Zurich

[Sirioja]

https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscr...htclub/1879769

Let's hope it will not spread any further!

As long R0 is under control, even corruption seem working well in Switzerland, money buying a lot.

[Member #4658]

https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscr...htclub/1879769
Let's hope it will not spread any further!

A more local source: https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/erster-...h-874074023168.

I lived in Switzerland many years. For the life of me, I am really surprised they have allowed sex clubs, especially big ones all over the country to open. As most of the rest of P4P clubs are still closed, the CH venues will attract (and concentrate) even more players. You just have to have a little understanding of how Covid-19 spreads, the estimates of asymptomatic carriers, etc. To wonder how long this can possibly be allowed to go on. It really is Russian Roulette and as others have pointed out, it will be much harder to trace given all the movement, travel, dubious IDs etc. As much as we all miss the scene, it is pretty crazy to do this now. This is not like being able to control HIV with condoms, etc. The ease of transmission, the sheer numbers of people and places, puts this in a completely different risk situation. I urge all mongers to think hard about where we are, having just beaten things back to 80% normal at staggering cost, if crossing the line makes any sense right now. Sure you may get lucky, and it may take a few weeks til we know, but what is going on (with far less contact) in the USA right now should make us very worried.

[Maxime]

https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscr...htclub/1879769

Let's hope it will not spread any further!

[Sirioja]

When I went to expensive Switzerland to follow woman type Kate and her elegance, at Globe, but I now much prefer higher class Amesia when Globe fell for chic, now land of plastic. Of course, Switzerland Wallis was my school to ski every Easter from 8 to 18 yo and still going after with now Verbier Mont Gelé on Verbier side and Mont Fort on Bec des Rosses side for my free ride extreme final, even La Grave La Meije may be now more dangerous because with no more lift, now alone on Girose glacier among crevaces versus between rocks in Verbier, even dark 2020, so frustrating with no free ride. 2 visits to Amesia on this week end, no visit at Globe on my 2 week ends in Switzerland and not planned for next. News for Amesia, entry is free now like at brother Aphrodisia, 50 if You want wellness, but I think no free alcohol, but I could get my 3 different soft drinks for free. Staff is just great welcoming and polite and a really entertaining staff new small girl, she is really funny. I missed good foods before, better than at Globe except Sunday brunch. They should have free entry to judge casting, 50 for only free eating like at Zeus or Freubad, 50 for only wellness, 90 for eating and wellness. Good casting seen with beauties looking like women, not porn plastic dolls. I could go with at least 5 girls and a Russian on tagesplan didn t work on Saturday. Had 2 really good rooms with 2 beauties, not rushing, twice over time, for 340 on Friday, first one, angel face and so fresh became so passionate, for German rate, I would have kept her for 2 hours, kissing for 1 hour, from how she changed after DATY result. New rates are 170/30 , 250/45, 340/60, and very flexible about time. Amesia have more interesting, more woman type and with prettier faces girls than Globe and even Aphrodisia on my visits, but they make a big mistake increasing girls rate like this when less clients, even I know they are brother with Aphrodisia but we know why guys go to Aphrodisia where girls are not the main attraction. Result of this big mistake is even pretty girls don t make business, waiting whole day, and new fresh beauties won't stay for no business. When Globe is still number 1 in Switzerland even falling for quality, so, empty from clients Amesia can't be more expensive, where second is more expensive than first? 130/30, 190/45, 260/60, would be better rates, lower than at Globe, should give better business for girls and keep beauties at Amesia when they will leave with no business like on this week end. Also, women know when they give good foods to men, then men love them, we agreed with all guys met, we miss restaurant, give us free foods for 50 and we will have more desire for girls who will get better business and beauties will come and attract clients to discover or come more often. After my good Friday with my eyes smiling and 2 enjoyable rooms, but eating only a sandwich sold 10 from snack, OK I didn't sleep at night but I m used to, but not eating, 1 sandwich on Friday was enough, I preferred past foods, so no desire on Saturday, also disappointed Russian on tagesplan was not working, angel face seemed to change behavior after she saw me with wow on Friday night who was really great for social time, but less wow look on Saturday. I would have been happy to eat good with guys met.

My advice from a guy who really like the chic atmosphere and would really like beauties to stay and some new to come, make restaurant back for 50 , most guys will pay at least 50 and some 90 like before with wellness, but girls can t be more expensive than at number 1 Globe, even different type of girls, more interesting for me. 130/30 , 190/45 , 260/60 should give much better business to girls and to club, with more clients, when some don t want to go, having to write name and phone to enter, no Asians, no US, less foreigners, Swiss don t make enough business, so this is really time to attract clients, good point being Globe is not anymore high level, but there are also many girls at Olymp or Freubad, not only at Globe. I really wish Amesia will keep and attract beauties because I like the club and even more in Winter, watching ski whole day, but my eyes need beauties who look like women.

From my experiences since months, Amesia girls don t seem to hunt extra and very flexible for time. I think they are just happy when they can get business in empty Amesia with so slow business. Management have to study competitors market when they have the best potential to get more clients, just have to attract them, guys are stronger after eating.

