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06-02-15 01:10 #1776
Posts: 4614 Day Zurich report: Mixed results. Happy ending
I did a 4 day Zurich (Wed-Sat: May 13-16) trip that had mixed results, with luckily a happy ending.
This trip was sort of a comedy of errors; some in my control (hotel, jet lag, $) and some not (line-up, weather, holidays).
Some caveats: with the risk of sounding schizophrenic; I may have to retract some of my unilateral assertions (both positive & negative) from my lengthy report on my last trip in Nov '14. This is more a result of learning experiences and less to bash / push up any venue.
First some tips:
-Holidays: Swiss / Zurich has too many; I landed on 30 or 40 days after Easter (Epiphany? This is a non-holiday in most of universe; but NATIONAL holiday in Swiss. It was Thursday, so many took a 3 day weekend and city was deserted and line-up at all clubs was sparse. Research EVERY known Swiss holiday and don't go then!
-Weather: Was rainy two days: again negative impact at clubs / line up.
-Hotel: splurge on better ones. I did the Sorrell Seidenhoff on Bahnhoffstrs. (very noisy till 3 am with drunken pre-holiday punters; mickey mouse air-conditioners). Switched to Sheraton Neu Schloss; more expensive but worth it.
-Jet-Lag: Hotel / trying to catch free breakfast buffet at 10 am hurt my jet lag for 2 days and damper on half of trip. Slept off jet lag last time sleeping till 1 pm at silent rooms at Swissotel and Best Western for $75 less!
Day 1:
So. Landed Wed and had late dinner at Zeughaller and headed over to Club Aphrodisia at 9 pm.
-Line-up was terrible.
-The two stunners (Mara / Andrea) were totally stand-offish; came in for 2-3 mins and went upstairs with bottles. They clearly have established themselves as the top 1% of girls and have no time for other customers.
-The management has clearly relaxed the standards; there was even one gal who was clearly in late 30's if not 40.
-Conclusion: 1-2 stunners can make-break your impression of a club; especially if you bang them back-to-back on same night; then can't bang them again next time!
Day 2:
-Arrived at Globe at 12:15 pm.
-Line-up was better than Aphro; a number of petite early 20's students types; one blonde.
-Saw Howie's Macy recommendation; can see allure, not for me.
-Waited until 2 pm to see if any stunners.
-Picked a petite blonde and had a nice session.
-Had Lunch (burger) not bad.
-Left around 7 pm; overall, not a great experience.
Had dinner a Cafe Lipp (recommend, off Bahnhoffstr).
-Headed to Club Aphro at 10 pm.
-Same terrible line up; finally broke down and picked a 7/8; credit card declined / fraud alert.
-Was somewhat relieved as paying CHF280 for 7/8 was not appetizing.
Day 3:
-Jet-lag; bad night sleep, rain.
-Trained it over to Club Boombastic. AVOID; total waste.
-Got to Globe at 2:30 pm.
-Saw a 22 German Blonde, 9; who was to be booked from 2-6 pm by two 18 yr old kids.
-Had Lunch (Filet Mignon; quite good in Pepper sauce).
-Picked a Slim Blond, 24,8; session was average: can't touch pussy; stiff legs; didn't like heat / sweat.
-Left early; check Club Life on way back (quick bus ride from Dubendorf Station) not worth it.
-Late dinner; back to Aphro; terrible again.
-Picked another 7/8; in room tells me she's on menstrual period; I ask for immediate refund and leave.
Day 4:
-Sunny; rested up.
-Back at Globe by 2 bang a super hot Blonde 9 within 5 minutes of walking in; saved the whole trip.
-Super tight pussy; perfect body; drilled her deep & hard no mercy.
-Back out, found the 22 yr old German; she was now bull shitting again about another appointment (while wandering floors aimlessly); told her Ciao!
Nice dinner at Zeughaller again; stopped in Aphro on way back to hotel; 6 girls; left after free beer.
Risks:
Line-up risk is a MAJOR factor in ALL these clubs.
I spent 4 days on the ground in sun / rain / wind night / day; there is some serious luck of the draw.
1-3 girls can really make or break your trip.
Recommendation:
Waiting around for anything greater than 45 minutes is a waste of time and recipe for aggravation.
