Istanbul

[BunnyHopper]

Priamos

The picture service is back up and I have had a look at the map. Your map is great and I guess will be a WSG equivalent to a Lonely Plant Guide :-) and I am sure many will find it useful.

If others add to this we can now start to put together The Definitive "Cumulative Map" of Istanbul.

Irmak, Bacardi, Serenda are well documented, lets build up a picture in our minds eye of these other places you've listed.

Aksaray is full of these sort of places, but when I walk around there at night (usually alone too) I have always tried to walk with purpose and not look like a lost randy tourist and so couldn't casually stroll down the street looking through windows - but if i was out with a fellow monger or two, I would feel that I could take the time to look a little too.

The SW's are interesting to watch when you have some time to kill, the girl doing circuits with the shopping bags last summer really made me laugh, but i can't imagine that i'd ever pick one up, the activity that i saw were far too open for me and my lack of Turkish language skills to close a deal quickly in public are a let definite let down - I don't fancy being the centre of attention in the street in Aksaray.

I have no plans to visit Turkey at the moment, I have been indulging my hobby locally - but sitting here, writing this, my mind is drifting.... ;-)

I think Autumn may the best time for the next trip there.

[Priamos]

BunnyHopper,

I'm a bit sad that the pic facility has been disabled (I do not for one second believe in the "Chinese link" story), for I had been looking forward to sharing my updated map of the larger Yenikapi area with you.

Well, too bad. I returned from Istanbul yesterday afternoon. I shall spare you any graphic stories about my exploits, but I would like to share a few words of advice with my fellow mongers. First, one should perhaps not (as I did) visit this town during the Easter week. With the seaside resort full of German and English tourists, the bars and discos of Istanbul are low on "talent" because most of the lookers have commuted to Antalya. I found the scene dominated by Uzbek and Kazakh girls -- no offense but they are rarely my first choice. It was also difficult to find a LT service, even when one offered a handsome tip on top of the usual price. This makes little sense from the viewpoint of the working girls who should be willing to agree to any length of contract if the money is right, so I assume it is due to the pressure of bar owners who would be loath to see their showrooms half empty.

I have also looked into the issue of the streetwalkers on Mustapha Kemal street, which intrigued both of us. Apparently the action evolves around a few streets on the left of MK as one walks toward the sea -- in fact the last streets before the railway crossing. Sometimes the girls stray out on the main street (but not too much: they are mostly illegal immigrants) and walk up and down, but it is in the crooked streets around these blocks that they are a fixture. As far as I could make our they are mostly from the southern Balkans (this may also explain why you took them for Russians, and I for Turks). There are also several clandestine brothels in the neighbourhood: I was hanging out there for a couple of hours one afternoon and every now and then an overdressed Slav-looking girl on high heels would disappear into one of those dilapidated residental blocks in which she most definitely did not live.

BUT... this neighbourhood is probably not for us. I took a chance on a Yugoslavian (???) SW and she pulled a complete rip-off on me. Fair enough, these things happen, but unlike most other places I know the locals immediately closed ranks around HER (don't get me wrong: I wasn't aggressive or anything) against ME the outsider. Also, the tricks she was playing were so crude that she would be out of business in a week if the tried them too often. No... no, these girls are there to service the locals at an affordable price and if wealthy Caucasians, such as I, venture into this playground of the common man then we'll get a maximum heat and a minimum sympathy. It's like Whitechapel 1904 and Bronx 1984.

[Priamos]

Dear all,

I'm making good on a promise made to BunnyHopper a few weeks back: here is a more detailed map of the places of entertainment in the larger Yenikapi area of Istanbul. Please note that while I have not included places that I hold to be pure tourist traps, the waiters in some of these bars/clubs/discos are a bit too smart.

Green: Irmak. No further introduction needed.

Blue: Big Pub. A bit seedy, but honest. Girls congregate there from late afternoon. Next to Big Pub in a basement is Ogur Tur. Their action starts a couple of hours earlier, but they have fewer girls and are a bit on the tricky side.

