, no girl in that clique will come with you. This is true everywhere, all the more reasons in a small place like Aphro.

Salaam Signor Belbo.

In Brazil I never had any problems with girl cliques. In Europe, certainly. But I find it sad that guys in Europe take this behavior for granted, and spend their time obsessing over it (ooh I wonder if she still likes me) rather than saying simply and firmly: This behavior should not occur.

I will also say that it is the responsibility of management to ensure this behavior does not occur. The first and most important step is to ensure there is not more than 70% of any one nationality in the club (or 50% in the case of the Germans as they get organized even more quickly than the Romanians).

In Europe the girls I go with are the girls who think for themselves and are not part of any clique. These tend to be individualistic types, and I can tell from their ability to have a good conversation.

[KaveMan]

II) you fuck them too hard for the whole session

This is a relative issue / complaint.

Many girls are used to old timers or kids who come in to cuddle, massage or chat about wives and girls.

Sit on their fat butts.

Hence someone who maintains 29 minutes of penetration (not pounding, or ramming or hurting) just full insertion, can be viewed as trying to get his "full money's worth!

I'm often asked "are you a porn star" after full sessions; and I assure you no girlfriend has ever said this.

Even from Romina, who likes a porn session.

[Belbo]

I've been going to Aphrodisia for 4 years now. You have to understand Romanian women: they are jealous, catty and tribal to the same degree as Latin women. If you - - - - -one off she will never forget it. The girls in Aphro hang out in cliques and if you - - - - - - off one girl in a clique you can forget about going with another girl in that group. It got so bad for me that back in 2017 I would walk into the bar, see 30-40 girls, and not be able to find a single girl I fancied who would go with me. Imagine the embarrassment of approaching a girl in a bar where everyone is watching you and getting shot down. Never a fun experience when you expect that your money will buy you access to sex. Generally girls will give you the cold shoulder if (I) you complain about their service, (II) you fuck them too hard for the whole session, (III) you have hygiene / health issues. I used to go with the same girl for a few months and then change it up when it got stale. The girl who was used to having me as a regular customer (IE. Steady cash flow) would be furious and try to get other girls not to go with me. The good thing is these clubs tend to turnover every 2-3 years so today when I go to Aphro I only recognize maybe 2-3 girls and the rest are new.

I agree with you on the overall dynamics: if one girl, maybe one the leader of the pack, start cast discredit to you, no girl in that clique will come with you. This is true everywhere, all the more reasons in a small place like Aphro.

However, the probability that all the girls gives you a ban, is almost zero; that's because the girls are spilt in several cliques in Aphro, and they do not usually not to talk to each others (you actually perceive a certain tension, if not worse, among them), not to mention the newcomers.

[Member #4629]

Eddie, I have the (very) small suspect that you are pulling my legs.

Thank you for the advice, but I have tried anything in Globe, even approaching the girl in a very assertive way, but the results were the same; I simply do not get along well with the too many arrogant princesses there.

I have to admit I read all the positive reviews on Globe with envy and jealousy ("are we talking about the same girl who patronized me the entire time in the room" ? "Is she the same one who said no to me in such arrogant way?) ; like the Club were a beautiful woman I can not conquer!

But, enough is enough, and after too many negative or weak visits, and I simply come to the conclusions that other Ladies (Aphro of course, but also Rouge and Beatrice and Life where I found true pearls) are more attractive and friendly, so I go to Globe only a second choice and I do not miss it at all!

I was just trying to bring some humor to this tricky thing. With moderate success. What amazes me is that I have no problems in both clubs. And if you treat the girls in the same way in both clubs, you should have no problems at all. And my tip was already meant seriously. Active looking for a conversation is always the best.

Generally girls will give you the cold shoulder if (I) you complain about their service, (II) you fuck them too hard for the whole session, (III) you have hygiene / health issues.

