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02-06-08 21:09 #2519
Posts: 336Originally Posted by Big Bro AJ
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02-06-08 10:48 #2518
Posts: 962What is your point then?
Originally Posted by Priamos
I like Istanbul, Turkey and the Turks. I do not find it expensive compared to other destinations. Istanbul has quite a bit to offer, reasonable hotel rates, good restaurants, great shopping and sightseeing, and probably one of the most friendly, open attitudes you can find.
I do not monger in a traditional sense in IST, but do visit two or three times a year with my CIS girlfriend for a week of fun and tourism.
As BBAJ pointed out, you can find women, in Istanbul, or anywhere for that matter at many different price points, it is up to you and what you want.
My advice is, that if you don´t like it, don´t go there. I will be smiling either way.
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02-06-08 10:47 #2517
Posts: 25Dxb
Originally Posted by Priamos
I'll visit Dubai next week, can you give me hints about the town and WG's bars , their forum is not supportive and they give wrong info to the beginners and visitors.
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02-06-08 10:22 #2516
Posts: 703Priamos
My dear friend.
It’s always pleasure to read the interesting comments of foreigners about Istanbul scene and their precious opinions about Turkey.
I have never been to Dubai (where all western people show their hypocritical faces. So called democracy lovers prefer not to see the slavery-women trafficking and anti democratic regime) and Far East Asia (where western child molesters look for young boys and girls).
But, I lived and mongered in States, and mongered in some of the EU states and Russia. Therefore, I am aware of the general market prices and what are possible in different cities.
It is a fact that in a way Turkey is a conservative country. Sex before marriage is a taboo and the families hardly accepted. On the other hand, men want their wife virgin but as experienced as a WG. This is a dilemma that most of the Turks live.
Turkey has a young population. Economic and social factors affect mongers life and expectations. Most of the men want cheap sex. They don’t care hygiene, motions, SD and etc. It’s that simple.
On the other hand, there are some men (like me) who are after enjoyable moments. They don’t want plain sex, skin and mind connection is also important for them.
Istanbul is an open city. There is huge collection of women in sex business. Africans, Turks, Russians and CIS citizens, Asians….Additionally TVs and TSs.
There are many factors trigger the prices. There are Turkish women do sex for 50 YTL, there are Turkish women do sex not less than 500 YTL. Likewise, prices for EE women are in range of $75-300. There are always hidden expenses and commissions.
Even those WGs in Zurich and elsewhere pay somebody to stay there and work. If you are interested in street action than no need to discuss anymore. You may easily find cheaper options in Beyazıt, Aksaray, Taksim, Tarlabası, Harbiye, Topkapı, Bakırkoy, Suadiye and else…
As I mentioned hundreds times, quality of the service and her beauty set off the price. I don’t pay 300 Euro to those “so called” agency girls but I pay $200 for all night to an independent girl whom never worked in Aksaray and that doesn’t bother me.
WTF…Nobody force any one to spend those figures. I am sick of hearing Istanbul is an expensive city and women in town don’t deserve these rates. Than don’t monger in Istanbul,
GO some where else.
Have you ever been to London, NY or Moscow? The prices are much higher than Istanbul. Accepted or not Istanbul is a sort of World city and these are the rates. If you don’t want to pay than continue to play with your joystick.
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02-06-08 07:41 #2515
Posts: 336Originally Posted by Sporadic
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02-05-08 21:59 #2514
Posts: 962Try the Gulf
Originally Posted by Priamos
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02-05-08 19:41 #2513
Posts: 336Originally Posted by Tony Gables
Originally Posted by Tony Gables
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02-05-08 16:10 #2512
Posts: 12Originally Posted by Priamos
Considering these facts one should not be surprised that the prices for sex are much higher than Bulgaria or Romania, which seem to be in the same economical level as Turkey.
Also Turkish society is very conservative in most aspects including sexuality.
Even in big cities there are still a lot of women that don't have sex before marriage and extramarital sex is considered a bad thing my many people. Most of the young male population is frustrated due to the limited access to sex. Many decent bars/night clubs don't even admit guys without a female company, due to their aggressive and annoying behavior towards women inside.
If you noticed 95% of the sex workers in Turkey are from other countries. In Bulgaria or Romania you will mostly find local girls for no more than $100. Even free one night stands are more likely to happen in these countries because of the open-minded nature of the population.
