Zurich

[Jmioffe]

Re: Fancy Place.
It was actually a very sleek place; it was a mini-loft / studio with floor to ceiling glass windows.

Dude, I'm like your retarded twin -- that could describe my place too. Now I just got to find the job with a German bank and the 18-year-old British stripper.

[Belbo]

I know this customer and also the Girl (and her behavior in the Club).

He was at the club at least 100 times a year. She much less. But the point is, he has many colleagues. Most are hanging out now in the Bumsalp with him.

Yes, simple math cash flow.

Hi Eddie,

I have read this story as well and I had the impressions the reasons of the quarrel were kindergarten stuff.

Can you share with us the name of the girl? Just to make sure I know whom I have to deal with.

[Excess]

On Virgin it's actually called "Upper Class" not first.


I always lived way under my means; still fly coach.

I do splurge on pussy and collector cars.

Another man who follows the mantra - "I do splurge on pussy and collector cars". The rest of my fortune I just waste.

[KaveMan]

Ha ha, thanks. That all sounds quite reasonable. In fact, my rent is more than double yours. Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

I still don't think I'm wealthy enough to engage in car collecting though.

Sounds like you managed the 18-year-old well. That's something I'd like to try. For $1250 a month, I'm guessing you weren't living in a fancy place though, she was ok with that?

Re: Fancy Place.

That was the rent from 1996-2005; today it's $4000.

It was actually a very sleek place; it was a mini-loft / studio with floor to ceiling glass windows. The SoHo neighborhood was just.

Starting to take off and this was literally on the border line (SOuth of Houston st). Always get the cheapest place in the most expensive neighborhood! (Often it's less than OK place in avg neighborhood).

Re: car collecting.

You have to buy flagship sports cars when they are at bottom of depreciation (10-15 yrs old). For less than $10 K you could own cars that sold $75 K new.

-late 90's BMW 850 CI.

-late 90's M-be SL.

-mid 00's Jag are type.

-mid 90's Aston's.

-Lotus espirit.

-80's Audi Quattro coupe.

-80's Porsche 928.

Even late 90's 911 Turbo can be had for $45 K if high roller.

My 60's Mercedes SL I bought at 21 using a credit card cash advance in '90 and got parts from junk yards. Today it's $150 K.

I refused to make car payments on old lady Toyota's when I could drive like 007!

[Jmioffe]

On Virgin it's actually called "Upper Class" not first.

I booked Coach and she actually missed the flight. She called me from the Virgin counter and told me to buy her another ticket.

This was when I learned how to handle young gals. I calmly told her she needed to figure it out; stay at a friends overnight until the next flight and get the Virgin staff to courtesy re-book.

She was at JFK 12 hours later.

Re: High rolling.

-Swissotel can be had for $150/ nt; cheaper than holiday inn.

-Entrees at restaurants I list in my reports are $25-36; I drink Swiss beer $5.

-Starbucks breakfast is $11; rolls at Coop supermarket 50 cents.

-Rent at my NYC / SoHo place was $1250 (stayed 9 yrs)!

The Virgin ticket divided by 14 bangs was peanuts.

I always lived way under my means; still fly coach.

I do splurge on pussy and collector cars.

Ha ha, thanks. That all sounds quite reasonable. In fact, my rent is more than double yours. Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

I still don't think I'm wealthy enough to engage in car collecting though.

Sounds like you managed the 18-year-old well. That's something I'd like to try. For $1250 a month, I'm guessing you weren't living in a fancy place though, she was ok with that?

[PaulInZurich]

I know this customer and also the Girl (and her behavior in the Club).

He was at the club at least 100 times a year. She much less. But the point is, he has many colleagues. Most are hanging out now in the Bumsalp with him.

Yes, simple math cash flow.

I don't get it, based on what you say here, it's not cash flow that was the deciding factor. Which is kind of the point I was making, cash flow is not always the deciding factor.

The girl, yes, sometimes she's hard to miss.

[KingOfTheKill]

She should also try her luck in Hamburg- if she is pretty and gives a good level of service she can make good money in Atmos, Harmony and Babylon. Also Aphrodisia and Babylon (Vienna) are options.

