Istanbul

[Inostranets]

Interesting and informative report Aslan. It is true about the aids situation in Turkey, i'm convinced it is more prevalent than is it is reported to be, although nothing serious. However I certainly wouldnt have sex with an aksary girl without a rubber (and my own at that). The phenomenon of girls marry turks is interesting, I know of one girl who has done so and has a turkish passport and everything, it must genuinely be for love as ex ussr can enter turkey upon simply paying a fee like westerners, and one would even think that working in such a field and having turkish papers might even cause a problem when encountering the cops, maybe not. Though I can't see any advantage in having them.

To any vets. of the Irmak scene, when does it start hotting up, as right now seems quite attrocious? Prefer blondes right now none at all it seems.

[k__rat]

Hi all,

I'm a white American guy going to Istanbul in early May for about a week (work work work). I think I will be staying in a pretty posh hotel in Taksim (Marmara?). I have yet to come up with a decent map to see how it relates to the places listed in the forum (e.g. Irmak and such). I'll be busy until fairly late every night, so I won't be able to wander around during the day.

I'd appreciate any info about the area around Taksim - is this close to the areas discussed recently in the forum? Any good agencies that can supply beautiful women who speak at least some English would be good to know as well - I won't have time to really search and will probably have to just "order in". Am I likely to have luck scoring in the bars of the nice hotels?

TIA for PMs or replies to the board. I'll give a report when I get back

[Aslan Kral]

Inostranets,

You can find girls from many countries at Irmak. I met Romanian, Russian, Moldavian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Ukrainian and even Azerbajcani girls at Irmak. I would expect girls from Georgia and Armenia as well, but never met with such. There are girls from as north as St. Petersburg. However, no Turkish girls there. Ladies mentioned that a Turkish pro-singer comes to disco section after 2-2:30AM on most days. She seems like a singer, but in fact an expensive pro. Her name is Arzu.

Some girls never sit at the restaurant or smaller section next to it. They come as late as 1AM and go up to disco section.

Aslan Kral

[Aslan Kral]

Returned back from another 3-days trip and wanted to share some information.

1-) Regarding Turkish hookers, some ladies mentioned about Ugur Disco, where 2 working Turkish girls visit on a regular basis. My understanding is that it should be close to Big Pub, same side on the Mustafa Kemal Caddesi. I will possibly try one of these ladies on my next visit. Someone else will arrange it and send it to my hotel. They also mentioned that this is a relatively small disco, never been there myself.

There is a girl from Azerbaycan who speaks fluent Turkish, but I would possibly give her 5 out of ten, she is very much like Turkish, I mean it is hard to describe the difference. I might be able to get her phone number, though no guarantees. Please send me a private message.

One lady mentioned about Hisar Gazinosu around Istiklal Caddesi. She had worked there before and there are now 3 Turkish girls working on a regular basis. As far as I understood, they are good quality and very hot. However, it would cost several hundred million Turkish liras to go there and stay for some time in the casino to pick them up. Standard con scheme works in most casinos around that area. So, the best way is to go there and without sitting talk to the manager and arrange one of the Turkish girls. According to her, this is possible with one condition, you take the girl to a hotel that the casino has an agreement with. For a few hours, she would estimate the overall cost around 400M Turkish liras, about 300USD. She said this is possibly too much, I mean you can get a cheaper deal in Aksaray, but these girls are good, again according to her. She offered to go there together, may be I will. I pushed a little bit to get the phone numbers but did not get them yet. I would love to have sex with a hot Turkish girl for $150-200 a night.

2-) I stayed in Topkapi Eresin, 73.5 USD per night including taxes and breakfast. I would rate it as a true 4-start hotel, better than Akgun(3-star) or Holiday Inn(3-star). During April, it seems the price is going to be similar. Just go to www.goldentulip.com and make a reservation. Price is slightly higher, but you don't need registration for the girls, close to Aksaray (5-6 minutes by taxi), and nice enough. The girl can directly come to your room without any questions.