Less supply means more demand and higher prices, hence the situation in Turkey. There's a businessman I know who paid $20,000 for a Moldovan girl for a week, who would otherwise be his slave for a pair of shoes back in her country.
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02-05-08 14:31 #2511
Posts: 1Hi everyone
I bored to try escort sites, fake pictures and half ton womans.
I have a pezevenk (Mamasan). Price is 200-250 ytl overnight.
But the girls ara avarage. I am looking for a girl reals exy and serve CIM.
If you know anyne like his. We can change our contacts.
Regards
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02-05-08 09:09 #2510
Posts: 6Market Forces
Dear Friends,
Please allow me some words.
Pussy is a commodity and as such is driven by market forces, in Turkey pussy is expansive just because the demand is much bigger than teh supply, whereas in Russia is cheaper because supply i.e. women are more than demand.
Nothing to do with GDP, nor with being poor, nor with being rich.
With Best Regards
Originally Posted by Priamos
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02-05-08 09:05 #2509
Posts: 82Originally Posted by Mars Udon
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02-05-08 08:53 #2508
Posts: 82Originally Posted by Tom Jones Diary
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02-05-08 08:10 #2507
Posts: 336Originally Posted by Big Bro AJ
BigBro, you remind me a bit of a discussion I had many years ago with a particularly chauvinistic Russian lady. (No, not a working girl: the sister in law of a friend of mine.) I was quietly musing that hotels in Moscow now were more expensive than in London and Paris. She immediately fired up: "And why should Russia be cheaper!?" Well, I retorted, because an average salary in Russia is one sixth of the levels of Britain and France, and the property prices are also much lower (well, they were then!), so someone must be scoring an inordinate profit. This thought seemed to please her: "So, foreigners want to come here? They pay extra to real Russian people. That's the way it should be!" End of discussion.
Turkey is, still, a rather cheap country. So, you'd expect prices on "basic service" that are massively beneath Paris and London levels. And that is what you get if you go to, say, Sofia or Bucharest. But not, apparently, Istanbul. And you, BigBro, seem to find this normal? Or derive pleasure from it?
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02-05-08 07:43 #2506
Posts: 703I wonder which galaxy some friends live? ıf you monger in EU, 250Euro is what you suppose to pay. So it is nonsense to make arguments on Istanbul prices whether the scene or the girls worth it or not.
Who do hell are you to judge my city. Prices depand on girls beuaty and the quality of her services. The prices various from $100-300 for 2 hours. Plus hidden expenses.
It is easy to talk for a stranger. He sits in his room, get in touch with couple of girls, he even tries to negotiate the price. Girls acompanies him at his room and still talking about the prices and else. WTF
This is it, whether you accept it or continue to play with your joystick.
If you pick a girl from Aksaray scene, you have to book a room in a hotel. You already arranged before hand or she will direct you to the one she knows.
If you meet a visiting escort, you have two options. 1-She does incall so you go to her hotel room. 2-She does only outcalls to hotels, than you have to arrange a hotel room and meet the girl.
If you meet an independent girl or a mamushka girl, than you have to arrange the place. Cause none of them does incall. And again you have to pay the hotel.
Comparing Greek scene with Istanbul scene is an insult. Those boy lovers only get the garbage. Istanbul is one of the important cities in women trafficking. This is nothing to proud of but Turkey most of the time gets the "cook portions" the best possible girls.
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02-04-08 23:10 #2505
Posts: 41Collective Organization
Originally Posted by Mars Udon
A situation in which everyone (in a given group) has a choice between two alternatives and where, if everyone involved chooses the alternative act that is Individualistically Rational (IR), the outcome will be worse for everyone involved, in their own estimation, than it would be if they were all to choose the other alternative (I. E. , than it would be if they were all to choose the alternative that is not IR).
In a Collective Action Problem:
(1) Consider only the outcomes in which everyone does the same thing;
(2) Define Cooperation as the alternative that would produce the best outcome (in everyone's estimation) from among the outcomes in which everyone does the same thing;
(3) Choose to Cooperate, if you have reason to believe that enough others (e. G. , most others) are also willing to Cooperate.
FREERIDING. In a Collective Action Problem in which most agents choose to Cooperate, Defectors are referred to as FREERIDERS, because they benefit from the Cooperation of others, but are unwilling to reciprocate Cooperation
I think in this instance I'll try to freeride on your efforts.