Ankara

[Local Expert]

Was out again last night :-)

Karizma was closed due to a police raid. One of my favourite chicks told me that the bar's owner had to renew his booze-license, so we dont expect the place to open until mid-september.

Yesterday was kind of a muslim holy night or so ("kandil" in Turkish), so many Turkish birds did not work, but interestingly I saw many, really beautiful Russian chicks hanging around in the bars.

My chick invited me over to a new place (also in the Dedeman area) which I have never visited before. It is caled "Fiba Bar". and the stock was pretty good. Prices are the same as everywhere; there were actually some real stunners hanging around.

I attach a "map" of the locations of Avlu, Pikola, 1001 Gece, Karizma and Fiba, so you guys won't get lost in town.

Crazy Dick: I have never heard of that hotel

[Crazy Dick]

Trying to relive some old memories. Is the Hotel Berlin still in Ankara. It was a fairly open hotel that offered anything a young man may want.

Thanks in advance,

Crazy Dick

[No_Commit]

Member #1051:
Sorry as I am no longer in Turkey, I don't check the thread often enough, except for reading fellow LE's adventures that is (HELLO LE!).
GOP stands for Gazi Osman Pasa. 7/12 is on the main street ( I think is called Ugur Mumcu). It is located just before you see McDonalds on your right hand site. I am afraid this is the best I can do as I no longer have their card or phone number.
Their receiptionist, can babble a few English words but what you want and what they serve is a very basic concept which needs no words to describe.
Cheers. But beware, the massage offered is very basic and amateurish especially for people coming from Asia like me.
NC

[Local Expert]

Last night I went "down the road" again and found a new place. It is called "Karizma Bar" and about 50m down to 1001 Gece. The prices are the same as mentioned below and the club is full with fake blonds. I actually didnt see a single "non-blond" girl there :-). The Turkish - Russian ratio is 80 - 20.

This bar is the cleanest and most modern from all bars I have seen and I pretty much enjoyed myself :-)

Since they have a "tourist licence", Karizma is open until 06.00 a.m. The chick I took home told me that the real party there starts at 04.00 a.m. because the girls from the other bars, which close earlier, all snatch in at that time

[Member #1051]

Please share the address and tel no of this parlour. I am a frequent visitor to Ankara but dont know what GOP means.

Does the receptionist speak English?

Thanks!

Cheers!

Originally posted by no_commit
I wanted to post my massage parlour experience as well to conclude my trip to Turkey. I wanted to check out the massage parlour scene in Ankara before I left having heard from our good friend LE. Unfortunately he only knew general locations of the two parlours he had heard of. As I had some free time, I wanted to explore myself. I guess I was very lucky. I found a parlour at my first attempt in GOP. The place is called 7-12 and is located on the main street just before McDonalds and the exchange office located on the first floor of an apartment building. As I had no idea whether they offered Value Added Services, my first time was in exploratory nature and my second time was quite fun.
The owner must be some ex-football player (has a huge photo on the wall). The receptionist/manageress is the sexiest girl I saw there. She is very flirtatious as well. I wish I had more time & opportunity while I was in Ankara! She manages her appointments using a diary and I saw 6 girls' names on that given day's page. But I never saw more than 2 girls in the apartment (both of my visits were around 17 pm-perhaps more choices are available later in the evening). The cost of a 45 min straight massage is 30 million (about USD 40) and a 25 min soap massage is 25 million. If you get both, the cost is 50 total. Massage is OK but soap massage is touch and go. Definitely nothing like Bangkok! Don't get your hopes too high.
I got a HJ on my first visit for an extra 10 million tip from a butt ugly girl. I called the place up next time and booked the better looking girl the next day. Not only her looks were much better but she was much better in service too (both quality of massage and additional services). After a standard massage, she gave me a BBBJ and CIM for an extra 20 million.
If you are in Ankara and fancy a quickie this place can be a nice afternoon alternative.
Cheers.

