Istanbul

[BunnyHopper]

Aslan,

Nice report, glad you enjoyed your time.

Those little pills really are a wonder drug - a must from now on !

The stuff i bought was a generic, called Vigrande 50 (i think) and the price was electronically printed onto it (40 something mill i think). I can imagine that Pfizer is more expensive.

I also agree, that these pills really wear you out. Your "Stick" will stay rock hard for hours but the rest of your body lags behind - adequate sleep is very important.

Each time i have been to Irmak, i have always thought that the girls at the places adjacent are more nicer, but never investigated this - the waiters seem more pushy (as you walk past) and the girls i picked up from Irmak have always told me that the adjacent places charge the punters more.

Has anybody investigated these joints ?

For a Turkish hooker, perhaps you should have tried the massage parlours, they all have turkish girls and you can get their number for an outcall later. There is Nadide & Enjoy and i am sure cab drivers will know of others in the city.

Ankara is the place for Turkish hookers (Tally Ho ! LE how are things in Ankara ?).

When i was there last time during December, the secondary entrances to the accomodation blocks at the Holiday Inn were locked (i guess because of bombs) - but when taking a girl back i was never asked to sign one in. This is a difference now.

Also i think i'd prefer to stay now in a hotel closer to Aksaray - anybody got any suggestions ?

Anything new in Istanbul - off the beaten track ??


Enjoy.

[Tom2004]

Priamos,

Thanks for the coments and I blieve you are right. Honestly I am more in outcalls and there is the scene not to good at least I did not got any numbers. The other problem is I am always on business trip and have only a couple of hours on time to spent. This gives a certain preassure to get it done.

And last but not least, my jacket was not for the actual temps, thus having a cold now.

Take care and have fun,

Tom

[Aslan Kral]

Day 3

Woke up at 1PM after 12 hours of sleep. Take a shower and go to Galleria to eat another kebab, may be catch another movie later. 2-3 hours later, I call the first night’s lady, Hmmm, another lady responds. This is possibly her friend. She says she is available, but that’s not I’m asking about it, I mention about this Turkish lady, but she does not know and turns a negative attitude. I say bye and start planning. I feel like I am not going to do it today, my flight is tomorrow morning, but why waste one more day? I can use the other half of Viagra pill from yesterday.

What is going to happen to other three pills? I have no idea where I am going to use them, because they must be used for serious banging, possibly multiple prostitutes during the same night. Using it against a regular gal is not going to be merciful. These must be properly utilized on pros.

In Galleria, I see some Turkish men sitting with beautiful ladies. I mean, the guys are quite ugly, not shaved, possibly coming from rural areas to pay a visit to banging business in Istanbul. You look at the girls sitting next to these guys and some of them are among the prettiest I have ever seen. What a conflicting scene! Woman don’t seem happy and guys don’t seem like pimps. 2 men 3 girls, conclusion is; money buys everything.

I catch a taxi and go to Irmak again. My strategy is clear, now I am looking for a lady at least 8-9 range, if I don’t find it here go to other places later. I also think about going to this restaurant where the Turkish lady is waiting for customers, but I still want to check Irmak.

Now, Sunday evening, the place is full, nowhere to sit. Lots of girls (15-20 of them) and may be 7-8 guys. All people are sitting mixed around the tables, even though they have no common business. Waiters know me and I tell them to put me in a table with 4 girls which seem quite high on the scale. This is going to be costly, because I have to buy drinks for 4 women. I am not thinking about hiring 2 or 3 of them together, I am still focused on just one lady.

Three Moldavian and one Hungarian. Each of them is at least 8, but 2 girls sitting on one side seem very young, might be even younger than 18. They are relatively short, but attractive. On the other hand, two on the other side are older, 25-30 range, but they are taller and prettier. I make an early decision, Hungarian or Moldavian, ignoring the younger ones.

Both are beautiful, but Hungarian seems more welcoming. I like her, she is about 1.70M, brunette, large boobs, very nice ass, awesome, definitely better than the first 2 nights. Question is can we connect and have a joyous night? We talk about Hungary, Budapest, European Union, the situation back home, etc.

