Istanbul

[Connect 28]

no_commit,

I'll be in Istanbul early part of next week. Would you mind sharing the tel no. of Valentina? How does she look like. How much does she cost? My e-mail connect_28@yahoo.com

Appreciate for the help.

[No_Commit]

July 12th, 2003 (anticlimax)
Tina woke me up at 8.30 and she dashed off home. She was going to the beach for the day. I slept for a little while longer and had breakfast with BH comparing notes. We then went to Galleria to have a look around. After having tea, we wondered down to the department store and checked out the Turkish girls. Some were really nice looking with excellent bottoms. As I was planning to continue my mongering trip in Ankara with LE the next day and the girls on offer are mostly Turkish, the cosmetics girls wet my appetite.
We went back to the hotel, and sat with BH while I finished off packing, and to my nice surprise found out we were on the same flight to Ankara together with LE. I met him at the airport bar and we went off to our separate ways once we reached Ankara with a promise to get together the following evening for another boy's night out. That will be posted on the Ankara board shortly.

Findings:
1) Bacardi is definitely an upmarket joint BUT not my cup of tea. Paying USD 200 for a girl and USD 100 for the bar tab is unacceptable in my standards. I am not a cheap Charlie but USD 300 is simply way too expensive and not worthwhile, as alternatives do exist.
2) Serenda was a huge let down. Girl quality and availability is under par. And the fact that they do not accompany you to your own hotel is down right inconvenient.
3) Smaller clubs lack the quality and always hit and miss.
4) My favorite place is the Irmak area. Girls are friendly especially during daytime and very accommodating. My advice is get there at 8 or 9 and book for the whole night while in Istanbul. If you have the time do it at 5 or 6. And if you don't see someone you like just hang around and be patient.

Overall, I had a great time while being there. Both BH and LE are great guys and I will be looking forward to meeting up with them again.
Cheers…
NC

[No_Commit]

july 11th, 2003 (d-day)
we woke up at around 8.30 in the morning and she said she had to be back home and dashed away. i was a bit disappointed not to get my morning sex and was left alone with a huge boner in my jocks. i don't know about you guys but i think i enjoy the morning sex better than an night one. anyway, after she left, i hung around the hotel for an hour or so and then went off to town for taking care of some personal business myself.
i was back in the hotel at about 2 pm. i was exhausted so i had my late lunch and had an afternoon nap thinking it would be a heavy night with my much anticipated get together with le, bh and cossack. i called up valentina and told her that i was to meet my friend at about 4 pm and take him to irmak to show him around. i told her i would pick her up on the way back to the hotel if bh also picked someone at irmak.
at about 15.30 i borrowed the phone charger again to juice up my batteries and took it back at about 4 pm. at which time, bunnyhopper was sending me messages to coordinate our get together. we hooked up at 4.10 or so, and i knew immediately this was going to be a good mongering event. i have met with few mongers from the forum and all turned out to be great people. anyway, after a short stopover at the crowne plaza, we headed straight to aksaray to the infamous irmak. we initially scouted that street but found out most girls were resident at irmak. we took up a table outside and ordered a beer for me and a coke for bh together with some calamaris to nibble on. i love calamaris but i am afraid neither bh nor her girlfriend liked them too much. i ended up eating it all. after a chat, and some encouragement, bh wanted to call up on this moldavian chick (luba) and the waiters asked us to move on inside. at that stage we freshened up our drinks and the girl asked for a whisky & coke (not vodka if my memory serves me right). as luba was conversational with neither turkish nor english, i thought perhaps valentina could help us with the deal. i recall bh asking her whether she was available for a few hours and she was mumbling no. i called up valentina and asked her to go between. at that time i had not realized valentina was living with her mom and apparently she was not aware of tina's profession. tina was reluctant to explain in russian so asked luba to call for another girl who spoke turkish. she did the trick and everything was settled. this intermediary girl (must be early 40's with a big momma look) asked for an advance payment of 80 million (usd 60) and i payed up on behalf of bh. we waited for tina to get prepared while we finished up our drinks. i called for the bill and if my memory is not failing me it was about 45 million inclusive of tips (a million or two each for every tom, dick and harry who happened to be there).
once tina was ready, we had a short walk to the main road and caught a cab. on the way to picking up tina, bh said he might need more time and asked me to call le to postpone our appointment to 21 instead of 20. le was hungry and to be fair to him i did not change the time thinking if bh needed more time i could always accompany le for a dinner while bh got rid of her load with this moldavian chick (she had gigantic hands!).
we arrived at the hotel and went to our rooms separately. when i was alone with tina we chatted for an hour or so drinking a couple of beers. it was bizarre, she was treating me as if i was her boyfriend and i was reciprocating. at about 7.30, i called up on bh to see how he was progressing and he confirmed he was going to be available little past 8. i invited them to my room for beers at 8. at that time, we got undressed for a quickie before 8 and finished up missionary passionately. just before 8, i went downstairs to meet up with le and with cossack if he showed up. until that time, there was no word from him so i did not really know what to expect. le was right on time and i took him to my room. cossack never showed up.
the beer arrived a minute after we did along with bh. after a brief chat while the beers lasted, we decided to head off for a dinner. as luba was only a few days old in istanbul i had promised to take her back where we picked her up. we all called for a cab and was in aksaray quite fast but the last few hundred meters was a complete jam which took more than the time it had taken from atakoy to there. we left luba at irmak and i couldn't help notice the crowd. the place was packed with girls ranging from 4 to 8 or 9.
we had our dinner at a corner restaurant with mezes and i followed up on with a lamb roast which was a bit dry but still very tasty. le and i went for raki while bh stuck with cokes. after finishing up my glass i realized i was feeling dizzy already (remember this is after 2 beers in irmak, another 2 in my room and 1 when everyone got together-and i was in no condition to drink anyway). so i decided to stop drinking anything with alcohol and switched to bubbly water.
our first stop was bacardi. the place is definitely the most upmarket joint we have visited that night. the décor actually looks like a nightclub and not a seedy joint. the music is listenable, and the girls are much better looking. we were shown a nice table overlooking the dance floor. we scouted a while of the local talent while having our drinks (this point onwards standard round of drinks includes a coke for bh, a mineral water for me and a beer for le together with "obligatory" mezes). we decided to move on after having finished up our drinks. the damage was 40 million.
next stop was serenda if i am not mistaken. on the way to serenda, we had a look into one of the smaller bars on the same small street as serenda. i can't remember the places name. but le was in front of me walking down the stairs and he turned around after having a peek inside. i never even had a chance to see what was available. having met and trust le's taste now, i can say with great confidence that it was crap. the cover charge in serenda was 20 million each which includes the first drink and the initiation mezes. the place was almost full with mongers and there were about 15 girls hanging about (none dancing). i gave up my seat to le, which at least faced the dance floor since i already had someone waiting for me in my room. after a while, some show started with a couple of girls doing a mediocre job (coming from asia and being a veteran of go-go bars, i can assure you this can only be classified as crap). we decided to move on to other bars.
at this point we popped our heads in sikago2000 (not chicago2000), and there was live music with unbearable sounds. we decided not to sit and funny enough one of the waiters having understood what put us off (or at least me) said the live music was about to finish in 5 minutes. the place looked like any other seedy bar around the world and i saw 5-10 blonde girls from a distance and cannot comment on their quality.
we headed up back to bacardi back again and took a similar quality table. it was about midnight at this stage and things were not looking up for my fellow le and bh (believe me knowing valentina waiting for me in my room was priceless at this stage-lol). le and bh was up at the dance floor scouting when i decided on this russian (olga) who had a very nice body (although a bit short) and a nice smiling face. what prompted my attention was that she was putting her best into her dancing while she was on stage and not just swaying around like some of the girls were. i always respect a woman who does her best whatever she does even as a prostitute. so i called her up to our table and wanted to see if she was willing to go for a sandwich action with valentina. olga said she did not know her and would not be willing so i released her. at that point bh was still having a dance with a beauty and le said he wanted to move on alone. we asked for the bill and it was 120 million including tip!!! damn expensive and the incremental drink to our first visit was olga's whisky. le went back to serenda and i hung around while bh picked someone up as we were going to share a taxi back home anyway.
bh had not made his mind up and asked me whether olga was available. we called her up again and bh striked up his deal in a nano second. on the way out, i had major trouble catching up with bh and olga as this waiter wanted more tips and he was not very subtle with his method either. anyway, i managed to catch up with bh without any additional cost.
one thing that amazed me was olga's comfort with us. remember only half an hour ago, i tried to get her for a sandwich action to my hotel and she refused. now she was leaving the club with bh and me in the same taxi on the way to the same hotel and she was ok with that. if it was me i would have been very suspicious but hey that's me. once we were at the hotel, we split up and i went upstairs only to find tina sleeping. it took me a good part of 5 minutes waiting at the door. anyway once i was inside, i took a shower and cuddled up next to valentina in the bed. i woke her up again and shagged her like there is no tomorrow. i had her twice and first was finished up doggy and her riding on me finished off the second. that was the best sex of the whole weekend. i was steaming horny from all those girls in the bacardi and tina was too damn accommodating. even writing this fr gives me a hard on. yummy!
i must have passed out from exhaustion.