[Local Expert]

Last night I went out to 1001 Gece and Avlu just to talk to the waiters and get a true statement about the prices. I complained that they often rip of guests and told them, that if they wanted more foreigners to frequent their bars, they should be fair to us.

In 1001 Gece, the waiter "Aydin" (surprisingly) told me that the beer/cola/etc. for the man is 10 million TL and the drink for the girl is 15 million. You do NOT have to pay any tip to the gardrobe or the donkey who opens the taxidoor for you. (He said the latter explicitly !) Just tell these guys that you dont have any change "bozuk param yok". I told him that I will put his name on the internet, so refer to him in case you have problems.

In Avlu it is the same, just you have to pay around 5 million for the gardrobe. In there, call the waiter "Orhan" and again refer to me, if necessary.

The reason why these waiters try to fuck their guests is that they do not receive a normal salary, but live on tips.

Cool Morris: I would like you to talk to these waiters when you are here and inform me whether they stuck to what they promised.

[No_Commit]

I wanted to post my massage parlour experience as well to conclude my trip to Turkey. I wanted to check out the massage parlour scene in Ankara before I left having heard from our good friend LE. Unfortunately he only knew general locations of the two parlours he had heard of. As I had some free time, I wanted to explore myself. I guess I was very lucky. I found a parlour at my first attempt in GOP. The place is called 7-12 and is located on the main street just before McDonalds and the exchange office located on the first floor of an apartment building. As I had no idea whether they offered Value Added Services, my first time was in exploratory nature and my second time was quite fun.
The owner must be some ex-football player (has a huge photo on the wall). The receptionist/manageress is the sexiest girl I saw there. She is very flirtatious as well. I wish I had more time & opportunity while I was in Ankara! She manages her appointments using a diary and I saw 6 girls' names on that given day's page. But I never saw more than 2 girls in the apartment (both of my visits were around 17 pm-perhaps more choices are available later in the evening). The cost of a 45 min straight massage is 30 million (about USD 40) and a 25 min soap massage is 25 million. If you get both, the cost is 50 total. Massage is OK but soap massage is touch and go. Definitely nothing like Bangkok! Don't get your hopes too high.
I got a HJ on my first visit for an extra 10 million tip from a butt ugly girl. I called the place up next time and booked the better looking girl the next day. Not only her looks were much better but she was much better in service too (both quality of massage and additional services). After a standard massage, she gave me a BBBJ and CIM for an extra 20 million.
If you are in Ankara and fancy a quickie this place can be a nice afternoon alternative.
Cheers.

[Cool Morris]

Hi Local Expert

Thanks for your insight. I will be in Ankara, August 6. I plan to check out all those places, and will share my experiences at the WSG Forum when I return.

[Local Expert]

Cool Morris:

Since no_commit's and my reports are up-to-date, you can rely on them prefectly. Things usualy don't change in Ankara, so even the old reports are still "up-to-date".

The prices are: 80 million TL (= 60 USD) for one fuck and 150 million TL for 2 in your hotel / home.

I suggest the following tour: Avlu - 1001 Gece - Pikolo. If you find a good chick in 1001 Gece, get her mobilephone number and meet her outside, so you don't have to pay money to the door-guard, the gardrobier, etc.

Have fun !

[Cool Morris]

Hi Local Expert,

I am planning to be in Ankara in August 6th. I was wondering if I could count on your "expertise" when I get there. Let me know. Also, what is the average rate for these ladies, is it between $100-$150???