I make a final decision after 10-15 minutes and decide to go with the Hungarian. Moldavian might be a stunner, but I have little evidence it will turn out to be a lovely night with her. I don’t want anything mechanical, passionate long sex is number one priority.

Our lady quotes 100Mil for 2 hours and 170 Mil for the night. It is slightly higher than first 2, but that’s OK, all night still comes to 105 euros.

The check was 46M and head-waiter now complained about the tip, which was 4Mil. Why don’t you leave a 10Mil he asked. I didn’t like his attitude and didn’t tip him more.

The key point out of this is that I don’t want to spend this much money in Irmak or other places. I gotta have several connections and call them when I am in town. Most of these ladies return back to Istanbul on a regular basis and stay for a month or 2. I would love to have Turkish connections and my plan is to improve upon it when I visit next time. I kept thinking about this and when I can come back to the city next time, while riding the taxi together with the Hungarian beauty.

I had a lot of Hungarian friends, but never had sex with a Hungarian lady. Some people from Hungary had claimed that Turks and Hungarians originate from the same roots, seriously doubt it.

She registers at the hotel using a Turkish identification card! I ask if she is married to a Turkish guy, she says she got it a few years back, bribing a few hundred bucks. This is authentic, I mean she uses to enter the country. She says, it is not possible anymore because the law has been changed, you had to stay married to a Turkish citizen for 5 years she says.

We get to the room, again she turns out to be quite talkative and prefers Turkish. I like her from the first moment. She takes off her clothes slowly, and it is a stunner, definitely a 9. Now I feel like I wanna kiss every inch of her body. I think, I am going to eat her, yes I wanna eat her.

While she is in the shower, I consume the rest of the pill from yesterday.

We go to bed naked and pill does its work like that. It is skyrocketing now, my guest likes it a lot. She says, it is a like a ‘sopa’ (stick) . She speaks Turkish quite good and uses all types of words, ‘yarrak’ (penis), ‘sikmek’(fucking), ‘got’(ass), etc. She use these words during the intercourse and I am overjoyed to hear that a girl is moaning your native language during sex using all foul words. This would be one reason why I would want to have sex with a Turkish girl.

She sucks softly for about 20 minutes, and then I suck her, first time in my life, her vagina is so beautiful. This might even sound disgusting for some folks, but she taught me how I should eat her and that was a very good feeling, as you suck her, she masturbates using your tongue and truly enjoys the moments, moaning deeply. You realize that she is not faking. Yes, I like her.

We have then sex at different positions, but during missionary position, she uses my stick for about 30-minutes to reach orgasm. I can feel how she gives different angles to her vagina, basically do the real fucking. She says, ‘oooh, sopa gibi yarrak’ (penis like a stick). Folks, I guarantee you that she is not faking. I am not in a position to finish, but I enjoy every moment. Thanks to her and Viagra.

She then sits, but having achieved the orgasm, it is now more mechanical. But I still enjoy the scene from the mirror. Very nice, beautiful and round ass ramming my penis.
I suck her large and natural boobs. She is fantastic and uses all those foul words.

We try a couple of more positions, but I can not just finish. I don’t want to hurt her and a little bit tired, I say let’s wait for some time. I tell her, I wanna keep it for the rest of the night and later pay her 50 more euros. She has a stunning body, no question about it.

We order room service and eat together, talk about our past experiences. I talk about the women of my past, and she does the same, talking about her ex-husband, her disappointments, etc. Amazing detail from our conversation is that when she started whoring she was not very experienced, having had sex with only 2 men until then. I have a feeling that she was telling the truth because she covered the details quite consistently.

After midnight, we start the business again and continue for one more hour but no success. I open the erotic channels, but they are not going to help much. My dick is like a stick but won’t happen.

Now we rest and talk about other ladies, I ask if she has another friend she can offer me if come back later. She says yes, and talks about another Hungarian lady. I talk about a 2-some, and she says yes, we can do it. We exchange the numbers.

