Istanbul

[kitetester]

Yo Cossack! Would definitely appreciate the tel# of the Russian Madame. Also, any info on how to approach her as a first time caller would be helpful. (kitetester@yahoo.com)

[Cossack]

"Never, never, never fall in love with the prostitute, ever!
After seeing her once, resist the temptation to see her again, even if she looks like angel and fucks like she-devil."


Wow Mario, where did that come from????

The trick to this problem is to always, ALWAYS remeber that SHE is on the job. Not neccessarily while you are doing the deed, but after, when that post sex glow sets in. Unless you are willing to supprt her indefinitely, she WILL be fucking someone else very soon. See her again, especially if "fucks like a she-devil", be her friend, enjoy the time, but LOVE??? I don't know. If that happens, then you need to look deep into yourself and start aking alot of questions.

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

Cossack

[yaks87]

HÝ cossack,
Thanks for the good info's.Would you please send me the contact
number of the madam.thanks
e-mail:yaks87@yahoo.com

[dellboy]

Mario,
could you please tell me how can I meet that she-devil. I am willing to take my chances.
dellboyy2002@yahoo.com

[mario]

Never, never, never fall in love with the prostitute, ever!
After seeing her once, resist the temptation to see her again, even if she looks like angel and fucks like she-devil.

[Ruf66]

Hi Cossack,

Great info man. Will be down that way in September - would love the email address.

Thanks man,

ruf_66@yahoo.com

[Tony70]

Dear Cossack,

Your report was very imformative as I plan to visit Istambul this summer. Please can you tell me a contact telephone number or address for the Russian Madam you mentioned. As you said you were satisified with the girl you ordered. Many Thanks.

[Anonymous]

The last report you have on Istanbul is from June 1998. I was there lately for a period of 2 months and I thought I would update the info. First of all the GENELEVs are horrendous. These are the government run *****houses, and as others have said, it is a crap shoot, you may go in and find a 20 beauty, or as is usually the case, you will find 35-50 yo hags. Also the hassle of going to one is not worth it. You have to leave your id at the main gate with the police and Gendarme (there to keep a handle o the young soldiers on leave), get frisked, walk thru the metal detector, and then when you are in hassled by the old madams, food vendors, and the “girls” themselves. The main one in Istanbul is in Karakoy, in down town, near all the tourist attraction. It is basically a dead end street that has the “gate” on the open side. NOT WORTH IT! Also, there was a mention of finding girls in the Aksaray/Laleli area, at the small “pubs” and “bars”. Yes there are girls there, they are not as abundant as in 96-99 due to a sharp drop in trade between Istanbul and the Russian republics, and they are not as expensive as the girls I mention below. These girls are the ones not pretty enough to strip, to be “acceptable” in the hotel lobbies, and maybe not bold enough to work at some of the upper end “discos”. They are OK, the good thing is if all you want is a quickie, you can go in to one of these bars, open around 10 pm, pick/bargain ($40 for 1-2 hrs) and take her out of there. Usually these girls will not go back to your place if it for a fast screw, they will want to stay in the area and will take you to one of the cheap rent by the hour places in and around Aksaray and Laleli. On big drawback is that the immigration police raids these places often, and if you are there, you will be taken in, questioned, and after 3 hours released. Some quickie eh.

Other options are the “strip” clubs, and the major hotel lobbies. In the first case, the girls are gorgeous 8-10, and always from Eastern Europe. The clubs are swanky, and in the nice area of town. BUT, just because she strips, doesn’t mean she will join you. These girls work for the club, and make a salary plus “commission” on drinks. Their main goal is to keep you there, drinking as long as possible, and then maybe if she likes you, she may agree to go back to your place. From those that have succeeded in getting a girl out, the fee seems to be US $ 100 for all night, which since you are leaving at 3-4 am means until 9-10 am that morning. If you want to spend $200 in drinks and tips to get laid, that’s up to you. In the second case, trolling the major hotel lobbies, it is a 50/50 proposition. If you can get one of the bellhops to point out the working girls to you, you will at least reduce the risk of propositioning the wrong lady. Again the girls are Eastern European, 19 to 28, well dressed, and pretty god looking. The fee for these girls is also $100, but if you can hook up with them early, all night means ALL night. Most of theses girls speak passable English, and you can carry on a conversation of sorts with them.