Thanks

[No_Commit]

July 13th, 2003 (Ankara)
I got to Ankara on the 12th on the same flight with LE from Istanbul and once we reached Ankara went our separate ways only to meet each other the next evening for another boy's night out. I had the intention to venture out on Ankara on my own the night I arrived but opted not to.
The next day, I actually met up with LE and his mates in a bar in Tunali at 8 pm. We had a small chat and I had to dash off home for some personal business. We met up again at 10ish at the same bar where LE was waiting for me alone this time. Funny enough we ran across the same crowd he introduced me in 2 different bars later on. Ankara is a small scene after all. We decided to go on a fact-finding mission visiting as many bars as we can.
We started our evening at Avlu bar. This is the upstairs bar of the two bars right next to Dedeman hotel. This one is supposedly flashier, pricier and has more girls available. We positioned ourselves at a strategic location at the bar and chatted a bit while eyeing the local talent. All girls are Turkish here. There are some truly ugly ones as well as some 8's available. Some were trying to make eye contact and strike a conversation. Girl to monger ratio was probably 2 to 1 and the joint was already packed with people even at 10.30. We had a couple of beers and paid up 20 million for the bill. LocalExpert is indeed the local expert, as everyone seems to know him.
Pikolo next door, which is downstairs, was closed as LE says due to some police raid. But this bar was friendlier and less pricy compared to Avlu last time I had visited the place.
Next port of call was Club 1001 Gece. This place was much less crowded and there were a few girls dancing on the dance floor. One of them had the most obvious protruding nipples and was defying gravity (LE eyed that one) and the other, which I fancied, was called Yasemin and her body looked pretty good to me. We called them to our table and within the minute they made the deal and gave their phone numbers to us for later use. The bill there was 60 million including 2 drinks for the girls.
We then moved on to the place opposite Neva Palas Hotel but I can't recall the name. It was a huge room with few people sitting around. There were a few girls but none were striking. After paying up 20 million for a couple of beers and stumbling to LE's contingent who were making the tour on their own we moved on to Final on the same small street as Dedeman. We were sat a table right in front of the dance floor and there were about 10 Russian girls dancing. They were actually quite good looking probably par with Bacardi without the fancy dresses and pro make up. However, none looked like they were enjoying what they were doing. The headwaiter sat with us and explained that this was a "touristic gazino" which means that it is a pavyon with a fancy name where they are there to get you. Beer costs 10 million each but a lady drink would set you back 40 million (similar to what you would pay at Bacardi in Istanbul). But the catch here is that you can't actually take the girl out before 5 am. Yea right! Modus operandi is that they make you drink as much as possibly while racking up lady drinks and you would be lucky if you can wave at the girl while she is going out at 5 am. After another 20 million bill, we moved back to Avlu calling up on our pre-arranged girls.
They met us on the street and shared a taxi together. They seemed to know where we were going. Oh by the way, LE had kindly invited me over to his place for the night. Anyway, we got condoms on the way and finally reached our destination. LE and Sevda disappeared in their room and I was left alone with Yasemin. At first she was very pleasant and she and I got undressed and I had my shower. But then she received this phone call and made an appointment with someone else an hour later! At that point I had already paid her 150 million (USD 110) for 2 shots, which seemed to me a 2-hour deal. When I told her this, she became irritated and said she could only stay for 1 hour. And when I was trying to open the couch, she said I didn't need to, as she did not want a bed, and so on. I got pissed off and asked my money back telling her I didn't even want to touch her with a 10-foot pole. She said she already lost time, which was fair and kept 40 million while I took 110 million back. I then noticed her bagging the condoms and took all of those back as well. Yasemin had a really nice body and I would have really liked to bonk her but I didn't want to put up with her attitude. After they left, I also called up a cab and said good-bye to the LE and went straight back to Avlu. A tall fake blond with a so so body had tried to talk to me earlier. She seemed to have a better attitude so I went straight for her. She was surprised to see me back and promised to make me happy which she certainly did. This time I was damn explicit with I wanted 2-hours+2 shots+BBBJ. She asked for USD 150, and settled for USD 110 (which was incidentally the last money I had in my pocket not counting a few 20 million notes which were earmarked for hotel and taxi).
We took a cab to a hotel she recommended somewhere in Ulus. The hotel was 35 million. As a matter of fact, we did have a good chat and I found out her friends called her Porno Hulya because she performed in two porn movies. She had small tits but a nice skin. She could lose a few pounds but she was taller than the rest. She gave me a good head, and she was wild in bed. According to her doggy was her fav, and I was very happy to give what she liked. She was such a pro that she was clearly in control all the time. For the second round, I lost my concentration when she started licking her own arm to arouse herself and started taking dirty which was damn funny. After about 15 min it was clear to me that I wasn't going to come so I called quits and called for a taxi. She called her own driver and I took her to another bar just a few meters down from 1001 gece. Apparently after 5 am, all the girls from nearby joints gather there to hunt for pavyon customers stumbling there drunk. Good to know in case you are hungry at 5 am in the morning I guess.
This concludes my mongering experience in Turkey and I am leaving as a happy man.
NC