How much are earning the girls in Switzerland?

Minimal wage on the Prostitution in Germany is between 3/5 k a month so maybe it will be 10-15 easily in a month in Swiss because the standard is higher?

She was around the pufs in Germany and not earning a lot, maybe bad luck. Shit happens.

Thanks for your reply!

KotK,

I think you should tell your Sarah there is no simple answer to her question. So much depends on her. And on luck.

I knew a girl in a similar situation who passed the selection interviews at Globe and in one visit (3 weeks?) made enough money to sort out her bad financial situation. But so much of this comes down to right place, right time, right person and right clients.

Can't help with other questions.

Sorry, D.

I don't think she will be any good for FKK's to be honest. I think something on Private with her advertisements will be better. In Clubs like Globe, Artemis etc. Is very big possibility to make a lot of money, yes. There is one "but". More of the girls are taking drugs and that's how they earn their money. Other girls do 75% of the extras for free to keep the clients for themselves, and I know even a girl in Artemis who makes everything for 100€ even she made me blowjob without condom before 1 month totally free even the change for the law so. It really depends and of course- Luck and never giving up.

Thanks for your reply!

I don't know how looks and behave your Sara to make so low business at Artemis, when some of my regulars make about 1000 per day, and even in a small NRW club.

If she wants to try Globe, she has to have good care for make up, not too heavy, for hair, for shaving and for nails, and not fat belly. If she has charm and GFE behavior, she should get more business than her Artemis business. She should have to start in reserve team but good girls don t stay for long time in reserve team. If it doesn't work for Globe, she can try small brother, Westside Frauenfeld, where rate is about 85 per 30 mn.

Hi, thanks for the fast response!

To be honest I think it will be better to live and work on a private Address with your own advertisements.

You give rent maybe 500/1000 CHF and you add your website advertisements and everything you earn is for you.

Not sure how much are the girls there earning but it will be better than Germany for sure.

She was in 4 FKK's and a lot of pufs. Dissapointed as fuck.

I will try to find the best advertisement sites for the Swiss and give them to her, I found an website where people are renting apartments or searching for girls for the Swiss even making their Papers etc, so I will help her with that what I can.

She hopes she can do 10/15 k x 3 months and go back to her country buy a house and open a little store.

I wish her the best as well, I call her on her cheap phone once a day and asking her if she needs some money, maybe a new phone or something and she refuses all the time so that's keeping me being sure that she isn't for the money.

I hope she has better luck to try in the Swiss, I spoke with 1 girl that I know (Karina in FKK Palmas Nuremberg) she was in the 2017 winter in Zürich and she earned for herself 50 k€ . I don't think she's lying because after Swiss she bought a new E class from the Store directly and for sure not on monthly payment because here girls work with Gewerbe and can't take cars or expensive stuff on Leasing. :

But luck is luck so.

[KaveMan]

High roller! I can only pretend to do what you do, I can't make it a lifestyle. Did you fly her first class, or was coach good enough?

True, but these guys are the peers of the WGs. They're their boyfriends and future husbands. I wonder how this affects the WGs.

On Virgin it's actually called "Upper Class" not first.

I booked Coach and she actually missed the flight. She called me from the Virgin counter and told me to buy her another ticket.

This was when I learned how to handle young gals. I calmly told her she needed to figure it out; stay at a friends overnight until the next flight and get the Virgin staff to courtesy re-book.

She was at JFK 12 hours later.

Re: High rolling.

-Swissotel can be had for $150/ nt; cheaper than holiday inn.

-Entrees at restaurants I list in my reports are $25-36; I drink Swiss beer $5.

-Starbucks breakfast is $11; rolls at Coop supermarket 50 cents.

-Rent at my NYC / SoHo place was $1250 (stayed 9 yrs)!

The Virgin ticket divided by 14 bangs was peanuts.

I always lived way under my means; still fly coach.

I do splurge on pussy and collector cars.

[Jmioffe]

RE: 3 day or weekend trips.
Check in to Swissotel and hit their 3 saunas
Huge dinner in Zurich city
getting a dance for a 18 yr old stripper and giving my card from a German Bank, and she called my office the next day. Banged her at my hotel; then flew her to NYC / SoHo to stay for a week, all for free.