[No_Commit]

I now see that I am the last of the "three wise men" to post a field report on our outings in Istanbul and Ankara last weekend. Here it goes:

July 10th, 2003 (a day before the agreed appointment date):
Due to unforeseen circumstances, I decided to get to Istanbul from London a day before my plans. Because of the school holidays, changing my reservation was pretty difficult. I was on the waiting list for 3 different flights leaving London on the 10th and I was confirmed on the 11.45 THY (must stand for They Hate You) flight finally on the same morning. The flight was a bit delayed but arrived at the airport safe and sound at around 18.30. I was rushing to catch the shuttle to the hotel but managed to get it in the nick of time. This shuttle service is another great thing for the Holiday Inn. My reservation was made for the 11th at the hotel and they said they were fully booked. So for an additional USD 25 I upgraded myself to an executive room, which turned out to be a very wise decision. Inclusive of all taxes, I paid USD 85 for a night including breakfast, which is about USD 15 anyway. The room was great with a big bed and a small sitting area overlooking the marina and the sea. Fantastic views. The room and the hotel come with a great recommendation from my side. The disadvantage is that you have to get taxis to go anywhere, as Atakoy is almost a suburb to Istanbul proper. The fare to Aksaray is about 9 million TL (about USD 6 at the time of our visit) during daytime and 15 million TL (about USD 10) at night.
After getting to the hotel and settling in my new home for the next few days, I went downstairs to the reception to see whether they had an Ericsson phone charger. I lost my 6th this year so far in UK! Luckily, there are loads of travelers like me and I managed to borrow someone else's who left his in the hotel. This all took less than 35 min including travel time from the airport and I was on the phone to Valentina by 19.05 arranging my evening. You can't beat that.
If you have read my previous report 2 weeks earlier I met Valentina in Irmak during my one night stay on the way to UK. She had my number and tried to contact me while I was in a meeting and wanted to meet up with me on my way back. I told her I was in earlier than planned and was alone. She said she was on her way and asked me to wait for her at the lobby. I went downstairs in about 10 minutes but instead of the lobby waited for her at the Anchor Bar, which is just next to the hotel, and right at the entrance to the block where my room was. Before I finished my second drink, she was already at my table and the time was about 19.30. We chatted for a while, she had a drink as well (peach juice-not vodka!) and we headed for my room.
Valentina is not a stunner. She has very nice eyes and a nice body with a proper hourglass shape at the hips. Her tits are not gravity challenged but not that big (anything bigger than your palm is a waste anyway). However, she could lose a few pounds. She is 30 and has a kid but no stretch marks. I guess she can qualify a 7 on my scale (depending on my mood and how much I drank LOL). The great thing about her was her attitude and friendliness. I value attitude more than looks and you will read that in my Ankara episode later. Another thing worthwhile mentioning is how smooth and soft her skin is. Simply amazing.
We spent an hour simply kissing and fondling on the couch and then moved on to the bed. Due to my personal circumstances at the time, only position I was comfortable with was when she was on top of me. I believe she came before me and the whole session felt like as if we were two lovers meeting up after a long time. She was really into it but I have to add that her BJ technique can be improved but she did it BB.
At about 21.30 we washed up and I took her to the movies in the Galleria complex to see Charlie's Angels. Apparently, it was her first time in Turkey (7 months) and although the movie can simply be classified as shite, we had a blast laughing. At about half past midnight, we were back in our den and hungry as wolves. We ordered room service and ate up on the balcony watching the sea and the boats go by. She had a calamari salad and sea bass with a fruit platter (big enough for an army), and I had smoked salmon, mixed grill platter (which was nothing to shout about) and a Turkish dessert. The bill was slightly less than 60 million (USD 40), which I thought was a bargain considering what we paid for a beer in the bars we visited.
We went to bed quite late and had another shag. Initially, we cuddled up and I thought we were going to sleep but then I kissed her once and she kissed on so it turned out to be a full on shagging session.
As I had a disappointing evening 2 weeks prior (again see my report), after the movies I brokered a 2 day deal with Valentina as my fall back option during the weekend. I paid her USD 50 for the afternoon that day and paid her another USD 150 for the next 2 days. I must have failed to mention that to LE and BH while we were together, so the overall cost was slightly higher but still a worthwhile arrangement in my opinion. I also tipped her on my last morning so she costed me USD 250 altogether.