Violet: Bacardi. No further introduction needed.

Red: Ozkan Akgunler. Very seedy, rather tricky, but sometimes offers good-lookers on the bargain rack. Opens early. Surrounded by a few night-time discos which I haven't sampled.

Yellow: Gold Can. My personal favourite. Slightly seedy but honest. Good selection of girls from mid-afternoon. Girls get a bit picky in the evening, as some local bigwigs use it as their haunt.

Orange: Sultan Club. Opens early evening. Clean, correct service and a good selection of girls. Next to SC is Kent Club; more of a classic Turkish music hall, but also with girls.

Azur: Imparator and Cakmak. Classic Aksaray late-night discos with girls around the dancing floor. Didn't sample them specifically; they are arch typical of half a dozen of similar places between their street corner and Serenda.

Black: Serenda. No further introduction needed.

[Novice]

Hi Everybody,

I have been following the excellent posts by Aslan Kral with pleasure. I hope to check out this Hisar Gazino place soon. Meanwhile, i have recently used a hotel called Grand Asiyan near the Irmak Restaurant area and its cleanliness was rather impressive. Its phone number is as follows: 212 518 6290. I am pretty sure there may be a group of high quality girls working at the more luxurious hotels near the Taksim area, but our group has no access there.

I want to know what became of this Kemerburgaz Hotel like place where somebody from the group once went and stayed overnight and it was a great location as per the description. Any follow up on this lead?

Bye for now

[CityDude]

The numbers for Moldavia are surprising - Anyway these Natashas are getting to be a bit sloppy aren't they

[Local Expert]

wow, we got 17 chicks from uruguay here ???? where do they hang around ?
Aslan Kral.... very nice and informative reports !

[Aslan Kral]

I would like to provide some government stats I had seen in a newspaper few days ago. These stats show how many girls have been deported during 2003 and how many of them had STDs. It doesn't say what type of STDs the pros have, but for some countries the ratio is quite high;

Country # STDs # PROs Total # dep STD Ratio

Azerbajcan 28 262 290 %9.6
Germany 0 1 1
Belarussia 1 17 18
Bulgaria 6 16 22 %27.2
Armenia 2 11 13
Georgia 37 206 243 %15.2
Iraq 1 11 12
Kazakistan 1 16 17
Kirgizistan 7 47 54 %12.9
Moldavia 104 354 458 %22.7
Uzbekistan 20 63 83 %24.1
Romania 24 38 62 %38.7
Russia 29 235 264 %11.0
Turkmenistan 12 3 15
Ukraine 65 258 323 %20.1
Uruguay 1 16 17
Serbia 0 2 2

Total 338 1556 1894

Overall STD/deported ratio is around 17.8%. This might be misleading as girls with Turkish ID cards should not be deported.

According to ratios above, Romanians are the worst. Gals from Ukraine, Moldavia and Bulgaria have somewhat similar ratios. Russians seem safer compared to other countries.

Aslan Kral

[Aslan Kral]

I visited Istanbul for 4 days and had sex with several girls, including 2 separate 2-somes.

Stayed in Holiday Inn Istanbul City, slightly cheaper than Topkapi Eresin, but considerably inferior. Registration is a must. They even follow the girl to the elevator and get an identification card. I wouldn't recommend this hotel, instead arrange a room in Topkapi Eresin, still 73.5USD per night inclusive of tax and breakfast.

Friday evening, had a 3-hours 2-some session with Hungarian ladies, but was not satisfied. Taller girl didn't participate actively in a group sex environment. Aggressive one sucked me out, but I always felt that they were somehow reserved in bed when the other gal is around. For example, aggressive one sucked me out quite aggressively in bathroom while showering, but wouldn't provide the same quality in bed when the other one is watching. I always felt that she would allow me to finger her asshole, but wouldn't do it because of other gal. Other problems, they didn't suck my dick together. Fucking required not only a condom change but additional cleaning in bathroom when I changed the girl to fuck. There were still nice moments, fucking one gal, and other gal is foreplaying with you, you touch 2 girls, put their asses side by side, suck them out, etc. I would rate the overall experience 6 out of 10, but I might have had higher expectations. We continued to have sex with the taller one after wards, but I could not still finish.