If you arrive and line-up is OK / Avg. Pick the best acceptable features (eg, skinny, young, big tits) and settle on having two girls per outing.
Most of us on these trips have sunk costs and best to spread out / maximize benefits if your trip hits bumps.
Conclusion:
For me Globe / Aphro is not worth coming to 3 x per year; line ups seem stagnant and line-up risk can kill a $2-3 K trip.
I can frankly bang hotter chicks from online dating sites / apps here in USA (NYC / Hollywood). God Bless America!
Globe / Aphro are what they are; for a certain demographic they are the only option to bang slim, attractive, young women.
For most single bachelors, its a once every eighteen months excursion; you will definitely experience the time of your life sometimes; just like in real world!
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06-02-15 00:04 #1775
Posts: 767Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo [View Original Post]
1) A consistently high quality line-up with plenty of options.
2) A consistently outstanding level of service from genuinely eager-to-please ladies.
3) A complete lack of sharkiness / upselling / time-cheating.
4) The enjoyment of public sex, i.e. sessions within the club without needing to go into a room.
Others may not experience any or all of this when they visit, but why that is of no concern to me.
Also, although I have never have had cause to complain, at Globe I'd feel confident of a fair hearing. Don't get that feeling at many of the German FKKs.
The German clubs I've visited (Palace-FRA, Oase, World, Sharks, Artemis, GT-NRW) may deliver on some of these things on some visits, but never consistently on all four points. Point 3 disqualifies some of them every visit (Palace, Artemis), and Point 4 is pretty much unique to Globe (except for kinos, or some smaller NRW clubs I believe).
So, I don't make a choice between Globe and German clubs, as I don't rate them as appealing alternatives (unless I happen to be in their neighbourhood, which is rare for me).
Frankly, I'm at the point in my 30+ year mongering life that anything else would bore me. And, I'm willing to pay the Zurich prices as a result.
If I find something better, then I'll embrace that, but in the meantime I'll enjoy Globe and put up with its short-comings (too hot / too smokey / music often too loud).
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06-01-15 23:15 #1774
Posts: 6416Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo [View Original Post]
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06-01-15 21:50 #1773
Posts: 86Globe Visit. Today
Back for the 3rd time and first of 2015, in Zurich for just 1 day.
I caught the tram and then train vs my previous trips which were by taxi and were very expensive.
You never know which ladies are there on the day so a little disappointed when I saw the tagesplan as wanted to see Nichole and Becca specifically.
Arrived at 3:30 pm and a solid line up of about 30 ladies with fewer stunners than my previous visits, for me stunners are 8. 5+/10, I like the slim brunette look which Globe is normally strong in.
I ended up having 2 sessions with Leila and 1 with a new girl Kati.
I saw Leila on a previous visit and she is hotter than ever, the great thing is she did anal with me in both sessions which she declined to do when I saw her previously.
She was in the mood so my lucky day, it ain't cheap but for me she is one of the hottest in the total line up so more than happy to pay.
Kati is new and a really good looking blonde, slightly bigger (size 8) than my normal choices but was really good, would have repeated with her but the second session with Leila finished me off for the night.
Great meal in between sessions and while you do pay for it the quality is really good so no issue for me.
Overall a good visit and Globe continues to be my go to club in Zurich.
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06-01-15 19:20 #1772
Posts: 737On more note on service in Switzerland
I was in Amsterdam all weekend to meet a friend. It is only 50 for suck and fuck, but since I get much better service in Switzerland for 150 or 105, I decided not to fuck at all all weekend in Amsterdam, Friday night to Sunday night. Switzerland has spoiled me and I won't pay for Amsterdam anymore and there were many hot girls around in the windows.
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06-01-15 19:17 #1771
Posts: 737Zurich vs other places
Okay,
I felt like writing something but I wanted to hear the others first. I have mongered in 9 countries but all in Europe. First of all Switzerland is not cheap, that is why I occasionally go to Germany to monger. But is there a trade off, certainly, in terms of looks, lineup and service, Switzerland wins hands down.