[SkmSteve]

Got back from Istanbul last week. I Went to the Demirkoy hotel. It was better to go there late as more girls arrive after 11pm, and there were some very nice Turkish ladies. The one I wanted to go with was already occupied .I ended up going with a Natasha for the night for $100 . I do not remember her name, but she was about 5,10 , blond and slim.

On my second night I went to the Barcardi club. I tipped the waiter and he got me a seat at the front next to the stage. He spoke English, and told me the form, and suggested I just tell him which girl I liked and he would call her over. I ended up going with a tall blond for what I thought was the night for $200. She bailed out after 3 hours. Barcardi was good for the visual therapy, but to professional for me. May be it was just my luck. The girl from Barcardi wanted $100 for photos, I just showed her the door.

Rgd's all

Steve

[Stockbroker]

Hey guys thx for sharing your weekend stories.
That "weekend,summer,south" story is partialy true.
As a native citizen i never go out at weekends for hunting as i warned you before.
And i never spent time in crap bars,i always directly go to Bacardi.
Because when you hang around you spent more than just paying for a Bacardi girl..pay this pay that take a cab,tip him tip that ...
as a result you pay more than Bacardi.
Most of the girls went southern Turkey or to their own countries
they always come back by the snow season in Russia or by the rain season in South Turkey..

next time i will try Holiday inn hotel..it sounds good for price and seperate entrance..
good luck everybody..
stockbroker

[Connect 28]

BH, LE and NC

Thanks for the reports. I feel sorry that I missed the opportunity of hanging around with you guys. Hopefully next time. In your opinion is Irmak best set up after Bacardi to get quality girls in terms of value? I understand that that I am not the only one who thinks Seranda girls have an attitude problem. Is Valentina good value for money and does she do anal?

Connect

[BunnyHopper]

DAY 2:

Both LE and NoC were heading off to Ankara today leaving me to my own devices!

In the morning, NoC and I went to Galleria, had tea, settled my tab and looked around. We went to quite an expense cosmetics shop¡K.window shopping! Not for perfumes¡K we were looking the cosmetics girls !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also bought a couple bought of wine from a supermarket there thinking about my overnight guest!

INHO, Turkish girls are gorgeous. !!

Around midday I had a last beer with NoC and took Valentina¡¦s number thinking if all else fails I could call her in the evening.

At around one o¡¦clock I was back at Irmak. I had a couple of teas and watched the girls. There were 3 or 4 there. But nothing that I fancied. The other restaurants next to Irmak had no girls present at that time. So I went for a wander round some of the back streets to see if I stumbled across any interesting places and saw quite a bit of Aksaray.

I took two picture of the Irmak. One whilst seated the other as I walked way. Again the quality/resolution of the pictures are not very good. But you can see the general scene.

Through the middle of Aksaray is a dual carriage way/main road. On one side of this main road are places like Serenda, Bacardi and Big Pub (mentioned previously on the WSG) ¡V this part of Aksaray is a relative dump. Quite backstreets, the sort of place that would make you cautious at night.

On the other side of Aksaray is Irmak and the regular shops, bars, restaurants¡K.etc.

I was feeling hungry now and wanted to have my afternoon meal. I stopped at a restaurant. Imagine you are in Big Pub and you step out side. Across the road you see a fork in the road and a row of phone booths to the right next to the Fork along with public toilets.

In the middle of this fork is a restaurant. I stopped there as they had tables outside and had a meal (regular prices) and a few beers and Turkish Tea!

When sitting at this place a saw the street action that goes on in Aksaray ¡V there is a lot of it!

Outside this restaurant there are many people just standing around, passing time I guess. And there are many girls. The girls don¡¦t stand on the corner, they are constantly walking about. Perhaps doing a circuit every 10 minutes or so. At first it was hard to spot them, and then it became easier.

There were allsorts. Some really hot girls and others were 40 year olds !!!!

The girls would just walk around, and the Turkish men would just walk along side them and talk. It they struck a deal they all seemed to wonder off in the same direction. I guess a near by hotel or something. I tried to follow one girl; she seemed to look at me then head up aside street. I was curious were there were all going to. I did not follow further as I guess I did not fancy fucking her.

I spent I guess 2 hours at this restaurant, eating, drink, watching the Turkish Mongers at work and taking pictures with my phone.

I was amazed at how open all this is. There are police officers near by (and a police station on the main road half way between Bacardi and Sikago2000), normal people, men, women and families al walking by, completely oblivious to what is happening.

There were allsorts of Turkish guys, ranging from the Maganda type to the business man in a suit to the 16 year old lads trying to lose their cherries!!!

There was one girl that really made me smile. She looks like a normal girl. Little bit of make up, white blouse, an ankle length floral print dress carrying SHOPPING BAGS!