The solution I found for myself was the following. First, if I was in the mood to drink, dance and party, I would go to a place called Demirkoy Hotel. It is in the ATAKOY marina, near the Galleria shopping center and the Holiday inn. The place is basically a very old tourist vacation resort that caters almost 80% to working girls and their customers. For some reason they NEVER get raided, and I was told that they have never had any problems with bar fights etc, so generally safe. There is a nightclub there that opens around 10 pm, but doesn’t get interesting until midnight. The place is not all that imagine an old fashioned disco from the 80s and that is what it looks like. What makes the place interesting is that it is FULL of working girls. By this I men that on a slow night, here will be at least 20 girls there, and from Thursday to Saturday, there will be 40-50 girls there. The nice thing is this, they do not allow Turks in, if not the place would have 150 men in there, the majority of men in there are in Istanbul on business, and every time I went there, the men to women ratio was about 5 girls per man. The girls here are a very mixed bunch, most from Ukraine, Russia, and Romania, with a mix of Moroccan (they get a lot of Arabs here), Turks, and Iranian. The girls range from 5-8 in looks, and they all speak at least 3 languages including English. The nice thing about this place is you can sit at a table and order a bottle, ½ a bottle, or only drinks, and take in the sights. If you don’t like what you see just pay and leave. There is a price list, so you know what you will pay; the most I ever paid was $70 for 3 people. They will try to place a huge tray of fruit on it, and try to get you to order separate drinks for the girls, but the girls usually will drink with you, and if you don’t want the fruits etc, tell them, and they will not bother you again. Once you are settled in, just take your time to look for what you like, and when you find her, either get up and invite her to your table, or get a waiter to call her over. After that, it is up to you, if you want to stay and dance, or if you want to leave. Be careful, do not let the girls approach you, and sit themselves down, you will have a hard time getting them to leave. Usually the girls that come to the table are those that are desperate, haven’t a customer in a while and need money, or they are the classical pushy type *****s that are all mouth and no action. Also, make sure before you leave the place to agree on the price with the girl, again it should not be more than $100 for the night, and if you see her again, it WILL come down. Do not leve your wallet or cash in the room when you are taking a shower. Do not give the girl your tel# unless you really enjoyed it and ant to see her again, outside of this situation. Do not agree to go to her place, or take her friend along, always your place, or stay in one of the rooms at that hotel. Always use protection; the girls usually do not have any condoms, so you bring yours along (unless you enjoy playing Russian roulette with your life). These are pretty common sense things, but I thought to mention them because in our LUST, we sometimes forget the basics. I have always had good experiences at this place, by that I mean I never felt at risk, or uncomfortable, but I have picked girls that were not really pros, or good in bed. I would suggest going for the Russian and the Romanian girls, as they seem to be more uninhibited, and willing to please. I find the Moroccan and the Arab girls very prudish, and have a tendency to beg for more money after you have done the deed and generally pestering. There is a $10 entry fee, and if you leave with a girl, she will expect you to pay her $3 wardrobe fee. Tip well (door $2/maitre d $5 / and waiter $2) and when you come back you will be remembered and taken care of.

The other way I connected with working girls was through an unofficial escort service run by a Russian madam, I found this one but from what I was told there are many more like her. You call in the afternoon, tell her what you want-exactly-and she will call you back to tell you who she has available, and describe her to you. She usually has girls that have just arrived to Turkey, and as such, most of them do not speak English well. The girls she has are all 8/9 and I had one or two 10s. Once you agree on the time place etc, the girl will show up and that’s that. The fees are again $100. This is a great way to go if you don’t want to deal with leaving your hotel, and brave Istanbul traffic. All the girls from this service were MORE than adequate, and did everything I desired. Note that she may ask you for taxi money when she is leaving. Getting them into the hotel is no problem, they are used to this, and do not bother, so do not fall for any security person or doorman trying to muscle you for a tip. If you want the # for the madam, send me an e-mail, and I will send it to you.