3-) Some of the girls agreed to share their phone numbers in this forum so I will post them. There are 2 Hungarian ladies I had mentioned earlier. They don't speak good English, but you might be able to communicate well. The second one worked in Europe and should be able speak Spanish.

0 535 315 7711
0 535 516 9295

Once you call, just mention that you got the number from internet. If agreed, they might come to your room directly.

In terms of appearance, I would rate one of them as 8 and the other one as 6. But the second one plays very aggressively in bed. I would possibly rate playing/fucking quality as 8-9. You will possibly get a true BJ(or BBBJ), she is a PRO. Of course, this is difficult to guarantee, she might play completely different with you.

The ages are 30 and 28, heights 1.70 and 1.67, respectively. One is plain brunette and other one is slightly darker and slightly overweight, possibly have some Gypsy background. I mean I didn't ask direct questions about the background for the second lady.

You can have a 2-some, and I myself plan to have such an experience during next visit. They offered to do it last day before my departure, but was truly tired, having fucked four different women previous day, thanks to aggressive plays and 25 mg of Viagra. Two of the women completely sucked me out.

4-) There is an easy way of getting Viagra, in the airport. After you go through the customs, you will come to the waiting area. Just turn right and at the end, there are shops on the left. There is a pharmacy which sells Viagra, 25, 50 or 100 mg tablets by Pfizer. I bought two 50mg packs for 63.5M Turkish liras each, slightly cheaper than what I had paid in Aksaray a few weeks ago. They don't ask for a prescription.

5-) I want to provide an interesting statistic. A few months ago, police raided our popular joints and collected 150 girls, almost all of them being foreigners. These girls had to stay in a hospital for a night after the tests. Here are the results;

3 Moldavian girls with AIDS
7 girls with Frengi
1 girls with bel soguklugu (I don't know its English, can't just remember)

One of my ladies had talked to them before they got deported. It turns out that these Moldovian girls had visited the same abortion clinic in Moldavia and they seriously suspect that they got it there. Anyway, these gals fuck Turkish men without using condoms. I am not saying that just Moldovian girls are dangerous, I don't know why Moldavians would be different from Ukrainians or Russians in this respect.

Anyway, AIDS is a reality, even in a relatively closed country like Turkey. Most of the men visiting Aksaray area, according to the girls, are married and possibly fucking their own wives on a regular basis, spreading the disease. The state is just trying to prevent this and not forcing the law to deport all foreign prostitutes. If the girl turns out to be clean, she is released and can go back to Irmak.

There was another raid just on Irmak a few weeks ago, the police collected 17 girls. The tests indicated that all of them were clean.

Girls are claiming that most of the ladies in Irmak use condoms. My experience shows otherwise. After some sex, they are willing to take it out. I would say, 1 out of 5 is using under all circumstances, 2 out of 5 are using it depending on the guy, 2 out of 5 don't have the notion of using a condom.

One of my ladies mentioned that a girl can consistently avoid police raids to go undetected. Consider this, a girl knows that she is infected, and still comes to Turkey and try very hard to be undetected. Most girls I talked want to avoid the police because of money, because they lose at least 1 full night. On the other hand, they said the hospital is usually good, food and a nice bed is provided and police officers usually don't treat them badly. They also get reliable test results.

6-) Many ladies have Turkish boyfriends. I mean serious relationships, not just regular visits to have sex. A few of the girls got married to Turkish men and left the business.
Some of the girls I had sex with are staying in apartments where the boyfriends are paying the rent. In this arrangement, boyfriend handles food and room, have free sex from time-to-time and lets the girl make money in places like Irmak.

During slow seasons, it is possible to completely rent a girl for 1000-1500USD for a month. Certainly, there would be additional costs around room and boarding. A girl can make a lot of money but there is also cost.