(You know the paper bags with a boutiques name on the side)

The first time I saw her, I just thought pretty Turkish girl. But she was doing circuits and it soon became apparent what she was up to. I couldn¡¦t believe it SHOPPING BAGS!!! What was in those bags I have no idea.

Other girls were wearing very tight jeans and trousers and looked much like the girls in Serenda.

I had now managed to kill a few hours, my belly was full and I wanted to see if the availability at Irmak had improved to wandered back there.

Sat down and looked around. There were more girls there. One caught my eye, very pretty face. I waited until she got up and walked around so I could see her body. She was OK and I thought I¡¦ll have her.

She knew I was looking at her and she tried to catch my eyes a few time. Eventually I let her connect and smiled and beckoned her with my hand over to my table.

She came over and we tried to talk. She spoke almost no English at all and I thought I how am I gonna close this deal ? Her name was Tanya.

She called over one of the waiters from Irmak who spoke English and he acted like a translator.

At first she offered USD50 for 2 hours at a local hotel. I think the Dogan Hotel ???

But I wanted her till the early evening and I wanted to go to the Holiday Inn.

We agreed USD100 for her to accompany be back to the Holiday Inn. She was weary of this and she insisted that she call the cab. That made me very nervous. I tried to insist with the waiter that I flag down a random cab on the main road. But he the girl would otherwise not go. So agreed ¡V and waiting nervously for about 15 mins for the cab to come.

All the negotiations were through the waiter. I paid the drinks bill, I can¡¦t remember how much, but it was fair and the waiter didn¡¦t feel the need for a Tip !!!!.

His name was Sukru (spelling ???)

When it did arrive, it was an old guy driving the cab she seemed to know him and the route he took back to the Inn was familiar. So felt Ok my now.

Back the hotel, no problems getting to my room (separate entrance to residential blocks).

Went in and I thought I am gonna be here with here for 4 or 5 hours so I take my time.

I gave her the room service list and she fancied pizza which I ordered. She also had Vodka from the minibar (have you noticed a trend yet? - they all drink Vodka ! I thought girls drink wine ļ)

We ate, drank vodka and wine for a while, then had shower and then hit the bed.

I took a few phone-camera pictures of her. They don¡¦t do her justice to be truthful.

She was just as good as the other girl from Irmak, Oluiba, and gave a GFE experience and I was satisfied. Did not do a BJ during round one though. (Oluiba did not do BJ either ¡V I guess I could have encouraged her more and she may have done it)

(In my mind this made some of my previous forays at Serenda look rather mechanical with hindsight)

We did it a couple more times, intermingled with bites of pizza, gulps of wine and vodka and trips to the shower and watching Jennifer Lopez shake her ass on MTV! At around 6:30 she called the cab and left at around 7:00 when it arrived.

I asked her to stay on until the morning and offered her a further USD100. She gestured she could and that ¡§mama-san¡¨ would get rough (making a fist a pointing at her face) with her unless she went back. I said to her that I may go to Irmak again at around 8:00 or 9:00 pm that evening.

Her cab arrived and she left in rush leaving her mobile. When I realised she had already left and I went outside thinking she may still be there. I waited a few minutes and she called her own mobile as I was standing outside. The cab came back and I laughed at her and handed her the mobile back. I caught a glimpse of the ¡§mama-san¡¨ sitting in the front passenger seat. Dark skinned woman, maybe Turkish in 40¡¦s maybe 50¡¦s same cab driver.

I went back inside, relaxed for a while and then changed and washed and got a cab back to Aksaray at about 9:00 pm.

I went straight to Irmak and WOW!

There were so many girls there outside Irmak. And now also outside the other restaurants along side Irmak.

Also there is a hotel opposite Irmak called Bosper Hotel (spelling). They too have tables outside with many hot girls and I also noticed many going in and out of the hotel.

Could this be another Serenda type hotel? It needs a Turkish speaking local to volunteer to go an investigate Bosper further.

At my table I had a coke and watch for a while. I was impressed with the girls and the joint (given that I was not inside a night club or bar).

I watched many guys strike deals and walk up the street in the same direction (the direction) Many Bacardi and Serenda quality girls here.

I spotted Tanya again and she smiled at me over 2 or 3 rows of people. She called my mobile a few time from her table and the eventually walked over pecked me on the check and walked back to her table. I thought, now that I am here, I may as well try another girl tonight.

The waiter Sukru was there again. I shook his hand and he asked me how was the girl and I said perfect and he nodded approvingly.

I noticed a sign next to the restaurant that said Irmak Disco. I asked him what time it opens and if it was any good. He said that it kicks off around 11:00pm and that there were many girls there. He said no entrance fee and the drink are around 2 ¡V 3 million for coke or beer.

I said I would return later. He told me to ask for him by name when I returned.

I went back to the restaurant were I had lunch and watched the goings on in the street again ¡V including a big road traffic accident ! Not surprised the way they drive in Istanbul!

Some girls still walking about.

Had a few drinks and this time started chatting to the waiter that served me in the afternoon. I didn¡¦t realise he spoke English.

I had some time to kill before I went back to Irmak so I thought I would go to Bacardi and have a coke ¡V window shop for a while (still toying with the idea of another Bacardi girl !).

I sat at the Bar had a coke and watched for about half an hour. I saw Olga again, dressed the same and seated at the same table. I tried to catch her eye but as I was seated behind her, I did not.

I also saw ¡§The Red Rock¡¨ there again (LE and NoC will know what I mean) !!!

I asked for the bill and the waiter behind the bar told me to relax and stay ¡V I started to worrying, a minute later I asked again and waited more, but still no bill.

Eventually, I understood the delay. The waiter I had asked the bill for was not the one that served me. When the one that did serve came back to the bar, they spoke and he returned with the bill. 17million for a coke ! I gave 20million and walked off.

At Irmak, met Sukru outside, he led me to set of stairs next to the restaurant going up. Irmak Disco was at the top of the stairs. Halfway up the stairs is another disco, and as I walked up the guy from this disco beckoned me in. Sukru said something to him and I walked pass him up to Irmak Disco. Sukru handed me (if this is the right words) to a waiter in Irmak.

I was not impressed. Just two girls at the time 11:30pm ish and maybe ten guys. A few guys dancing but most guys drink quietly by themselves.