I usually get good service at places like Aca and Samya, I have had only one girl give me unsatisfactory service there, but in Switzerland the service is way better. I don't even think or worry about how the girl will be in the Globe, Club History, FKK Swiss, Bumalps and the like. I just choose on looks. What Eric Cartman experienced at the globe, I never ever have, I have always had a good time there.
Now unlike Brazil you will find slender gazelles, but since they are mostly Romanian they won't be blond. I think Romanian girls are way better looking than Brazilians but this is a matter of taste, they are not blond. And about looks, I have started to lose my once, oh wow I am in heaven, feeling in German FKKs, since the lineup in Switzerland is usually way better.
The Globe beats Artemis, Golden Time. Vienna hands down. I think Cartman is used to Brazilian girls and how to interact with them. I have Romanian girls figured out well, and I usually have a really pleasant conversation and know how to get the most of them, IMHO, so maybe he isn't used to the style and nature of these girls. About the girl in the globe charging for the finger, I have always had this for free when I was into it in the Czech Republic, a much harder place to get good service. I don't think Eric gave it his all, since he didn't feel the same vibes he feels in Brazil.
I will say one thing, if any place on Earth has Switzerland beaten though, it is Brazil. I love ass and Brazil could be an ass lovers paradise.
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06-01-15 17:12 #1770
Posts: 144Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
Regarding beauty I am cautious about 10's. In my life so far I have maybe seen 20 women in the whole world I would rate as a beautiful 10. One of them was a WG in Medellin. So for me there is no place at all full of 10's. But there can be some really good looking girls be found in clubs like 4 x4 or Club Globe. I remember a WG in Club Globe looking like young Catherine Deneuve. You won't find such a girl in Rio. Zurich is a good destination to find really good looking girls. Even compared to Rio.
But it is not easy. First of all they are not always working (they have holidays) and there are many guys who want them too and they have money. I remember seeing at the parking lot of Club Globe 3 Ferraris at one time. I also remember the girl who looked like Catherine Deneuve telling me that I. E. Wednesdays she has two fixed customers. One for a few hours in the afternoon and one the rest of the evening.
So normally even if you stayed many hours at Club Globe you probably wouldn't see this girl. So if someone just comes one or two times to a Club in Zurich and thinks he has seen the girls there he probably has not seen the best girls.
I have visited some clubs in Zurich for a few times so I think I do know what I can expect and what I have to do to fulfill my expectations. And regarding beauty Zurich is a good destination (not the best) but if you really want to get the most / the best ones you have to spend time.
Regarding service I have made experiences with WGs who don't like to do this or that (I. E. Kissing) but mostly after you go to the room. Even in Brazil. Not so in Zurich. And french kissing is standard. I really like that and am willing to pay for this. So you can't compare a WG in Zurich against a Brazileira full of passion but generally the service is high. If she goes to the room with you she will at least deliver mediocre but most likely good service (pussy fingering is not standard though).
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My rating is different. And one thing is that you can expect from every girl a good service. I remember a girl in Bukarest (the capital of Romania) with whom I agreed for 1 hour, and then after I came she left telling me its only 1 pop. I experienced this kind of shit everywhere except in good clubs like Club Globe and this is one reason I like it (and so cost or value is relative if I pay 100 per hour but 2 out of 3 girls try some shit on me its no good value. If its 250 CHF per hour with a friendly professional girl with no shit its good value for me). Its not full of 10's but there are some really good looking ones and I don't have to worry whether she gives good service. Sometimes a girl even will shower together with me after I paid her for a session.
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06-01-15 13:09 #1769
Posts: 15Still
You guys are funny. Look. What's really of value is finding good places to fuck girls in places you had to go for work. Whats not of value paying a plane ticket and hotel to go to a place to then find girls to fuck because then you have other expenses which you can't exclude from the total costs.
I went and the girls were hot and the one I picked was really fun. Sorry that annoys people who want to spend their time promoting one place over another.