7-) Nearby restaurants don’t have as many ladies as Irmak and some girls from Irmak are being called up by managers and waiters of these restaurants when a horny customer shows up. The major difference is that these restaurants have arrangements with nearby hotels and make the customer go to these arranged hotels and get a share. So, the customer ends up paying 40M for a hotel which is worth 20M. According to some girls, these hotels are very dirty and are raided by police more often and girls don’t want to go there. At Irmak, there is no such condition and girl can make a selection for a better hotel if the customer agrees. For 50M a night, there are reasonable hotels like Grand Tasciyan, if I’m writing it correctly.

Aslan Kral

[Zinger Burger]

I agree with Vegamars. If you dress nicely and are fairly good looking, opportunities exists to hook with regular turkish babes.

I would recommend Kemanci, Mojos, Hayat Kahvesi (diagonally opp to Mojos) to pick up regular turkish girls. The chances are few however they do exists. I did hooked on to an babe at Hayat Kahvesi that too being an brown asian :-)

[Vegamars]

Your chances as a tourist to hang out with Turkish girls are quite higher,but it's a complete waste of time to monger with a bunch of ugly idiots who think they are unreachable.
Instead you can try to seek regulars from almost every country if you know the right places and occasions.

[Inostranets]

I paid a visit to Irmak earlier on this week, half out of boredom really. Was about 3pm on a weekday so didnt expect much to be going on. As the weather was nice the past week, 20c+ and clear, the chairs were set up outside though at first I sat inside. Were quite a few girls, maybe a total of 10, although some seemed more interested in chatting to each other than anything else. They were all darkish looking, no blondes, and the ones that were talking were doing so in what i guess was romanian. After about an hour I got bored and went outside where a lone russian was sitting. I chatted to her for quite a long time in russian. She told me that all the girls inside were either moldovan or romanians pretending to be moldovan. This goes against what I had read ages ago about a no romanian policy, maybe business is slow at this time of the year? Needless to say I have a preconception that such girls are dirtier than russians and ukrainians so struck a deal with the russian outside. $60 for 2 hours, was alright as we chatted for quite a lot longer anyhow.

As for picking up turkish girls, you would do very well to find a one night stand. Girls in Istanbul are not that impressed simply by the fact that a foreigner is such, as there are so many tourists here at all times of the year, and if you appear like a tourist then your chances are virtually nonexistent. As I have never gone out looking to pull in Istanbul i cant be too certain of my probabilities, however judging from what I see when out with friends, the chances are very low, many places wont even let guys in without a female in the group. That said if you want to try then just check out the sidestreets off Istiklal, or for more stylish places (ie. better looking but possibly stuck up snobby girls) in the summer the clubs down in ortakoy or some of the trendy bars near in levent/etiler.

[Ortos]

Hi Big Bro AJ,

Very informative, thanks.

A question a bit off topic though, if you please:

I notice on another section dealing with Cyprus that one of your posts was deleted by the Admin. What on earth did you write that was so offensive to warrant deletion? Who did you attack? You seem to have informative and important things to say, so I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to read it before they deleted it.

What did you write?

[Big Bro AJ]

Unfortunately there are no brothels like in Nevada or Houston,TX.

I've never forget the great times at Chicken Ranch and Bunny Ranch.

"Genelev's" are very low profile places to have sex. It's a clear and present danger for your health. As a foreigner stay away from those places. Waste of time and money.

Irmak, Seranda and Bacardi are the best places to find eastern european girls to spent joyfull and sinful moments; all three places at Mustafa Kemal Street-Aksaray.
$50-$100 for two hours, $200 all night long; prices are various one girl to another

Seranda is a bar-club, you pick the girls while they are dancing. If you deal, then you take her to the clubs hotel(Hotel Seranda).

Irmak is a resturant-bar-disco mixure, you can talk with the girls, if you deal then take her to your place.

Bacardi is the top spot. Girls gone cost you around $200 for all night long, plus $50 expenses at the club.

It's summer time in Istanbul, as a foreigner you have a change to find freebies(college girls and young women) at the bars around Taksim,Etiler and Bosphorus.