Many girls did wonder in for a few minutes and wander back out. I guess most were still seated at the restaurants down below.

By around 1:00pm the place was OK. There were at least 3 girls in there, that based on the looks and body, I would have been happy with. But I waited; I wanted to see more choice.

I little while later, I noticed Oluiba wander in, sit down for literally one minute then wander back out again.

A little latter further Tanya wondered in and I caught her eye and beckoned her over with my hand.

In this place I guess you are free to walk around and chat to the girls ¡V I think they are independent)

I asked Tanya how much for the night and if she would come back to the inn again.

She wrote on a napkin USD80 and gestured she would sleep and pointed at my watch indicating 9 ¡V 10 am.

She ordered a drink, vodka and coke I think and we sat for a while.

She was in the mood to dance and went onto the dance (about the size of Serenda) and boogied with her girlfriends for a while.

Eventually she indicated she felt hot and I suggested we leave.

I asked for the bill and was asked Lira or Dollars? I replied Lira. He said 50 million. I could have protested and called Sukru, but instead I paid the 50mill with no separate tip to the waiter and we walked down stairs flagged a cab and head to the Inn again.

When in the room, we drank a little had shower and then did the deed. Still every bit as motivated a before and seemed to take delight in watching me have an orgasm.

We stayed up a bit, did more stuff, before killing the lights a sleeping till the morning.

Was rudely woken up by the mama-san in the middle of the night. Tanya was still asleep and so ended the call on her mobile.

It did ring again.

But was woken up again by the mama san at round 7:00 am. Both I and Tanya seemed annoyed. She was still in daze half sleepy state. I asked her to stay until after breakfast, but again she gestured they would rough her up unless she complied, which I believed her to be honest, I had no doubt she would like to have stayed (I guess she felt ok with me on the second trip to the Inn).

I called reception and got her a cab and she left and I slept for another hour or two.

Had breakfast, packed, settled the bill, took shuttle to Airport ¡V again to be thoroughly unimpressed by Air France !

On balance I think the 5 ¡V 6 restaurants around Irmak are the place to go. You can have an afternoon girl, or an all-night girl. Good GFE service at reasonable prices and the price downstairs in the restaurants aren¡¦t too bad (given that you will pay a premium almost every place you go), and the girls will come back to your place.

It was good to meet up with NoC and LE, was disappoint that Cossack did not show, I thought he was going to be the Master of Ceremonies for the duration.

Live long and prosper !

[BunnyHopper]

istanbul weekend july 2003

present: bunnyhopper (bh) , no_commit (noc) and local expert (le).

this is my report on the weekend from my point of view. you will also read over the next few days reports by noc and le. i hope you guys find that interesting because you will read three view points of the same situations. perhaps it will tell you something about the differing outlooks we have on mongering !

day 1:

came into istanbul via air france (uk to paris to istanbul). i will avoid travelling with air france in the future. the plane was delayed from the uk to paris and i was rescued by british airways ! when i got to cdg, af staff told me the check-in was closed ! having said, that they did frantically make phones to try to re-open the check-in and get me on-board. they did succeed, but only after nearly giving me ¡§kittens!¡¨... the other thing which i did not like too much about cdg was that to get between terminals you have to take an onsite bus¡k. ! i guess i was feeling rather stressed because i knew i would struggle to make my connection. it may come as no surprise also that my return flight from cdg was also delayed. i don¡¦t think i will fly air france again.

anyway arrived at istanbul ataturk and around 3:00 pm, faced the usual gauntlet of the turkish immigration officers !!!! the film midnight express running through my mind ļ

went outside and got on the holiday inn shuttle service that was already outside, nicely timed. check in was very easy and the hotel lay out lends itself very well to mongering (read on below). room was usd 46.75 plus 18% local tax. they gave me a twin room with two double beds !!!!

4:00 pm, met noc in the lobby. we brought ourselves upto speed and then walked over to the neighbouring crowne plaza to use the facilities. nice hotel if you are in istanbul for a genuine reason ļ

we grabbed a cab and went to aksaray. this was the first time that i had been to aksaray in the day time. it looked like a pretty normal area. many people, couples, families, regular shops, ¡k.. lot¡¦s of hussle and bussle.

we went to the irmak restaurant. the address is mesihpasa cad, ihtisapagasi sok no 11/a. tel: 0212 518 50 52 (one of the waiters gave me his business card).

for those of you familiar with barcardi club. imagine you are inside bacardi and step outside. you then cross the main road infront of you, turn left and then take the first right turn you come to about 5 ¡v 10 metres. go up this right turn another 5 metres and irmak is either on your left or right along pedestrian road. it is a restaurant with many chairs and tables outside ¡v in the daytime, this part of aksaray is very open and safe.

noc was familiar with the place as he had been there before, he also speaks fluent turkish ! we sat down and ordered a cola, beer and some squid. there was about five or six girls at the table in front of us ranging from 0 to 6. as we sat eating and chatting, two girls walked by and sat down at the table in front of us with the other girls. one caught my eye, she was tall, slim, dark blonde with a nice ass.

noc and i kept chatting for after about ten minutes, trying to get a good look at the girls as the got up and went to the toilet. (otherwise you would not be able to see their bodies !)

i decided that i wanted to have this girl. her name was oluiba (spelling ??) from moldova.

we beckoned the waiter and he took us inside the restaurant (up until this point we were seated at the tables outside). she came in and we ordered a coke and vodka for her and started to chat.

this girl was fresh, had just been in istanbul 2 days and spoke no english or turkish and did not know aksaray too well either. we struggled to communicate. at this point noc telephoned valentina (see his previous posting dated 07-06-03)

valentina spoke to luiba about the deal i wanted and then oluiba went outside and got another girl that spoke turkish to come inside. this other girl spoke to valentina, i guess telling her that she was familiar with noc and what we were cool. oluiba wanted usd60 to come back with me to the holiday inn for about 2 hours and we would then drop her back off at irmak - we paid the usd60 to this other girl. we stayed for about half an hour i guess, had some coffees too and then left. the restaurant bill was i think 38million. i am not sure as i was running a tab with noc as he spoke turkish and we were thus less likely to be overcharged.