I agree with that. And that applies to all clubs

[Ovechkin08]

I've been going to Aphrodisia for 4 years now. You have to understand Romanian women: they are jealous, catty and tribal to the same degree as Latin women. If you [CodeWord140] one off she will never forget it. The girls in Aphro hang out in cliques and if you [CodeWord140] off one girl in a clique you can forget about going with another girl in that group. It got so bad for me that back in 2017 I would walk into the bar, see 30-40 girls, and not be able to find a single girl I fancied who would go with me. Imagine the embarrassment of approaching a girl in a bar where everyone is watching you and getting shot down. Never a fun experience when you expect that your money will buy you access to sex. Generally girls will give you the cold shoulder if (I) you complain about their service, (II) you fuck them too hard for the whole session, (III) you have hygiene / health issues. I used to go with the same girl for a few months and then change it up when it got stale. The girl who was used to having me as a regular customer (IE. Steady cash flow) would be furious and try to get other girls not to go with me. The good thing is these clubs tend to turnover every 2-3 years so today when I go to Aphro I only recognize maybe 2-3 girls and the rest are new.

[Belbo]

Really? What an unnecessarily childish post. I'm quite surprised actually. I wouldn't have expected that from you.

Come on FJ, don't take the forum too seriously.

[Belbo]

Fijiman and Belbo:

You are my heroes.

Joke, no you are not. But I would like to have your problems, but only for one day. Compare to you two Gentlemans, I am an absolute beginner in terms of punting. And it's certainly naughty if I give you a tip. But I do it; -) And it's a really good tip, because he will work in every club on this planet.

Let yourself grow two eggs and go to the girls and talk to them. You will see, the girls where you thought before they ignore you, will be very friendly and happy to meet a friendly client.

Eddie, I have the (very) small suspect that you are pulling my legs.

Thank you for the advice, but I have tried anything in Globe, even approaching the girl in a very assertive way, but the results were the same; I simply do not get along well with the too many arrogant princesses there.

I have to admit I read all the positive reviews on Globe with envy and jealousy ("are we talking about the same girl who patronized me the entire time in the room" ? "Is she the same one who said no to me in such arrogant way?) ; like the Club were a beautiful woman I can not conquer!

But, enough is enough, and after too many negative or weak visits, and I simply come to the conclusions that other Ladies (Aphro of course, but also Rouge and Beatrice and Life where I found true pearls) are more attractive and friendly, so I go to Globe only a second choice and I do not miss it at all!

[Fijiman]

Fijiman and Belbo:

You are my heroes.

Joke, no you are not. But I would like to have your problems, but only for one day. Compare to you two Gentlemans, I am an absolute beginner in terms of punting. And it's certainly naughty if I give you a tip. But I do it; -) And it's a really good tip, because he will work in every club on this planet.

Let yourself grow two eggs and go to the girls and talk to them. You will see, the girls where you thought before they ignore you, will be very friendly and happy to meet a friendly client.

Really? What an unnecessarily childish post. I'm quite surprised actually. I wouldn't have expected that from you.

[Member #4629]

Fijiman and Belbo:

You are my heroes.

Joke, no you are not. But I would like to have your problems, but only for one day. Compare to you two Gentlemans, I am an absolute beginner in terms of punting. And it's certainly naughty if I give you a tip. But I do it. And it's a really good tip, because he will work in every club on this planet.

Let yourself grow two eggs and go to the girls and talk to them. You will see, the girls where you thought before they ignore you, will be very friendly and happy to meet a friendly client.

[Sirioja]

I really do feel sorry for you guys paying such crazy prices for the mafia treatment at Aphrodisia and other clubs. There seems to be this big masochistic vibe among expats in Switzerland.

I agree Aphro rates are too expensive for looks seen, but when You arrive You feel You are sultan of harem, all girls smiling and staring at you, they seem to want to eat you like cat looking at mouse. They seem welcoming, giving you a drink. My only problem is my eyes, I can't say about sex but most of girls seem friendly. Saw many guys coming just for drink or drug on the bar, not even speaking to girls. Too expensive business seem very slow, no room for most of girls.

[Belbo]

I think I have to just accept that I don't get Aphro. I live in Zurich, and would love to have it as a regular place. But I have very rarely been glad when I've gone there.

But I keep trying.

I don't have this problem anywhere else. Bumsalp / Amesia is part of the same chain, and I don't have this problem there. So weird.

My 2 cents.
FJ.

I think very few people can understand more than I do, how you feel FJ; I could have written the same post, of course just changing the name from Aphro to Globe!