[Priamos]

Lux74,

Connect28 already gave you the address, and I totally agree with him: not worth it! However, if you want to have a look, its very close to the famous Galata tower. Walk from the tower down the increadily steep street toward the Golden Horn (there are two main roads from there - the other one leads to the Taksim). Zurafa Sokak is a short parallel street on your left.

On the issue of "Turks only", the formal answer is yes, no foreigners allowed. The pragmatic answer is, it depends. The entrance is guarded and if there are several policemen hanging around, they'll normally enforce the law for fear of their colleagues. However, if there's only man he may be "persuadable" by means of a little bakshish. I've been there twice. The first time I was turned back, the second time a 10 euros note bought me access. But, again, it wasn't worth it, except perhaps for curiosity value.

[Connect 28]

As a foreigner you don't wanna go to Genelev, unless you have a very strong stomach. Just go to Irmak or Seranda with limited money you will get decent quality girls. The place where the genelev ids called Karakoy and the street name is Zurafa Sokak, but it is not worth the hassle. Trust me.

[Lux74]

Can anyone tell me more about Istanbul's general houses called GENELEV. Which one is the best, and where can I find them.

I've heard that general houses are not so good, and there are many ugly and older girls, but still it can be found young and pretty. Is it true?

Can non turkish enter there, or it's for turks only?

Are there other types of brothels, 'couse i'm not intrested in streetwalkers, or rip offf girls from night clubs where u have to leave houndrets of dollars ,only for drinks before you go with girl in the room.

thanx

[Priamos]

BunnyHopper,

Duly noted. My favorite haunt is the area immediately west of Mustapha Kemal Cad., and that's a bit of a minefield with, I'd say, 60 per cent rip-off traps and 40 per cent "honest" places. I will gladly add a couple of hot tips to your map, AS SOON AS I come back from Istanbul in three weeks' time. My present problem is, I've never bothered to take a note of the names of places I could easily locate in situ. I could therefore add six or seven points to the map even today, but I'd be at a loss regarding their names.

No, let's do it properly: I'll come back from Turkey with enough dots to fill the space between Bacardi and Seranda. That's a promise!

[BunnyHopper]

Priamos

Point noted regarding location of Irmak, you are correct.

I also have one of their business card i got from a waiter. It has a map on the back of the card but that is less clear - i thought about scanning and posting that. The blocks are so small you can't miss it.

I have never loitered around the top end of MKC so never noticed the hookers there - i'll keep my eyes open next time - I am surprised you say they are Turkish bacause all the one i have seen at the bottom end of MKC looked East European to me.

For hookers at the bottom end of MKC, i have been around the area in the afternoon and in the evening and there are lots of them about - so i'd say there is no particluar time to be there.

I posted a picture here last summer called "Aksaray Street Walker 1", I was sitting at the outdoor tables of the restaurant/bar located at the intersection of MKC and Aksaray Cad. It is a typical scene. In the centre of the picture you can see the corner of Langa Cad. Just out of the frame behind the yellow cab, on the right and the other side of the street is Big Pub - another 15 - 20 metres heading right (still on the opposite side of the road), you'd come to Bacardi Club.

On the left of the frame is a tree, many guys were just hanging around there (looking at the girls walk past) cossing the road by the tree you'd come to some trees, say 15 metres to the left. Some girsl there.

The basic point is they don't stand around (like girls in UK for example), these girls are always walking, doing short circuits - they are not too hard to spot.

The way the girl in the red top is dressed is typical i'd say, no mini skirts and fishnets in sight !

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Regarding the map.

It would be good if other readers could add other "Dots" of places they have visited and re-post here: I think 'Cumulative' map would help us all.

(Save the picture to your hard disk, edit and then re-post it)

[Vegamars]

If you're looking for regular places to hook up,you might try Taksim/Beyoðlu area right in the center of town.
Kemancý Bar,Garage,Yaga and James Joyce Irish Bar are worth visiting after 1a.m
The chances of success could be low,but you can never know till you try.