the deal was also that we pick up valentina from her hotel on our way back to the inn (valentina was for noc).

we picked up valentina, and immediately i noticed that oluiba perked up. i guess until this point she was perhaps nervous. having valentina along was good idea. i guess they feel safer in pairs.

we got back to the inn at about 6:00 pm. noc went to his room with valentina and i went off to my room with oluiba.

the holiday inn lends itself very well to guests. the accommodation blocks have separate entrances so you don¡¦t have to walk through the lobby/reception. this was a good thing also for when the girl leaves.

anyway, once in the room, we sat down and got some drinks from the mini bar. she drank vodka and i drank cola ! we tried to chat for a bit and then i suggested a shower. we both stepped in together.

this was really very nice, she washed me all over and even shampooed my hair and i did the same to her. she was very relaxed now and quite playful.

we dried off and jumped on the bed, touching and exploring her body. did this i guess for about 10-15 mins. then i started to finger her, this was went i noticed how wet she was ! i couldn¡¦t believe it. i have never been with a hooker that seemed to get turned on. she was so wet and warm down below, like when you are with your girlfriend/wife.

we did the deed, she was nibbling my ears, biting my lips and tongues and biting my nipples. she was really good, it felt like i was with my girlfriend. we carried on for about 15-20 mins in different positions, she seemed to like it cowgirl style ¡v before i shot my load doggy style.

she seemed really disappointed, i asked what¡¦s wrong and she said gestured that she would have liked me to carry on longer for her to orgasm too.

wow ! i thought, she was really up for it ¡v i understood why she was so wet down below. had i stopped and thought about her pleasure for a moment, i would have timed my orgasm after hers ¡v with hindsight, that would have been something ¡v to feel her pussy contract as she orgasmed !

we fell to the bed, and had a smoke and carried on drinking for a bit before another quick shower. i was mindful of the time as local expert (le) was due to arrive about 8:00 pm. at no point did i feel under time pressure from her. she may have stayed or hours more.

anyway had another blistering round with her. it was a bit too soon after the first round though, but the sex was really good. again so much enthusiasm and it felt real too me.

we had another quick shower and gain she washed me, paying attention to my privates and again shampooing my hair.

i had not yet unpacked, so i did so then and called room service to bring me and iron and ironing board. they did so.

when it arrived, i asked her to iron my shirt - which she happily did as i spent my time gelling my hair, splashing on cologne¡k.etc.

what a little treasure i had stumbled across. !

8:00 pm went to noc¡¦s room with luiba and was greeted by valentina. noc was down in the lobby to get le.

valentina ordered a few beers. noc¡¦s room was pretty nice, nice sun terrace/patio looking out over the harbour.

then noc and le arrived, we drank beer and chatted ¡v the three wise men had assembled ! we chatted and decided on a plan for the evening.

we agreed the three of us would take oluiba back to irmak and do a tour of the joints and valentina would stay in the inn for noc¡¦s return.

we grabbed a cab and it was i guess around 9:00 by the time we got back to irmak. noc commented to me that he thought oluiba looked disappointed to go. i guess it makes sense to me now about her, she was still new to the game, not hardened up yet and hence still into the gfe ¡v i did treat he well and with kindness and it paid dividends for me.

irmak was far more busy now, lots of girls outside. the next to irmak are perhaps 5 or 6 other bars and a hotel opposite called bosper hotel (spelling ?) ¡v more on that later.

many of the girls were really hot ¡v upto 7 ¡v 8 on your taste.

we stopped at a regular restaurant and had our evening meal.

bacardi: - we then went to the bacardi, i guess now 10:30pm ¡¥ish. the girls are best that i have seen anywhere in istanbul. our plan was just to sit and drink and watch for a bit and then go elsewhere. i have a camera phone and i tried to take pictures inside, but it was too dark. these are girls are really fit, dressed to thrill ¡v perfect sun tan¡¦s

i spotted the two girls i had on my previous trips and pointed them out ! including the one with the breast implants !!!!!!!!!!!

we paid up, i can¡¦t recall how much, le & noc may remember ¡v i was still running my tab with noc.

we walked down akasary along the main road, looked into some of the bars but were not impressed. we went into 2 on them including sikago2000 (which gets a mention in the archives somewhere). pretty poor these places, but it was still very early in the evening ¡v few girls not very pretty looking.

{{{{as i am writing this, i have just noticed that le has posted his report, perhaps i am confused about the order in which we visted some of the bars¡k but the facts are the same regardless ¡v even though i was the one that didn¡¦t drink raki !!!}}}}

serenda :- we then walked to serenda, 20 million to get ¡v turkish hyper inflation !!!!.

same old guy at the cash register, same look on his face when he saw me, ¡§you again¡k!¡¨ he must have thought.

as le has said, stock was very disappointing ¡v problem of summer and weekend bookers having taken the best girls already. but again i did spot two girls. that i had on previous trips, including one that was ready to do anal for me at no extra (back then august 2002 ¡v it was usd100 for the night) ¡v try as i might, that night i could not penetrate her arse !!! i left my lube at the hotel ¡v i go prepared now !
i went to the dance floor and asked her if she remembered me ¡v she said she did, but i think she didn¡¦t. i asked her were are all the girls, she said this is it !

le has written already about the arsy waiters. there is one waiter there that i always ask for by name when i am there as he speaks english and gets me a good table without the rip-off whiskey. i asked noc to ask one of the other waiters there if my waiter was there, unfortunaly not working that night !!!

we watched the show, i went on the floor twice to have a good look at the stock. overall, disappointing so we left.

if my memory serves me well, we went back to bacardi then, i think we had already looked at sikago2000 and others. anyway the point is we ended up back at bacardi.

bacardi :- went on the floor a couple of times with le, we saw many girls we would have loved to fuck. i was edging towards deciding on a tall blonde with a perfect tan, silky smooth legs and an ass you could eat all-night long ¡v then noc invited a girl to our table.

her name is olga, she was a drop dead gorgous. she was russian; fair skin, black hair, pigtails and mesmerising green eyes. noc wanted a sandwich (her, him and valentina back at the inn)

olga was undecided on this and had a drink with us and then went back to her table.