Saturday, I had sex with a Turkish girl and finished twice. This was my first Turkish pro in my life, so even though I would rate the girl 6 out of ten, I was satisfied at the end. Short brunette, small boobs, but awesome ass which helped me to finish twice within 3 hours, which is now very rare.

One of my previous ladies arranged this gal, who works with phone contacts and referrals only. She mentioned about a contact point and several Turkish gals working under the contact point, but wouldn't give me a phone number. Boy! I would even offer her money to get the number, but didn't ask. At some point, I asked if she could arrange another Turkish gal, but she said no. I guess she wants to make some money before I hop into another girl.

Sunday was the most active and I fucked 5 different gals; 2 Hungarians, One Romanian, One Ukrainian and One Turkish. I felt very tired at the end. I started the day with the Romanian we had sex last week. Then aggressive Hungarian followed. During the experience, I learned that these two ladies would give me a true 2-some experience, so scheduled them for the next day. Then I had a 2-hour session with a new girl, an Ukrainian arranged by another gal. She was quite OK, but couldn't finish. This gal didn't give me a phone number, I could only arrange her calling the other gal who referred this girl. She told me, she was living with a boyfriend who doesn't know that she is in this business and wouldn't take a risk giving her number to customers. We used condom during the entire session(as always), but at some point my penis was touching her pussy without a condom and she didn't show any sign of disapproval. I guess I could fuck her without a condom. Too risky, I will post some government stats and you will realize how dangerous to fuck these gals without a condom. Anyway, she told me she only has sex with her boyfriend without any protection and that was an obvious lie. Very slight penetration would make me fuck her without a condom and she didn't seem bothered. Definetely, I would not want to be the boyfriend, if she is telling me the truth about that part.

I banged the Ukrainian lady for about 2-hours and couldn't finish so I called the Turkish lady. I was sure her ass would help me to finish quickly and it happened as expected. I fucked her ass for about 30 minutes and I was done. I mean, she is not pretty, but great ass for sex.

Later in the night, I called my Hungarian lady and fucked her for hours. That was pretty good, passionate sex at different positions.

Monday morning, after I fucked my Hungarian lady, dismissed her and called the Romanian girl for a 2-some. They came around 5PM, and ordered champagne. When the room service guy entered the room, he seemed slightly puzzled, not shocked, to see one guy and two girls together, apparently before sex. I mean we were not naked, but gals seemed like pros and I am sure he quickly figured that out. Reception guy downstairs was always aware of who is going in and out, and I am sure he might have thought of calling the police if I am in the pimping business. He knew I had sex with 5 gals previous day.

Anyway, after the champagne we started kissing and that was a true 2-some. They sucked me together and were not reserved in any way in bed when the other gal was watching. In fact, they even kissed each other, quite passionately, kissing everywhere except sucking. I mean you see two gals, one is sucking you, and other gal is sucking the nipples of the other gal. Wow! That was like a porn movie and I tought champagne helped them a lot. I asked them if they were lesbos, they said no, but would't mind foreplaying together with another man. They love this type of group sex and did it in a 2-men/2-gals situation. They say, that's the best, because you see another couple is having sex next to you. They even joked that we should offer it to the room service guy. Ha ha ha, order something and lure the guy into bed. They say, Turkish guys are very hungry for sex, finding additional 'yarrak' (a slang for penis) is no problem in Turkey.
I fuck them for 3-hours, we joke and talk most of the time. I can't concentrate to finish. I mean, you are fucking one gal, and joking with the other gal, no way to finish it mentally. Most of the time, I lay down and they do the sucking and fucking. If you need the phone numbers, send me a private message. You can arrange a 2-some session in a hotel room, but they won't be available until the end of the month.