High roller! I can only pretend to do what you do, I can't make it a lifestyle. Did you fly her first class, or was coach good enough?

Today's young Males are more interested in "being popular on their social media circle" than getting their dick in a hot pussy. They literally would rather post IG pics of $5 K "bottle service" at a club or shopping bags of their new $1 K sneakers / Nike's than being a stud with 20's Gals. They actually have less sex than Men in 30's-40's.

True, but these guys are the peers of the WGs. They're their boyfriends and future husbands. I wonder how this affects the WGs.

[Member #4629]

This is simple math cash flow:

He pays the club 52 days a year.

She pays the club 365 days a year (likely 3 x-10 x his payment).

I know this customer and also the Girl (and her behavior in the Club).

He was at the club at least 100 times a year. She much less. But the point is, he has many colleagues. Most are hanging out now in the Bumsalp with him.

Yes, simple math cash flow.

[Sirioja]

Beatriz is ex Aca Velbert. Had a 40 30 mn room with her, but never repeated, when I had 35/40 1 h30 rooms with Megan who needs to feel safe and to trust.

We don't have same eyes, Globe is far higher from GT, Samya, Oase, Sharks for looks and level in bed, for my weekly visits.

40 € at Aca Velbert for 30 mn with long black hair Beatriz who is a nice girl. Megan is for sweet soft sex.

I found a really good casting on April at Globe when GT or Samya are average at the moment for looks, for my eyes.

[PaulInZurich]

She should also try her luck in Hamburg- if she is pretty and gives a good level of service she can make good money in Atmos, Harmony and Babylon. Also Aphrodisia and Babylon (Vienna) are options.

Girls who provide great service make money everywhere. Looks get a girl the initial room, looks and great service get a girl the repeat clients.

[PaulInZurich]

Thanks. So this means an hour in the VIP room is a minimum of 280 (for the girl) + 100 for the room = 380 CHF? Am I right.

Correct. Same price for Imperatore and Arabica, but Imperatore is much better room. Both rooms are on the first floor, entrance from the restaurant.

[KaveMan]

Sorry math typo; 1985.

I'm not great at math; that German bank went under too. LOL.

[KaveMan]

RE: 3 day or weekend trips.

My strategy is always 3 square, high quality meals; lots of sleep; saunas and swims and water: drinking and flushing nostrils.

I usually arrive Wed 3 pm after 11 hours from LA. Check in to Swissotel and hit their 3 saunas: Wet with pine mist; dry and then hot tub and finally swim. Straight to Globe for full dinner and two sessions.

Next morning after 8-12 hours sleep; Starbucks egg sandwich OR hotel brunch and over to Globe. Session; full lunch; lots water fruits, etc. Huge dinner in Zurich city; usually their Swiss Style Strongoff (Zeughaller) or Schnitzel and over to Aphro.

I see a lot of guys economizing / fast food. Key is high protein, high calorie, quality nutritious Meals and fresh juices keep all plumbing working.

Make sure to sauna, swim, or exercise for 15-30 min each day. Also, I carry a saline spray and irrigate by nostrils like 3 x a day. Between the plane, the smoke in Globe and girls having little colds from kissing; it flushes all the flu away.

Re: "Little in USA making sense".

Very true.

Today's young Males are more interested in "being popular on their social media.

Circle" than getting their dick in a hot pussy. They literally would rather post IG pics of $5 K "bottle service" at a club or shopping bags of their new $1 K sneakers / Nike's than being a stud with 20's Gals. They actually have less sex than Men in 30's-40's.

As such, Strip Clubs have declined to almost like old mans betting parlors. The golden age of strip clubs from 1990's like NYC Scores, London Pure Platinum, Dallas Ricks, Vegas Pink Rhino are over. I will never forget going to Pure Platinum in 2003 and getting a dance for a 18 yr old stripper and giving my card from a German Bank, and she called my office the next day. Banged her at my hotel; then flew her to NYC / SoHo to stay for a week, all for free. When I booked her Virgin Atlantic ticket the agent asked her date of birth and laughed when I said 1986.