le, decided he wanted to head back to serenda and noc decided he wanted to go back and pump valentina ¡v just me left to decide what to do.

i thought in my mind, i have already seen olga at close quarters, so i might as well have her, rather than pick the blonde i was edging towards and go through the whole routine of drinks¡ketc.

olga came back to our table (le had left now) and i asked her how much, she replied 200 euros. i knew this was the going rate, so i agreed. i paid usd200, she wanted paying in the club.

i committed a cardinal sin, i did not ask her how long she would stay or what she would do.

we left, got hassled by the waiter because he wanted a tip (again) noc explained to him that we had already paid a tip at the time le left. we left, i paid 5mill tip to the cloakroom guy. and ignored the guy outside wanting a tip to flag the cab down (just do it yourself and ignore him)

at the inn, noc went off to his room and olga and i back to my own room.

we chatted for a bit, she seemed really nice. even more pretty in proper lighting - she had a vodka out the mini bar. we had quick shower and then we were on the bed.

perfect skin, really long nipples ¡v i enjoyed nibbling those.

the sex was really good, she gave deep throat blowjob, and i fuck her in all positions (no anal) ¡v it was not mechanical at all ¡v it reminds of sex with my girl back home.

the best part was that i finished off in the doggy position with one pigtail in each hand. such a thrill watching her arch her back and that arse shaking about. i shot my load and slumped to the bed.

this is went things started to go wrong. they all have mobile and this mobile kept on ringing. four or five calls in the space of 10-15 mins. one call seemed quite heated, i could hear another person shouting on the other end.

she jumps off the bed and said ¡§i¡¦m leaving¡k.¡¨ i said but you have to stay to the morning. she replied ¡§i never agreed that¡k.¡¨ i knew then of the cardinal sin that i had committed !

she showered, wanted 30mil for cab and the fucked off ¡v leaving me in the lurch.

i sat finishing my drink wondering what to do. the night was still young and i did not feel tired. i considered call noc¡¦s room to see if he wanted to share valentina¡k but i decided against it.

i took a couple of photos (tasteful) of olga with my camera phone, the quality of the pictures are pretty poor, but both le and noc have seen her at close quarters and perhaps can understand why i thought she might be the fuck of the century.

killed the lights and went to sleep.

as a footnote, i should add that on my previous trip. i tooks girls from bacardi on two consequetive nights, both were very good, did all the stuff we agreed and stayed for the time we agreed.

perhaps this evenings experince with olga was a flash-in-the-pan.

it hasn't detered my from visiting on any new trip trip.

[Local Expert]

Here is my version of BunnyHopper's, No_Commit's and my mongering-weekend in Istanbul:

To put it bluntly: I was fairly disappointed compared to the experience I had about 18 months ago.

We met at the Holiday Inn at 20.00 on Friday night, where BH and NC booked their rooms. I stayed at a friend's house, so I got there by taxi. Both have already been in Aksaray during the afternoon where they picked up 2 chicks, so we were 5 people in NC's room and had a quick beer. NC made sure that his needs will have been satisfied for his entire stay and booked his chick for 2 days for a total of 150 USD.

After our beer, we left NC's chick at the hotel and brought back BH's chick to a restaurant in Aksaray where BH picked her up prior in the afternoon. These restaurants (about 6 in a row) are located in a side street, you can eat there and pick up a girl (mostly from the CIS) for desert.

We then headed to a small, but clean restaurant for dinner to prepare ourselves for the night. I think the bill was around 30 million TL for the 3 of us.

After dinner, we first went to Bacardi had a beer and checked the stock available. The girls were gorgeous and definitely the best looking ones compared to all other clubs we checked out later. Since I had bad experience in Bacardi the last time I was in Istanbul (expensive girls, rip-off, etc.) we moved on to Serenda after our beers (I think it was 10 million each plus a rip-off of 10 or 15 million for these stupid fruits and nuts). On the way I suggested to check into some small bars to (maybe) find a good place which was not mentioned on this board before, but they were only crap.

Serenda was the place where I was woken up from my dreams of a great night. It has changed a lot from my last trip to Istanbul. The entrance fee is now 20 million TL which includes a drink and some "meze" (= fruits, nuts, etc), the beer is 5 million. The place was packed with local men but there were only around 10 girls. We arrived there early (I would say 22.00 or 22.30) but could still only get a table behind a column that supports the ceiling between the dance floor and the tables, so we couldn't really see the chicks on the dance floor. I protested and wanted to sit at the bar, but these waiters (= wankers) made a problem about that. There were other tables available, but if you wanted to sit there, you had to buy a bottle of Turkish Whiskey for 100 million TL, which we were not willing to do. I asked one waiter why the place was so empty regarding girls and he told me that since it was the weekend and summer, the majority of the chicks is either working in Antalya or has been booked prior by local Istanbulians for the entire weekend. This statement was true for all bars in Aksaray. When we came to Serenda, all the girls were sitting at tables and the dance floor was empty. About 10 minutes later the started to dance for 5 minutes and we could get a glance at the stock. Nothing really exiting to be honest. After that, there was a dance show by 2 dancers (not nude though) followed by 2 others. We drank our beer in Serenda and left for Chicago Bar.

At this place, there was a live singer and some girls at tables. We just had a look and left without ordering anything.