We talk about the activity in other parts of Istanbul. She says, Taksim area is full of transsexuals and she does not like them. She told me about one weird story. She was once hired by a homosexual. She, of course didn’t know until she arrived to the hotel room. It was a suite with two rooms. This newly wed male couple from Amsterdam visited Istanbul for honeymoon, and one of them (wife) had decided to fuck a female and brought our lady to his room. Our lady sees the other guy and becomes nervous, then she was explained the situation that the other guy wouldn’t touch her, could not touch her anyway. Wife fucks our lady and during the intercourse, husband waits in the other room.

Amazing, right?

We were quite tired and went to sleep after 1AM. Woke up at 5AM to catch the flight, but she wants me to finish. So, I eat her again, bangs missionary position, she got orgasm, talks dirty, all similar to previous night and then I cum all over her, in about 45 minutes.

45 minutes later, we catch separate taxis, one to her hotel, one to the airport.

Lessons learned;

1-) Don’t tip, or if you tip, keep it to a minimum, otherwise expectations will always be higher. If possible, try to have a table for yourself only and invite your lady. Sometimes this is not possible as there are not enough places.

2-) Be nice to your lady friends, talking for at least 20-25 minutes before the intercourse and being nice is going to be rewarding later. Try small gifts, such as chocolate.

3-) If you are planning to visit Istanbul a few times over the next few months, try building relationships. Target at least one connection. Connections might help you achieve more connections. I will visit Istanbul and plan to have two-some with Hungarian beauties.

4-) Price for a lady in Irmak should never exceed 100 euros for an all nighter, unless the lady is a true hit. But, true hits very rarely play well in bed. If you are clean, shaved and have good outfit, regardless of your attractiveness scale, the ladies will probably choose you over others with reasonable pricing, possibly less than 50 euros per night. Ladies, especially the ones working on other countries are afraid of unexpected incidences, thus reject low-level Turkish guys from time-to-time. I did not cover the details above, but I heard dark stories from each of my three guests. Each claimed that they make a selection, and don’t accept every request. I am not sure if they are telling me the truth.

5-) Use protection These ladies do checkup from time-to-time, like every six months, but they do it with others without protection. The chances might be smaller compared to western countries, however would you take a flight anywhere if the plane would go down with a minor possibility of even 1%?

6-) I have the impression that Irmak scene will be much different during summer, possibly much less choices. Whenever I visit Irmak, found enough choices, and female/male ratio was more than 2.

Summary;

Lots of sucking, hours of fucking, I definitely enjoyed Istanbul scene and will go back at the first opportunity.

[Aslan Kral]

Day 2

I have not slept enough, but hey, I am here for *****-banging for 2.5 days. I can sleep later.

I visit Galleria, 3-5 minutes walk from the hotel. Eat doner kebap, go to a movie that I missed at home and do some window-shopping. Galleria is not that bad, even better than those dumb malls in East Coast. Most of the customers are from eastern countries, possibly *****s spending their hard-earned dollars/euros.

Now I wanna visit Seranda, but it is still too early, so I get a taxi, go back to Aksaray. I spot a small drugstore on Mustafa Kemal Caddesi. BunnyHopper might have mentioned about the same place, but I did not see a Bayer logo. Asked the guy if they have Viagra and could sell without a prescription. That’s an absurd question in Turkey, of course they would sell it without a prescription. My doctor back in US would never prescribe me Viagra.

The price for 4 tablets was 69.5 Mil, 21 Mil more expensive than what BunnyHopper quoted. But, it was clear that the drug was genuine, there was Pfizer logo and prize was also attached. Anyway, I would not care about the price difference much. I bought 4 pills of 50mg for 69.5 mil. There was another option, 4 pills of 100mg for 103Mil.

It is 5-ish, then proceeded to Irmak.

Now the place is more crowded, may be 5 *****-bangers and 11-12 girls. Men come in and go out after checking the scene. Some of the men are badly shaved, difficult to imagine *****s would accept them, I mean they are ugly and seem dangerous, but hey money buys everything for every one.

