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[Dubner32]

Guys,

Thanks for advice.

Think I'll probably stick to 'known' clubs; that is, drive back to Zurich from Latterbrunnen. However, does anyone know Secret 6 (Interlaken) for a possible pit stop. Or is Palace Lucerne a good option to Zurich clubs; presumably similar to Westside, Swiss (and History) since under same management umbrella.

Siri, please more info on your Swiss Polizei experience. I know (to my cost!) that CH has very efficient speed cameras, also Grenzewachtcorps, but, so far, no contact with regular police.

Thanks in anticipation, the.

[Sirioja]

Agree, you can stay overnight in Zrich and travel, on the same day and back, to a lot of great ski areas. However, Graubunden is closer than the Wallis or Berner Oberland; Lenzerheide-Arosa and Flims-Laax are two big areas, not more than 1:30 far from Zrich and also easily reachable with public transport. Flumserberg is smaller, but still enjoyable with plenty of slopes and takes less than 1 hour from Zrich.

Yes small Switzerland is wonderful land for ski, free ride, extreme for me in Verbier, and excellence for FKK to recover on evening / night. Not ski season yet except in Zermatt but a bit far from Zurich, but look forward to return for Kate very soon on my end of climbing season. She is for me for who love women.

Just be careful about Polizei, they try to fuck foreigners and also WGs. I don't pay anymore, I prefer to go to jail for a while.

[Belbo]

Switzerland is a small country, so FKK Swiss capital, Zurich is not far from mountains. Mythic Wengen and Verbier are 2 h /2 h30 driving. Les Diablerets are closer. Bern Oberland is the closest.

Agree, you can stay overnight in Zürich and travel, on the same day and back, to a lot of great ski areas. However, Graubunden is closer than the Wallis or Berner Oberland; Lenzerheide-Arosa and Flims-Laax are two big areas, not more than 1:30 far from Zürich and also easily reachable with public transport. Flumserberg is smaller, but still enjoyable with plenty of slopes and takes less than 1 hour from Zürich.

[Sirioja]

Guys,

I am looking for good options for a Ski (Downhill and some X Country) and FKK / Saunaclub combination for a ski break this winter. The best I can find so far is the Nassfeld / Wellcum area in Austria. Any CH (or D) suggestions please. (I intend self drive for convenience and equipment carrying).

Many thanks.

Switzerland is a small country, so FKK Swiss capital, Zurich is not far from mountains. Mythic Wengen and Verbier are 2 h /2 h30 driving. Les Diablerets are closer. Bern Oberland is the closest.

[Dubner32]

Guys,

I am looking for good options for a Ski (Downhill and some X Country) and FKK / Saunaclub combination for a ski break this winter. The best I can find so far is the Nassfeld / Wellcum area in Austria. Any CH (or D) suggestions please. (I intend self drive for convenience and equipment carrying).

Many thanks.

[PaulInZurich]

The other girl is Daisy, easily recognizable on the Club Web Site.

You are right, it's Daisy 100%.

[PaulInZurich]

I quickly had to check a Globe report where I wrote about Zelia in a Swiss forum. You are absolutely right. No silicone. Thanks for correcting me. Sorry, to long ago.

I was never in the room with the Daisy. So I do not know her. But I will ask Zelia on the weekend, if I see her in the Freubad. I was last Saturday there. Had a great 1.5 h room with Gabi and also a great 1. 5 h room with Dea.

Both are fun, and Daisy and Zelia are a good team. It's a loss for Globe, but I am not surprised that sometimes the club rules are too much. In my opinion they should relax a little bit, bring the rules back at the level from 3 - 4 years ago.

[Sirioja]

I quickly had to check a Globe report where I wrote about Zelia in a Swiss forum. You are absolutely right. No silicone. Thanks for correcting me. Sorry, to long ago.

I was never in the room with the Daisy. So I do not know her. But I will ask Zelia on the weekend, if I see her in the Freubad. I was last Saturday there. Had a great 1.5 h room with Gabi and also a great 1. 5 h room with Dea.

What is rate at Freubad? Is casting on same level than Vicky Globe? But with more natural looks: no silicon, not too many tattoos.

[Member #4629]

Zelia doesn't have silicone tits. Agree about her, she was lots of fun.

Who is the other girl, is it Daisy?

I quickly had to check a Globe report where I wrote about Zelia in a Swiss forum. You are absolutely right. No silicone. Thanks for correcting me. Sorry, to long ago.