I of course tried to figure out why a person has problem only with the girls of a specific club; one reasons, already mentioned by others, may be that you (and me as well in Globe) have gained a bad fame (for whatever is the very probably not deserved reason) among girls and they have decided to boycott you. Or they were afraid you could complain with the management if they do not perform (this is not my case, never complained with any Club about a girl, even if a few of them went so far that they would have deserved it): who knows?

Even if in Aphro and everywhere the competition and rivalry among girls is ferocious and they are split in groups, the female mafia mentality makes them gang up against any customer, who may jeopardize their own lucrative job; do not forget that the girls talk most of the time about customers. And, If one girls was kicked out because of a complaint, the relevant customer is not warmly welcomed, to say an euphemism.

On the first visit the first girl I see was so stiff, and resistant in the room that after 2 minutes I just got dressed and went downstairs. I complained, but didn't ask for a refund. To their credit they looked into it and then gave me a full refund. I then had a couple of average forgettable 45 minutes sessions.

Same thing happened to me recently; but I did not complain, going through a catastrophic session. Not because I was afraid of being boycotted, but because I am just unable to do that. Did you have a proper conversation beforehand or did you perceive something wrong while talking to the girl?

On the second visit, the lineup was fantastic. I'm very picky and there were a solid 8 girls that I wanted to session with. I grabbed the first one (Cindy) and went to the room. No kissing, so I give up. She then tries to start with CBJ. I put an end to that and she shrugs, and proceeds with an uninspired BBBJ. She finds what I like and takes me towards completion at the 15 minute mark. I usually put a stop to that because I don't want to finish so early in a session, but I let her finish me. Mistake. She now clearly thinks her work is done, and offers me a shower. I laugh at her, and grab some wet wipes. She shrugs and leaves for her own shower. Comes back 15 minutes later, and then offers an admittedly decent massage to finish up our time..

Very strange, did the first two girl refuse even to talk to you and they dismiss you in 2 seconds?

That would be very impolite, complete lack of respect and the club should not allow the girls to do that; again, the girls have the full right to say no, but I am more and more convinced that most of them do not know how to say a NO, which poisons the atmosphere.

Then, a girl you know from another club; did she leave the main room, as she was afraid you could approach her and did not want to turn you down? Even stranger.

As a local, I've always presumed that I have a stellar reputation in the clubs and that I'm a preferred client. Maybe not.

I eventually shrug and leave, taking the 2500 chf in my pocket with me. (I was only intending to spend 1k if it, but even so, I was willing to be convinced). They just dont seem interested in doing sessions there.

As I leave, I see several of the girls I was interested in still sitting listlessly in the bar having gone on for zero sessions in the 2. 5 hours since I arrived. I simply do not understand this club. I don't have this problem anywhere else. Bumsalp / Amesia is part of the same chain, and I don't have this problem there. So weird.

My 2 cents.
FJ.

I have to admit I had some time the same feeling in Aphro; it happened to me to leave without a session because the girls seamed more interesting in chatting among themselves and I was totally unable to draw the attention of the ones I liked. And that despite I am a regular there with a good reputation.

Just to be clear. The time I complained was different from when I was ignored. About one month earlier.

And sure, the ladies are welcome to blackball me forever and / or ignore me as they choose. But that simply means I will go elsewhere. Their loss.

Ignoring bad customers is fair enough. Ignoring good customers is bad for the club, it's staff and the customers themselves..

I do not believe you need my advice but, if I were you, I would do with Aphro what I have done with Globe; spend your money somewhere else! I do not know a better way to have a club become more customer oriented.

[Polyamorist]

I really do feel sorry for you guys paying such crazy prices for the mafia treatment at Aphrodisia and other clubs. There seems to be this big masochistic vibe among expats in Switzerland.

[Sirioja]

Girls seem friendly, are very smiling and look welcoming at Aphro, I can't say in room because no experience. Only problem for me, for such expensive rate = minimum 260 € for only 30 mn, is they are not pretty enough to worth such rate. I find prettier with more fresh look for 80 or 100 to enjoy for 1 hour in Germany. My subjective tastes of course. I was also used to prettier girls at Globe: Kate, Megan, Trisha.