Anyway, I sat down at a table alone and call my friend from previous day to go for this Turkish girl. No response, I try 10-15 times for the next 30 minutes sipping coffee. I now decide to choose another girl and see an older woman around 35 years-old. I immediately like her, there are much better looking girls with better bodies, but I have instincts, this lady will give me whatever I want tonight.

I invite her and talk to her for the next 20-25 minutes. Again similar subjects. She is short-petite-brunette with short hair. I learn that she is from Ukraine and worked as a kindergarten teacher for several years before government wages sharply plunged to next to nothing. We have definitely connected and agree on the price without any problem, 50 euros for 2 hours and 100 euros for the night.

The check was now 38 Mil, because of 4 cups of coffee I consumed and her cocktail.

Took a cab and went back to the hotel. Quick registration, the clock hits 6PM when we hit the room. Plenty of time ahead, and she does not request the money right away. After 20-25 minutes of talk about different things, we start kissing, and go to shower. While she is in the shower, I take half of a Viagra pill following Mr. Hopper’s advise. That starts showing impact after 10-15 minutes and really woow! After a night of 4-5 hours of sucking/fucking how’s that sound? That would be almost impossible for me without the pill, even if you bring Pamela Anderson right there.

She comes out of shower and we start business. Her ass is quiet nice, and I observe it from the mirror when she sucks me. She does BBBJ without any question and even ready for unprotected sex. These ladies would not mind, but it is better to do protected. Anyway, I feel like my penis is going to hit the roof and she sucks and sucks and sucks, sloooowly for 25-30 minutes. Then sits on top of it slowly fucking it, moaning, while I am watching everything from the mirror. Nice, and I would cum probably within minutes under these circumstances, but does not happen. Goes on like 2-hours, different positions, I finally come while banging her from behind, stomach on the bed. We are all sweating over, breathing hard during the session.

I decide to keep her, rather than going back to find another *****. We agree on additional 50 euros, and it is still long way to go during the night. Amazing, my dick is already hard, waiting to be served. She starts sucking again, does not show a single clue of disappointment. I keep telling her, if it hurts or you get tired, let me know, we can stop.

While she was sucking, I open the TV and find a Russian channel. There are some pretty nice songs and she starts watching TV with me. She explains the meaning of songs and I try to sing the melody of a Turkish song adapted from an old Russian folk song. She sings me the original song explaining the meaning. I like the song and I like her.

Going back to business, I bang her for the next 1-1.5 hours, dick is not going down under no circumstances. I stand up and let her suck and observe the scene from mirror. Pretty nice. Then I ask if I come in her mouth, she says yes, but wouldn’t swallow. I cum after another 15-20 minutes, just on her body after a very-fast missionary type. If you are desperate to cum, you can take one leg of her to support your very fast movement. Most ladies don’t like it, but she did not complain, I cum even better then the first one.

Close to 1AM, I got her number, but she was set to leave this Wednesday. I presented a nice chocolate box to her, she thanked, we kissed, called a taxi for her. She left on her own without me escorting her.

Anyway, I was sure I could go on with banging business until the next several hours, but I was very sleepy so go to bed. Slept until 1PM.

[Aslan Kral]

I visited Istanbul over the last weekend and had long sessions with three different girls, now would like to share my experience.

Some background information; I am Turkish, have been living abroad for about 15 years. Though being Turkish, don’t know Istanbul well. I read the articles posted in this forum and tried to follow guidelines, starting from Irmak.

I live in US, but visiting Europe for business for a few weeks. Before flying to Istanbul, downloaded a map from internet that shows all relevant streets and purchased two packs of condoms. I also purchased lots of chocolate to give as gifts to my to-be-entertainers.

Day 1

I arrived at Ataturk airport around 8PM after a 3 hours flight from Europe and took a taxi to Holiday Inn, costing less than 10 mil. Next to Galleria shopping center and Crown Plaza hotel near the airport, it is an ideal location. You are not going to shoot all day long, so you might need some relaxation, go to a movie, read something, eat and buy small gifts, etc.

Daily rate was $59, but not possible to access your room via separate sections as posted earlier. When you bring someone, hotel personnel want you to register the guest, but sometimes it is possible to pass through the reception without being noticed, when the registration area is deserted.