[PaulInZurich]

Hello Gents. I am excited to get back to the clubs since they have been reopening. I had a great time at Amesia earlier, and I want to return. When I was there before, I prepaid for my time, and was given services that would be extras at other clubs, for no extra charge (CIM, rimming). I did stay for a long time with more than one girl, so I don't know if it is normal not to charge extra, or if the girls were willing to throw in these services in this case because I was spending and they wanted me to extend time (which worked!

Is this normal at Amesia, that services are all included in the time? If not, is there a going rate for extras like rimming, CIM, lesbian sex, and anal? And if you have already prepaid for time, then what is the procedure for extras. Do you have to leave the room in the middle of the session to pay for them?

To get free CIM, rimming, anal, you must have stayed a long time in the room. Another situation where an extra might be thrown in by the girl is with a regular client, when she hopes for repeat business, depends as well on what extra. For some girls FIV, FIA are extras, for other girls its included.

[NF4591]

Hello Gents. I am excited to get back to the clubs since they have been reopening. I had a great time at Amesia earlier, and I want to return. When I was there before, I prepaid for my time, and was given services that would be extras at other clubs, for no extra charge (CIM, rimming). I did stay for a long time with more than one girl, so I don't know if it is normal not to charge extra, or if the girls were willing to throw in these services in this case because I was spending and they wanted me to extend time (which worked!

Is this normal at Amesia, that services are all included in the time? If not, is there a going rate for extras like rimming, CIM, lesbian sex, and anal? And if you have already prepaid for time, then what is the procedure for extras. Do you have to leave the room in the middle of the session to pay for them?

[Sebastiane]

Anyone been back to Aphrodisia since the reopening?

[Polyamorist]

One big issue of Rouge was the lack of turnover, as though the old guard mobbed all the new girls, especially the successful ones. I have seen last year very attractive girls, who were busy, but did not last long and disappeared quickly. The suspect that the main clique has made them the life impossible, is very strong.

I only wish girls would confide in us more when they have problems. Their default behavior is to hide everything, as if we were chumps or villains. We are constantly having to second-guess what is really going on.

In any club, if girls are feeling oppressed by management or the other girls, and they can't retaliate, they may opt to take it out on the customer during sessions. This is especially true in clubs where the customer does not get any protection or respect from the management.

[Belbo]

Personally I would not weep for it, Signor Belbo. I have been there a couple of times, and it had an overly controlled atmosphere. There was a headmistress-like character who watched everything and not so much for the customer's advantage. I even got the sense that she was briefing the girls before I had sex with them on how they should behave and what they might expect to get out of me. So it is more like the old-style brothels with madams that the Swiss got sick of precisely because they had all this control and service steadily declined. What we love about FKKs is the spontaneity, and that depends a lot on the independence of the girls. They can't really see you as human if they themselves are treated like soldiers or spies or robots or something.

I had completely different pieces of experience; it seemed to me always that the girls were free to do whatever they wanted and that the real power was more on the girls than on the management.

One big issue of Rouge was the lack of turnover, as though the old guard mobbed all the new girls, especially the successful ones. I have seen last year very attractive girls, who were busy, but did not last long and disappeared quickly. The suspect that the main clique has made them the life impossible, is very strong.

[Sirioja]

Personally I would not weep for it, Signor Belbo. I have been there a couple of times, and it had an overly controlled atmosphere. There was a headmistress-like character who watched everything and not so much for the customer's advantage. I even got the sense that she was briefing the girls before I had sex with them on how they should behave and what they might expect to get out of me. So it is more like the old-style brothels with madams that the Swiss got sick of precisely because they had all this control and service steadily declined. What we love about FKKs is the spontaneity, and that depends a lot on the independence of the girls. They can't really see you as human if they themselves are treated like soldiers or spies or robots or something.

Yesterday, girls told me new Swiss law rules they were told by manager: no kissing, CBJ and nothing in public, but we know how new German law worked for real. 3 new girls for me, I didn't ask anything sexual before, nor in room, I just played my game, first who is not a new girl but more elegant look now finished exhausted from 3 orgasmus she said but very hard for me to finish with her level, even after 3 months. Second was just exceptional for love in bed, I didn't understand why desk didn't ask me to pay for extended time, maybe because she didn't tell me we were over time, so, to be fair with her, when I did tip less than 5 girls out of much more than 1000 rooms, I gave her my €, out of desk. Then, Rebeka. Hu ex Globe, Bumsalp, who wanted we did party with her friend who touched me and I hated this, I know she is afraid of a dangerous in bed guy like me, but I told her: I want only You. I was happy to close book with her, even I understood before what happened, but was so disappointed when so wow discovery, but she feels more safe when she can keep control.

There are laws and there are men and girls I look like women, I don t beg in a grocery, I won t ask, I play for surprise from my behavior and talent. For sure, less risky to go with girls already known, but so enjoyable to get without asking under this new law. Give me new motivation, to play versus law, in private. Anyway, even before new law, even at Globe, my girls didn't want in public with me, even Sofia or Joana didn't, Megan of course not, and same in other clubs when girls know me. I m unlucky with girls, I can t play Rocco.