That is all for now. I will be going to Antalya on the Med coast in July/August, and from what I have been told, it is even better down there. I will report back after my trip

Cossack

[Cossack]

To everyone who is asking for the famous madame's tel# (that was my report via email), I will get back to you by email, we don't want to ruin a good thing for ourselves do we!!!

Next, the scene down in Antalya, yes I know this is or Istanbul, but I just HAVE to tell you guys. If you like Russian babes, this is the place to be in the summer. I seems that all the girls are just 92 and 10s! I stayed in the city at the Dedeman Hotel, and from day one just had a total pigfest. First off the prices are the same, $100 for the night. Next, the girls here are all independant workers, and are here to enjoy the sun, the beach, and our dollars. I found that the whole thing is so different from the regular hunting we have to go thru. Your on the beach, meet a girl, talk, agree to meet at your hotel, go out to dinner, then a club (Club 29 rocks), go back to your hotel, fuck, have breakfast in the morning, then start all over again! I did just that for 45 days!

Suggestions:
1) do not stay at a 5 star hotel, they tried to screw me by saying they would charge for the extra "guest". There are Too many really good 3star hotels along the beach (going towards KEMER) that are absolutely no prob, and cost 1/4 of the price.

2)Enjoy yourself and make t a whole night affair, from dinner all the way thru to breakfst. I did the club pickup thing, it was good, but not as good as spending a few hours with the girl b4 getting into her panties.

3)Be aware that there are MANY regular Russian tourists in Antalya, so do not proposition a girl without making sure that she does not have Ian in tow!

4)All these girls are there to have fun, enjoy themselves, and make a little cash along the way, don't be an ass. Treat them nice, and believe me they will do the same.

5)If you liked her that much, ask her for her cell #, and meet up with her again, I did and got it for free (mid afternoon siesta sex....the best!)

Take care, lock and load, suit up, and enjoy the ride!

[BoneMachine]

Yeah.. not every French chick has hairy armpits but everyone of them that I have done has had a great big black forest of a wiki bush down there. They also seem a bit ripe compared to Mexican, Thai, Korean, Chinese, Filipino and Spanish chicks but about the same as Italians, Greeks and Puerto Ricans. They are also not as bad as local Turkish or Egyptian "business" women.These, of course, are generalizations based upon my own experience banging here, there and everywhere.

[CBGBConnisur]

French girls don't have hairy armpits. I shagged quite a few French women and didn't see any armpit hair, though they do have hairy pussies.

[USArocks]

Hey guys whats up with the Istanbul forum? It was really active a few weeks ago now its dead And right before my trip to Istanbul. LOL

Can anyone recommend some good areas to find some Russian/Ukrainian women who speak at least some English?

Thanks

[USArocks]

Does anyone here have any info/pics/phone numbers on Independent escorts in Istanbul that would come to your hotel?

I'll be staying in the 5 star Platan hotel and I am looking for a independent escort for a few hours, maybe even the full night. If anyone could send me some info at mastablue@hotmail.com i'd definitely appreciate it. Preferably a "Natasha" type girl, but any beautiful woman will be great.

I don't like the idea of handing anyone my passport, so even though I am tempted, I don't think I will be going to Serenada. In the daily papers are there any numbers for indepdendent escorts?

Info on this would be great if anyone has some.

Thanks!

[AlexGood]

I have been to the Disco in Hotel Seranda, a previous post by someone else was reasonably accurate, but you must take your ORIGINAL passport with you, without which they will not let you in, plenty of pretty girls dancing there, they looked available, also, you will not be able to sit and admire them for more than 15 minutes without buying yourself a drink. Don't take more than $100 with you, and be alert.

[USArocks]

yes, stop the nonsense. do I need to beg you guys like Local Expert and all you other guys who know the area for some info on Serenada? Or the escort scene?

I'm going there at the end of the month and really would think detailed info would be valueable

Thanks