As far as I understood, guest registration requires either a passport or an identification document by Turkish government. All girls said this is expected and presented their passports or identification cards without any objection. One of the girls had even a legitimate Turkish identification card, and told me she bought it paying a few hundred bucks 3-4 years ago. She said it is authentic and uses it all the time to come to Turkey. The ladies I met are legally entering the country, getting their visas at the entry point. Two of the girls were from Ukraine, and other one from Hungary(my favorite one). Interesting point, Turkey does not require a visa from these countries, but they want a real visa from Turkish citizens.

Anyway, hotel people are nice and don’t object to anything, you can have the lady until the morning. When you bring someone, people sometimes look at you, but don’t care much.

In the room, took a quick shower and called the reception to get a taxi. I told the taxi driver ‘Aksaray’ and that was sufficient, all the taxies heading to Aksaray during my three days always went to the same street, Mustafa Kemal Caddesi. I had the full address and a map from Internet so it did not take much time to locate Irmak. It was after 9:30PM and I always felt safe, a few guys tried to talk to me, but I simply ignored them.

First visited the restaurant section of Irmak and had a soup. There are many nice ladies, but this is Friday night and the place is packed full. I had to sit with another guy who was drinking his last Raki. There was no problem, these are peaceful people. After finishing the meal, paid the check (about 10M) and proceeded to the smaller section where you can drink a coffee.

There were 5 ladies and 1 other guy, excluding the 3-4 waiters. I guess, this is normal during March time when Istanbul does not get many tourists. I sat down in a location to check for the ladies, and two of them seem like 7-8, others less. After a coffee, I walk up and invite one of the better ones to my table.

Lady is from Ukraine, blond, about 30-years of age, 1.70M, seems to have large boobs, etc. She is attractive and speaks both English and Turkish. She orders a cocktail, which is possibly the most expensive drink in the arsenal, and asks my name, profession, etc. Prefers speaking in English. We have a nice conversation for about 10-15 minutes and finally get down to the price. I like the lady, feel her looks and reckon I can bang her for hours.

I mention that Irmak is well known over the internet and that’s the reason I am there. She got truly surprised to hear that and finally quotes a price of 50 euros for 2 hours and 100 euros for the night. Better than expected, I was thinking, may be she would quote much more to start with. I guess the business is slow at this time, I mean there is one other guy sitting across and he does not seem very interested with the ***** business.

I ask about BJ and other stuff, and she says she does everything except anal sex. I settle for 2-hours option but she wants the money right away and does not object coming to Holiday Inn. Yes, it is odd that she wants the money right there, but I feel confident I am not being ripped off. I pay her 50 euros, and 20Mil for the tab and 5Mil for the tip, then we head for a cab.

Cab costs less than 10Mil and trip takes about 10 minutes, after registering here at the reception, we head to our room.

She is talkative, we talk about a lot of things, Ukraine, Turkey, the countries I visited and lived, life, how she ended up as a *****, etc, for about 30 minutes. She is a university graduate and not as dumb as American girls back at home. I feel it is unjust that educated eastern girls like this lady had to work as *****s while world’s dumbest girls back home enjoy the amenities of a developed nation (LOL - just kidding).

After the shower together, we start passionately in the bed. She does BBBJ, though no request from my side. It is a 30-minutes premium sucking service, more than enough to arouse me for the rest of the night. This is followed with sex(always protected) in several positions. I can watch us from the mirror, adding more pleasure to the experience. She seems very much like enjoying it. I keep telling her, if it hurts, tell me. We kiss all over, except I don’t eat her. It took about 2-hours before I came on her behind. Except for resting for a 1-2 minutes between different positions, banging went on for 2 hours, wow! I start thinking that’s why we need *****s. Girlfriend back home, would start complaining after 15-20 minutes.

It is already after midnight, I feel a little bit tired, but decide to buy her for the rest of the night. She does not request the money right away and does not complain that we already passed 2-hours limit.

We order something to eat, the hotel has room service until 3AM over the weekends. Watch TV, and can still find common subjects to talk about.