I was never in the room with the Daisy. So I do not know her. But I will ask Zelia on the weekend, if I see her in the Freubad. I was last Saturday there. Had a great 1.5 h room with Gabi and also a great 1. 5 h room with Dea.

[Belbo]

Zelia doesn't have silicone tits. Agree about her, she was lots of fun.

Who is the other girl, is it Daisy?

Zelia has a marvellous pair of natural tits.

The other girl is Daisy, easily recognizable on the Club Web Site.

Does somebody know why they left Globe, where, as far as I saw, they were very busy and making money?

Too much pressure? Argued with the management?

[PaulInZurich]

do not know if you know Zelia from the Globe? Pretty blonde RO Girl, silicone tits. 4 or 5 weeks ago, she changed from Globe, togheter with a other Girl from the Globe, to the Club Freubad.

I think everyone where with her in the room knows that she is absolutely fantastic. Currently she is on holidays but comes back to Freubad at the end of the week..

Zelia doesn't have silicone tits. Agree about her, she was lots of fun.

Who is the other girl, is it Daisy?

[Member #4629]

was in great shape and mentioned that she was an ex Globe girl. In Germany this is usually a good sign, however in Switzerland this is not, most likely she was kicked out of the Globe,

Not every girl where leaves a club was kicked.

To keep the stroy short. Just an example.

I do not know if you know Zelia from the Globe? Pretty blonde RO Girl, silicone tits. 4 or 5 weeks ago, she changed from Globe, togheter with a other Girl from the Globe, to the Club Freubad.

I think everyone where with her in the room knows that she is absolutely fantastic. Currently she is on holidays but comes back to Freubad at the end of the week.

BTW 3 weeks ago the Club Freubad celebrated its 14th birthday.

[Polyamorist]

The third and last girl I was with, did something I thought never happens in Swiss clubs, she tried a covered blow job, I said I would call of the session and then she gave in. 2 lessons here, not all clubs in Switzerland have stellar service standards and Freubad is not recommended, at least by me.

Salaam, Mr Indigo. My experience at Freubad was better than yours, but I also would not recommend that anyone make a special trip there. The service level is too variable. Even DFK is not a club standard.

The club got a lot of hype last year when a popular manager called Torsten moved there. Unfortunately I have seen no evidence of him or attentive management. It's a laissez-faire environment.

As a big club, it typically has about 40 girls, which is good. 80% are Romanian. There's a smattering of Latinas, who are keen but not so fit. The prettier girls here tend to be Romanians with princess attitudes.

I see a big problem in the pricing structure which encourages lots of 15-minute sessions. Customers have lowered expectations for quickies and are less likely to complain. So the girls develop bad habits in 15-minute sessions, and then carry them over to longer sessions too.

Freubad has great facilities and lots of potential -- sadly not fulfilled.

[Polyamorist]

What happens sometimes is that a Swiss guy will get part of a big house, import a bunch of down-on-their-luck Romanian girls, advertise the place as an FKK, but basically use the place as his own private harem. He will often tell the girls to limit their services to the customers, especially telling them not to kiss. He doesn't want them running off on him.

In such a place, there is very low turnover and the girls will all sleep in the house. You will perceive a depressed atmosphere and very few customers. The girls are bored most of the time. If a place is operating at 10% capacity, you might think this would be considered a big problem by the club management. And so it would be if it is run as a serious business. But given the inflated prices, even at 10% capacity, the house can earn enough to stay open. So if the guy in charge is getting all the sex he wants, why should he care?

I have a lot of respect for any sex manager that serves the interests of the customers: it can be a difficult business at times. But if a manager uses his position of power to *compete* with the customers, there is a different word I use: PIMP. This kind of thing gives the FKK world a bad name. This is not what it is about at all. I seriously don't appreciate another guy telling a girl whether she is allowed to have good sex with me or not. Unless the managers are as capable of being as soothing as Stuart Smalley -- and few of these Hell's Angels types can reach the level of Stuart Smalley -- they need to just take my money and then stay the hell out of it.

And I really hope the Swiss clubs can learn to self-regulate so they don't get hit by the same sledgehammer as came down on Germany.

(Yes I could name specific Saunaclubs but I don't want to in case I'm wrong for particular houses. You must learn to recognize that atmosphere for yourself. The problem varies in degree from place to place.).

[Maxime]

Thanks DI for the report and taking the plunge. Pity it did not meet the Globe service standards, but good to know we can avoid Freubad from now on.