[Local Expert]

I met No_Commit yesterday around 22.00 and we went directly to Avlu Bar. Although it was pretty early, Avlu was full of nice chicks. We had a beer there (10 million each) and wanted to continue to Pikolo Bar next door, but that was closed due to a police raid on the weekend.

We then headed to 1001 Gece where we found two nice chicks and got their telephone numbers for future use. Also here we had 2 beers (10 million each).

After that, we went to a place exactly opposite to NEVA PALAS Hotel (about 3 mins taxi ride). I 4got the name of the place and it was new 4 both of us and pretty empty, although there were some nice chicks hanging around.

We then went to a place, 300m opposite to Avlu to find out that this was a pavyon. (Pavyon means: pay a huge bill for ur beer and a huger one for HER beer, hold her hand and go home masturbating). Therefore we left after having had one beer each and went back to Avlu. Avlu was now even more packed, but we didnt find what we wanted and called the 2 chicks we met prior in 1001 Gece. That was a good idea, cause we didnt have to pay all the tips to the waiters in 1001 Gece.

We took the girls home, mine was called Sevda and had the nicest titts I have ever seen on a girl. She was very inexperienced and had no idea how to give a head. Had a quick fuck with her, then she left.

NC has another story, so lets wait 4 that one.

I have recently heard of a "pizza delivery service" in Ankara. There are supposed to be 2 guys who you call, then they bring you one out of 10 Russian chicks to your house/hotel and you can have them until 09.00 in the morning. The price is about 150 million TL. That sounds excellent, I will do some research about it in the near future and keep you informed.

Additionally I have heard of massage parlours in Ankara that offer a hand job after a 45 minutes massage. You pay like 45 million. Not been to any yet, but will this month. One is said to be in Bahçelievler, the other one in GOP.

[Connect 28]

I tend to have limited time in Istanbul and Ankara when I go there. But thanks for the info.

[No_Commit]

Please read my FR posted in march under Istanbul folder...
Quoting the relavant section:

" I went to a restaurant in Laleli upon a recommendation. I don't recall the name of the place but it was one of the few located in a small street parallel to the main one and it was for pedestrians only. The place looks like a legit restaurant and serves meals but there are a few girls (ex-Soviet) sitting around. I asked a 23 year old blond to join me. We had an early dinner together and arranged to go to a nearby hotel."

[Connect 28]

No_commit,

Where did you pick up the Moldovian in Istanbul?

connect_28

Originally posted by no_commit
On a recent trip to Ankara few months back, I visited all of these 3 bars around Dedemen Hotel. Can't remember which one was which but Avlu and Piko are almost next to one another. One of them was really pushy and they saw me as fair game. The other (which I believe was the one with the entrance leading to a bar downstairs) had much more reasonable prices, friendlier staff, and with better looking women. If you go there, just go in both bars, you'll instantly know which one is which.
1001 was a different story altogether. It had that sleezy Turkish nightclub look with these "Midnight Express" looking bouncers at the door which makes you think twice before you enter the door.
For exclusive Eastern European stock, Istanbul seems to be the place. I had an excellent few hours with a Moldovan beauty there on a previous trip.
Overall, verdict for Ankara: DEAD BORING
However, I did enjoy a night out in the town with some of the younger crowd from the local office. The girls were damn hot and I thought some were giving out signals. But did not dare to take it further, afraid of my willy to get chopped by an angry Turkish boyfriend or father.