After another shower we start over and have sex for another 2 hours, this time I can’t finish the job, but that’s still lots of pleasure as she sucks my balls out of their places and engages in slow-gentle-fucking.

I ask her what would happen if I use Viagra. She says I would get non-stop erection for, may be, 10-15 hours, but I would feel very exhausted after that and could not possibly do a thing for 2-3 days. I am excited at the idea of 10-15 hours of slow-banging with a hard dick.

We sleep until 9AM and start over again. After 30-40 minutes of joyous morning sex, I come again, this time in missionary position.

After the morning session, it is time to part, and I ask a few questions; such as where I can find a Turkish *****, she says she knows one who usually waits in another restaurant nearby. We exchange phone numbers and she promise that she would introduce the Turkish lady.

I also ask about the police raids and how the customers and *****s are dealt in such cases. She says, police comes to Irmak every other week, sometimes collecting eastern women from multiple locations for a checkup. All of these girls are legally staying in the country and police is only interested if any of the girls has any disease. If they find one, they immediately deport, otherwise they let the girl return back to Irmak or wherever she is working.

She mentioned about other countries she visited. For example, in Dubai you would go to prison and undercover officers try to frame you before the arrest. On the other hand, Arab men also have ‘yarrak’ (a nice slang for penis) and show great interest in whoring. She mentioned about 6-months prison times in Dubai.

I present a big box of chocolate as a gift and she is delighted. I finally call a taxi and escort her to the lobby. People look at us, she is not dressed like a *****, but it is clear she is an eastern girl. People quickly conclude that she is a *****. I don’t budge and look at the people’s faces directly, showing absolutely no sign of embarrassment.

[Priamos]

Tom,

Glad you enjoyed Istanbul, if perhaps not the Yenikapi neighbourhood. Just a couple of words in response to your posting:

1) Irmak is not a street. It is the name of the principal restaurant/bar/discoteque in a small street, which hosts another 3-4 mongering places.

2) The Big Pub is not a rip-off place. Quite the opposite: when they get to know you they even absolve you from the otherwise inevitable snacks (cover charge disguised as salted nuts...) thus making the whole thing much cheaper. The problem is, the premises are shabby and run down, so if you feel unconfortable in places that don't look like Europe in the 21st century you'll feel uncomfortable here. That said, the rip-off places are usually the glitzy and glossy ones. The dark and mushy music bars mostly cater to the locals.

[Tom2004]

Folks,

My FR Istanbul. Being aware this forum is not as active as others are I still gained substantial basic knowledge before starting. Thanks to all who contributed to it before.

Temperature was 3 C and light snowing which might had an impact to the activities on the streets.

Went to Aksaray heading for the famous Irmak street – have not found the street itself, at least no sign saying Irmak, but came to the area where all the activity is going on.

Between 06:00pm and 08:00pm there were quite a number of SW, seeming to be all from the CIS states, on the street which actively approached me, however quality was definite below par. Those looking nicer were definitely waiting for the bus only. The pimps on the street upset me for offering something I may get better without there support. But a lady in the age to be my mother offended my most when actively offering her services and did not give way. Anyhow that is part of the game. Talked to some of SWs and were offered as low as TLR 20MIO for 20 minutes in there own hotel, however this is not my cup of tea if they are not looking nice.

Went to Big Pub but was as quick out as I were inside, because could not become comfortable with the atmosphere. The set-up of all those discos and bars seemed to me as a kind of rip-off and some of you folks have experienced that already, so no need to repeat.

Finally called Alexsandra and asked for an outcall to my Hotel (Hilton Taksim). She agreed to come and were absolute on time.

Look: 8
- Face: 9
- Body: 7
- Breast: 8 (assumed to be 70/75B)
Size: approx 170 cm, 34
Nationality: Ukrainian
Rate: EUR 125,00 for 120mins plus TRL 15MIO for Taxi
Service: CBJ/FS (have not asked for French kiss or anal)
Language: English limited but acceptable for some conversation.

Attitude: well serving, little bit hurrying to my expectation because she wanted to got to club. Funny sweet person. In general good girl friend experience but somehow seemed to be a little bit mechanic.