[PaulInZurich]

The new Amesia pricing policy is consistent with the closure of Life; to attract, with much lower prices (340 vs 460), customers with the typical contact bar mindset "go, grab a bier, have a look, pick up a girl, have sex and then go home".
Who goes to Amesia to spend a day in a sauna and have multiple sessions, sees instead a slightly increase, as food and alcohol are not included anymore; we'll see if the strategy pays back.

Free entry in Amesia will attract guys who go for a look and maybe one round. For that crowd it just got cheaper. Amesia was before at the same price point as Globe and they were struggling with that.

No more free alcohol I suppose will reduce the number of people who just hang around.

[PaulInZurich]

What we love about FKKs is the spontaneity, and that depends a lot on the independence of the girls. They can't really see you as human if they themselves are treated like soldiers or spies or robots or something.

That's a good point in general. But I knew as well some girls that seemed the most fun, free spirit type only to find out later that they were sent to work by a pimp too. The type of guys that would tell them (paraphrasing), when you get fucked in the ass over there, think what a nice house we will have together. And when the girl doesn't want to go anymore the pimp already has the next girl (a few years younger) lined up.

[Polyamorist]

I am instead concerned that Club Rouge maybe the next victim; pity, a small and elegant bijoux, great food, which lately had a good lineup and was an excellent alternative to Globe and Aphro.

Personally I would not weep for it, Signor Belbo. I have been there a couple of times, and it had an overly controlled atmosphere. There was a headmistress-like character who watched everything and not so much for the customer's advantage. I even got the sense that she was briefing the girls before I had sex with them on how they should behave and what they might expect to get out of me. So it is more like the old-style brothels with madams that the Swiss got sick of precisely because they had all this control and service steadily declined. What we love about FKKs is the spontaneity, and that depends a lot on the independence of the girls. They can't really see you as human if they themselves are treated like soldiers or spies or robots or something.

[Sirioja]

The corona virus is changing the market, at least in Zurich and probably reducing the number of clubs.

First victim is Club Life, which was shut down: honestly, despite the room were large and beautiful, it is not a big loss, as it was on a downward spiral and all the best girls were quickly moved to Aphrodisia. A visit from time to time to meet some specific girls were worth, but otherwise there were lately better choices in Zurich.

The new Amesia pricing policy is consistent with the closure of Life; to attract, with much lower prices (340 vs 460), customers with the typical contact bar mindset "go, grab a bier, have a look, pick up a girl, have sex and then go home".

Who goes to Amesia to spend a day in a sauna and have multiple sessions, sees instead a slightly increase, as food and alcohol are not included anymore; we'll see if the strategy pays back.

I am instead concerned that Club Rouge maybe the next victim; pity, a small and elegant bijoux, great food, which lately had a good lineup and was an excellent alternative to Globe and Aphro.

When Globe lost chic for me, becoming just fuck factory, even no public sex and less clients may be improvement now for me, when Aphrodisia looks don t worth the rate, Sunny don t worth 280 for 30, but I really enjoyed Amesia, more chic than Globe and Aphrodisia for me, with more interesting, woman type, girls, like Milena or Yulia. Good point is also free snack to eat, because I m far from my kitchen. In NRW, GT and LR propose package entry, I think I will take breakfast, shower to relax from stress driving like a snail in Switzerland, diner at Globe, and will move to Amesia for girls. Good for Globe to get my 95 , and I will spend for women who interest me. Good package with 10 minutes between, for less expensive than GT and LR. I think many guys will go like at Aphrodisia, but just to drink and voyeur, but no business for girls, so girls will be fresh for real business. 30 minutes were 220 before, 235 at Globe, now 170 with free drinks, no alcohol, and free snack, when Globe foods fall like looks. To try this package.

[Belbo]

On their website they state free entrance with only soft drinks included. Access to wellness costs extra, as well no more free alcoholic drinks or food. 30 minutes for CHF 170,1 hour for CHF 340. They have 34 girls planned for the opening on Friday.

The corona virus is changing the market, at least in Zurich and probably reducing the number of clubs.

First victim is Club Life, which was shut down: honestly, despite the room were large and beautiful, it is not a big loss, as it was on a downward spiral and all the best girls were quickly moved to Aphrodisia. A visit from time to time to meet some specific girls were worth, but otherwise there were lately better choices in Zurich.

The new Amesia pricing policy is consistent with the closure of Life; to attract, with much lower prices (340 vs 460), customers with the typical contact bar mindset "go, grab a bier, have a look, pick up a girl, have sex and then go home".

Who goes to Amesia to spend a day in a sauna and have multiple sessions, sees instead a slightly increase, as food and alcohol are not included anymore; we'll see if the strategy pays back.

I am instead concerned that Club Rouge maybe the next victim; pity, a small and elegant bijoux, great food, which lately had a good lineup and was an excellent alternative to Globe and Aphro.