I would rate the Romanian lady as 6, she has nice ass but older, like 35. She gives a true BBBJ, covers the most, sometimes all of the penis. I wouldn't buy her alone but together with the Hungarian. Then everything changes because they truly engage in sex and give you very good sucking/fucking.

Later I had a very good session with other Hungarian lady for hours. In the morning I had to leave for the airport. Now most of the ladies were also leaving this week because of Easter holidays. But they should be soon before the end of the month.

Aslan Kral

[Aslan Kral]

Mongers;

I had posted 2 phone numbers for Hungarian ladies a few days ago. Apparently, they received several calls because of that and connected with a few people in respected hotels.

I should point out that, initially, they only come to an hotel. Later, you can convince them to come to a house. Second, you can do a negotiation with the first one only, if you want to have a 2-some.

Third, they will not be available until the end of the month because of Easter holidays. Most of the gals are returning back to their countries for 2-3 weeks. They will still be expecting calls after that.

I was in Istanbul over the weekend and will post the details soon.

Aslan Kral

[Connect 28]

Catalyst,

There is action although it is limited from lunch time onwards at Irmak.

cheers,

connect

[Catalyst]

So 22:00 to 1:00 is the best time to look for action, but what are other times like? Is there any point in looking during the afternoon, or into the wee hours? (Are the wee hours safe?) Suppose you want to see a few girls in one night - can you get started at 18:00 or 20:00? Or maybe it is more cost effective to find someone for the whole night and convince her to spend a lot of time relaxing in your hotel room.

[Inostranets]

Personally I prefer dirty blondes (hair colour that is) or just plain natural, none of those peroxide jobs that seem popular with the devushki, if you know of or could find a blonde russian/ukrainian with a number that'd be great. Maybe I'll check out Irmak in a week or two, granted when I have been around that area it was always during the daylight hours and thus choice is probably severely limited. Although I wouldnt been too inclined to lurk around aksaray alone after dark, maybe it is not as bad as I imagine.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please use a capital "I" to refer to yourself in future reports. Thanks!

[Connect 28]

K_rat,

Taksim is 10 min. cab ride to Aksaray. There are several night clubs and bars around Taksim, but with 90% probability you will get ripped off in those palces. Just take a cab and go to Aksaray and if you want to spend around US$200 go to Bacardi, if you want to spend less go to Irmak.

Good luck

[Vegamars]

The truth is that the girls who don't have Turkish citizenship have a higher chance of being collected by the police and a very low chance of being able to come back without being deported.Moreover,they can stay as long as they wish as compared to the max visa peirod of 2months for the non-citizens,so most are willing to pay a couple of thousand dollars for the papers.It's also evident that the police can never enter or interfere with the top clubs like Bacardi.
There's nothing easier than finding blondes in Istanbul.The best time to search for the best girls for all places including Irmak and Bacardi is between 10p.m and 1a.m on Wednesday,Friday and Saturday.

[Aslan Kral]

Inostranets,

As far as I understand, police collects all ladies in such places regardless of citizenship. If a foreign pro has Turkish citizenship, it doesn't help, as it wouldn't help regular Turkish pros.

Again, my understanding is that prostitution outside of Genelevs is illegal, Turkish or foreigner. For example, the state can't get any income from these activities as no one submits any tax forms or these foreigners don't have any work permit in Turkey. However, the police does not force the law on Aksaray girls or shemales around Taksim area. The major goal is just to make sure that sick girls are identified as soon as possible and deported.

Regarding Irmak scene, I had seen about 15-20 girls in the smaller section when I visited on a Sunday evening between 7-8PM. Most of them were waiting for the disco section to open.

I myself don't prefer a blonde, but you could try other places like Seranda, Big Pub and Bacardi. BunnyHopper had provided a map for the locations 1-2 weeks ago. For Irmak, go there after 8 and may be even try disco section after 11. I was there three times, and Sunday evening was the best.

Anyway, I will ask for a blonde, but can you give me more info about a 'blonde' that you are looking for? For instance, how much 'blonde' she should be?

Aslan Kral