Remarks: demanded money up front, delivered as agreed in return. Willing to come to hotel without big discussion. Get your own condoms, those she was using seemed to be former tyres for bikes.

Rating: I do recommend her and would contact her again when back in Istanbul

As usual I am willing to share her mobile number with you folks, but on request via PM only. First timers, having not submit reports to the forum will not be served.

Istanbul is not the mongering station to go to, but it is not to bad if you are there anyhow.

Take care folks,

TOM

[Priamos]

The Istanbul section looks a bit dead these days. Rather like Istanbul under the snow. Ah well, as they sing in Porgy and Bess it "ain't necessarily so".

I arrived to Istanbul last Saturday immediately following this winter's worst blizzard. The airport had been closed for 36 hours and consequently the town was full of stranded people from the Middle East, Central Asia, etc. who had missed their one connecting flight that week. Since Turkish law treats blizzards as a force majeur that allows hotel guests to stay in their hotel rooms for as long as they need, my hotel informed me that it was only as a special favour to a return client that they honoured the reservation I had made two months earlier. They are SO kind at hotel Merit Antique... ;-)

And it's not a bad hotel for mongering either: it's located in the nicer part of Laleli, direct at a stop on the tramway that takes you to the touristic areas of town (Hagia Sophia, Galata Bridge), while being only five minutes' walk from the centre of the Russian bar scene around the Mustapha Cemal Street. And, I should add, it is guestfriendly. (But please don't embarras the staff by parading very vulgar girls around.)

As mentioned in an earlier posting, the Yenikapi neighbourhood around Mustapha Cemal is my favourite haunt. A quick guide is the following. Start at the ugly road junction at the top of Mustapha Cemal and walk toward the sea:

1) After one block you have Bacardi Club in a house to your right. It's in the basement and opens late at night.

2) At approximately the same spot, turn left and walk half a block: you will see a short street where the famous Irmak restaurant/bar/discoteque is located. All the bars and restaurants on the street are in the same line of business, but the others are more bent on trickery.

3) Alternatively, turn right and walk for anywhere between a half and two blocks. You're in the neighbourhood selling auto parts, but strewn among these shops you find a number of bars and discoteques, some of them honest, some of them mildly crooked (by which I mean: you may be billed extra, but not up to the point of a complete rip-off). Hotel Serenda with its famous monger-disco is at the far end of this neighbourhood.

4) Back on Mustapha Cemal, continue walking toward the sea. Pass the McDonald and on your right you have the Big Pub music bar (Muzikhol). It opens early, and you can have a beer and a snack in the early afternoon while watching Turkish football on the TV screens.

5) Following it are another couple of places. One of them is downstairs (name?). It also opens early, but I cannot recommend it: the waiters and the girls are "a bit too smart" for my taste.

6) There are a few streetwalkers around Mustapha Cemal. These are Turkish and speak no English. They are very discrete in the sense that they don't hang around, and they won't even stop if YOU hang around and look at them. You need to keep up with their pace and speak to them. (DON'T insult honest women: better to stay in the neighbourhood for a while and identify those women who show up again and again.)

OK, I had three days to spend in Istanbul. Late Saturday afternoon I went to neighbourhood 4) and found a cheap joint where a small group of "Romanian" women (as in "Moldovan"...) were chatting away their boredom with only a few unshaven elderly voyeurs to keep them company. My arrival livened things up a bit. One observation at this place: it pays to dress up!!! Last summer in Istanbul I was another fat slob in a polo shirt and washed up pants and the better looking chicks showed me little to no interest. This winter I arrived in a lacoste pullover and a trenchcoat and they couldn't get enough of me. And this did NOT make their services more expensive - if anything the opposite. I left with a 24 y.o. natural blonde who charged 50 euros for two hours of straight sex. We went to a nearby hotel and got a nice room for which I paid another 30 euros. Finally, I tipped her 20 euros in return for good French kissing and 69 (it's normally part of the service, but one never knows...). She gave me a correct service with a good long BBBJ and two unrushed rounds of penetration. Not exactly GFE, but good value for money nevertheless. Only problem was, she wanted to work entirely without protection and I had a hassle convincing her to accept my using a condom. (Yes, I do prefer BB sex, but if she does it with me it means she does it with everybody else...)