I think we went to one or the other bar after Chicago, sat down, paid horrendous bills for our beers and fruits and decided to go back to Bacardi. Back there, we had another drink and checked the stock at the dancefloor in detail. There were really very hot chicks dancing and NC invited one to our table while BH and me went onto the dancefloor to get a closer look. I fancied an oriental looking one but got disappointed when I took a closer look. Back at the table I asked NC's girl about the prices and she confirmed 200 USD for the night. Now.... "the night" in Bacardi seems to mean "a huge bill of about 10 million for your drink, another 10 million for this fruits platter, I think 30 million for her foxglove of water, tips to every idiot on your way out to the taxi and one screw in your hotelbed. BH will come to the details in his report soon. Having had bad experiences in Bacardi the last time I was there, I decided to split up from the group and went back to Serenda. This place was as disappointing as it was some hours before. I got a seat at the bar finally, but the stock was terrible and due to the majority of men in Serenda, the prices must have rose a lot. I chatted up this Romanian chick on the dancefloor (a 6 on my scale and in no way comparable to the hotties from last year). She offered me 150 USD, which I told her was impudent and said that I would not pay more than 150 million. She agreed finally and we went to the reception. This hotel was booked out, so they put us on the waitinglist and sent us to the roof restaurant, where about 5 other couples were waiting for a room as well. When I looked at her under "normal light" I started doubting my decision to spend the night with her, she was only a 4,5. On top of that she expected me to buy her food or a drink and told me I was "cimri" (= cheap) when I said "no". Now, whenever I hear a chick in Turkey calling me "cheap" I get the real meaning. These girls wanna finish you off for a high price and do their best to get back down to the bar/disco/home. When she then told me that she was Romanian, which she translated as "no head", "no anal" and "no this" - "no that", I had enough, left her up there and went out. Thank God I hadn't paid her anything yet.

I headed back to Chicago where the singer had gone and several chicks and men were dancing. I shared a table with a Turk who told me the same story (summer, weekend, good girls all gone). This place is a rip-off ! Although they have a pricelist at the entrance stating 5 million for your beer, they still charge 35 million for your first "set" of a beer and these really annoying fruits. God, I have not had that much vitamins in one night for ages....... :-(

Now listen, if they do the same thing to you, just dont pay !!! Dont let these assholes fuck you !!! Go to the front desk, call the manager, show him the "5 million sign" on the price list and refuse to pay more than that. Of course he will tell you stories, but just tell him to call the police then. In that stage they usually get scared and let you go, but won't let you in again. So I left, and wanted to try my last chance at Europa.

Well that place was empty, about 10 guys and 10 girls, Russian waitresses and not so loud as the other places were. Same story here, beer 5 million, starter set 20 million. I told the waitress to bring me a glass of water for 5 million and refused the fruits. She came again with nuts and other stuff, but I directly sent that back. It must have been around 3.30 and I was tired and horny, so I called an oriental girl from Kazakistan over to my table. She looked pretty good for that time, about 7 on my scale, but was already drunk and started kissing and fingering me in the bar. I agreed on 150 million for the night, got her a drink (30 million LT) and took her home. She was a wild cat; got directly undressed after I closed the door to the flat I was staying in and started sucking me (not very good though) in the hallway. She had nice tits and a very soft skin. Her name is Zhanar. I opened a can of beer for her and then we went to bed. She was asking me for cocaine !!!!! :-(( and told me how great this stuff is supposed to be, but that' s not my cup of tea. I had her twice, no anal, and got really tired at around 5.30, so I called her a cab and went to bed.

As a summary I must say: It was a very expensive evening, many girls with attitudes, not really what I had thought of and experienced before. I will try the same route on a weekday in winter, until that I will do more research in Ankara.

BH and NC... it was a pleasure to meet you, you are both nice guys and we should repeat our trip when its rainy and colder in Turkey.

Our beloved friend Cossack did unfortunately not show up, although this weekend was his idea and he confirmed to meet us at the Holiday Inn.

Loser :-)))))) .... but you didnt miss anything.

I saw NC in Ankara on Sunday evening, this experience will be posted soon in he Ankara section.

[paganslave]

Cuesta,
You are absolutely right. We regular visitors to the IStanbul area need to keep our fellow readers informed as to what they are missing. I'll be back trolling soon and plan to bring along a camera this time. We need to get a Turkey section going!

I've been to the clubs and HATE paying for over priced drinks for an hour until I select the woman I want. Daniela sound wonderful. I'll give her a ring. The next time you are in Istanbul, consider calling Alexsandra - 90-536-883-7698 She is a petite Ukrainian blond. She spent the night with me for $150. A beautiful and very willing sex slave!

Enjoy.

[Cuesta]

For your info I stopped by Demirköy hotel last night and the place was empty around 12:00, went back at 1:00 there were about 15 chicks averaging 5/10 in looks and cosmetics.

Just had a coffee and watched.CC is 15 mio and as I was leaving around 1:30 there were girls being bussed in and they certainly looked better like 6,7 .Can anyone tell me if you can take the girls out to go to your place or do you have to use the hotel for horizontal purposes. I will definitely try the place out again soon.

[Cuesta]

Originally posted by Cossack
I forgot...NoC Demirkoy is still open, and I was there on Wed, you know bored and just drove in for a drink. The quality has gone down a bit since last summer, but I picked up a hottie called Daniela from Romania, and had a good time for all! Not the best in the looks (5/6 with nice firm tits and a ROOOUUUUND ass). Unlike all our fellow posters, me included, this girl does it all and happily. I would dare to say that she is one of the few girls who ENJOY their work, and as I said even though she ain't the hottest tamale in town, she is worth EVERY penny, I got her # and asked hr if I could post it...of course she as any other sane business person is up for free advertisement!!!! So here it is, +90-533-244-6076. When y'all call tell her you got her # from her friend in Kemerburgaz..me! That's all

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

PS what is up with ALL you guys I meet while mongering? You are all just lurking about reading but not contributing! Lets us tell our fellow sickos how good Istanbul REALLY is! Get a name, password, and wirte in you assholes!

Later!

Hi Cossack , is Demirkoy Hotel the one near Atakoy Marina or are you talking about the ranch like place past Kumburgaz app. 50 mi. drive west of the AÝRPORT.

[Cachondito]

All apologies for my stupidity, now I've figured who Daniela would be. Still no idea about the others though. I would still like some information about those ones.

Cossack, is it ok if I call her and tell her I got her number from you? Should I speak English or should I speak Turkish with her? Does she do Greek and how much would she cost me for an hour and/or overnight?

Oh and that Demirköy... It's walking distance to where I am right now. I know it's not meant for Turkish people but I could show them my Canadian I.D. and speak English with a Canadian accent and get in (I think..) or I could simply put someone in between. BUT, is it worth it? How much do the girls usually cost and what would their rating be regarding the looks department?

Thanks in advance for the info.

[Cachondito]

Guys.. Who are these women with Italian names? Valentina, Sylvia, Daniela..? Am I missing on something important? :-)