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06-01-15 12:19 #1768
Posts: 890Cane nails it
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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05-30-15 22:16 #1767
Posts: 623Originally Posted by Eddinger [View Original Post]
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05-30-15 18:13 #1766
Posts: 6416Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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05-30-15 12:53 #1765
Posts: 6416Cheap v. Value
Originally Posted by Eddinger [View Original Post]
Now, some guys can never be convinced otherwise. Going on and on about how the women look so much better at the clubs in Switzerland and how their performance level is so much higher. If they want to believe that and spend twice the money, then great that's on them. Knock yourselves out! But for those of us who don't "buy it" and who know from direct experience that said claims simply aren't true, we would only be helping to perpetuate a disservice upon those guys who haven't been to Switzerland, and who might be tempted to "bite" and plan a trip based on what the majority of knowledgeable, seasoned mongers take to be untruths. I don't mean untruths as in flat out lies. I'm talking about flawed perceptions and conclusions drawn after ignoring the cold, hard facts of the matter. Facts to be found in plain view by any level-headed monger sizing up the situation.
Every now and then, we need reports like Cartman's to help set the record straight about Switzerland and re-balance the discussion. So, for you guys who have never been to Switzerland? You can be "pardoned" for going once and checking it out for yourself. Indeed, if you are a true international monger warrior then this is precisely what you must do! Just remember, we told you so! And if you are one of the ones who, after the first time, you keep going and going and returning to Switzerland? Well then, you're free to blow your hard-earned money as you please! Carry on! And see you in Frankfurt or Madrid!
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05-29-15 16:57 #1764
Posts: 15Zurich report: aphrodesia
Hi.
First time to Zurich. Only had time for one trip and since I was downtown and it was a holiday Monday I went to Aphrodesia. I'm familiar with all the complaints but I liked it. The bar was nice and I had 2 drinks while looking at a lineup of about 15 stunning girls. I picked the one I liked best: Penelope http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/erotik-...m_Recordset1=9.
There's no picture of her but she was tall, gorgeous face, nice fake tits and perfect body and ass. Really amazing ass. We went up to room and I showered and then she showered then we started fucking around. First just me sitting on the bar stool and deep tongue kissing while I really held onto her ass and then she turned around and kinda dry fucked my dick between her ass while I palmed her tits and we talked a bit. Then she went down for a really deep blow job and sucked hard. We went to the bed and I ate her pussy and ass a bit and had three fingers inside and then we spun around and did some 69 and then tit fucking and then I had her lay her head of the bed while I stood up and fucked the hell out of her face she was really awesome. We then fucked in a lot of other positions with a rubber, went back to BBBJ and tit fucking,. She told me I have 10 minutes left and I asked if she would swallow. She said that's extra, so I asked her to get another rubber and I fucked her until I filled the bag. She was really fun. Best ride I've had in a while. The price was not cheap, but there were no regrets and she was a 10 in looks and a 8 or 9 in performance. She's about the same price its true for girls in the US when they tour, but also, cheaper than most of her looks and skills. (a lot of big city girls that look this good and fuck this well are 400-500 $ in price, not 325 $US, so. Not bad deal, just not a great deal).
Its true you get cheaper girls in poor countries like in south america, but that's just how the world works. So no one should be surprised that a hot girl who fucks is going to cost more in Switzerland than in Argentina, for example.
Anyhow. I had a great time and would go back anytime I'm in Zurich.
Which is really just to say that for everyone complaining that Zurich isn't like south America. Duh. Why would anyone think that one of the financial and banking capitals of the world is going to be a place to go for cheap sex with hot girls. Its going to be a place you go for not cheap sex but with knockouts. And it is.
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05-26-15 06:20 #1763
Posts: 86Specific Girl in Globe
I have not managed to spend time with a specific girl at Globe and wanted to know if anybody knows her name.
She is best described as having a bit of an aloof type attitude, the 2 times I have seen her she went with regulars on long bookings.
She has long dark hair with some highlights and while not large she has a slightly bigger build than the majority, from what I can recall she has tattoos of wings on her back.
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05-26-15 00:41 #1762
Posts: 6416Thank You!
Originally Posted by EricCartman [View Original Post]
By the way, that story about what the Moldovan did pissed me off! She rooked you! Never, ever let these tutes get over and take advantage of you like that man! I wouldn't have paid her thieving, under performing ass 100 francs extra and let's just take it to the front desk then! They count on the monger just caving. Fuck that! I'm tired of reading about the scams of these tutes and the posts of mongers who are quick to defend crooked tute behaviors no matter what!