Sunday afternoon I watched a lot of football and drank quite a lot of beer. It was therefore clear that it was not going to be a long night. I went to the Big Pub around 6 p.m. and very quickly picked up a petite black haired Russian woman. She wasn't young (late 30s?), but ultra slim and an excellent dancer (there's a small dance floor - not for gogo but for real couples). The latter caught my attention... she had all the right motions. We went to my hotel, two hours for 50 euros as usual, showered together and used this as foreplay (not all girls will do this), had an OK BBBJ/69 and... my prediction turned out to have been correct. The expert dancer was lively like a case of eels in bed. After my two hours she left and I collapsed on my bed.

Monday afternoon I went to Irmak, but had big trouble finding an English speaking girl. (That's a common problem there, I'm afraid. It's much better in some of the other places.) Finally a waiter helped me to a goodlooking 22 y.o. Ukrainian girl who could speak the lingo. Unfortunately, she was also bent on jingo, so I left her in a hotel room a little later, having paid only the room rate. She told me sternly that "Two hours don't mean two hours. How much sex do you want?", then proceeded to tell me that she never kisses. Come off it babe, we're not in London!

Monday evening, having checked Bacardi and found the girls beautiful, cold-faced and expensive, I went to another one of the places in 4) neighbourhood. There I picked up a 5.10 (three inches more than myself) 21 y.o. Ukrainian girl. (50 euros as usual.) We went to a local hotel, and she gave me the nearest I came to a GFE on this trip. I licked her pussy and her ass, and she took this as a sign of my "tendencies", so in her turn she stuck her tounge at least one inch (I swear!) into my a**hole. Then, when I came on her she exclaimed "You won't stick it in my ass! Or will you?" and smiled coquettishly. Considering I hadn't paid extra for a-levels it was very generous of her, but I declined. It is not really my thing.

A good three-day experience therefore, for a couple of houndreds. I know I'm not in the majority on this board, but I for one recommend Istanbul as a mongering destination.

[P Chaser]

Newbie Steve,

Nope, would be a nice touch though!

[Newbie Steve]

I will be visiting Istanbul and was curious is there such a thing as a hamam that has women who massage the men and provide "extra" services? I'll be traveling with company and don't want to go clubbing but maybe we all go to a Turkish bath where the men receive some nice extras.

Thanks!

[Connect 28]

Chinese Power,

It depends on what you are looking for Naidide is all Turkish girls and except one or two not very good looking. They also need to know you for you to get sex on the spot. Otherwise it will be just a massage. Bacardi is all CIS with very good looking girls. However much more expensive than Nadide and more time consuming.

[Chinese Power]

BTW could you tell me a better way to hoop up? Bacardi or Nadid?

Thanks again

[Chinese Power]

Hey All,

Is it possible for a only english speaker to have 'fun' in Istanbul?

Thanks

[FunInTheSea]

I went to Seranda on tuesday like 11 pm. 20M enterence fee. There was full of girls with very less hunters at the tables. I sat in the bar. Girls were mostly around 5-7, One or two 8.

A sweety Moldavian, Monica took my attention. She said 100M TL for one hour, she had a sexy shirt showing her boobs made my decision. Indeed you must be very careful couse of poor lights of seranda. Her body was slim and shape as if she is training. She had 8 according to my scale. But face is 5 with bad teeth. I paid 45M for the room. Thinking could I have a better choice. I gave 100M in the room to her.

Anyway sex was good. Starting with BBBJ and many positions. She was good. We finished with doggie. I want she stay and gave another 40M. Again good sex. In 2 hours everything ok. I think she rushed becouse if she went the bar early she could find another customer.

[Princer]

BunnyHopper:

Thanks Thanks and Thanks for the help. I found excaliburfilms.com/ site yesterday, you are right every thing is available on VHS. I will try the file sharing software.

I will keep you posted.

Thanks for your time and effort.

Princer