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[Fantasy World]

Sorbonne,

I saw her ad on a site called Russian-girls-for. Me but she disappeared yesterday. She was having a tour in Istanbul.

Another girl which I knew from vodka;

http://russian-playmates.com/portfolio/view/448/

Hi hakan, I am fron Turkey and of course I am a Turkish too.

Well, as far as I know that she worked for the Vodka Escort and her name was Tina. I was searching her, I was sad because I couldn't find her. Anyway, thank you so much by letting me to know that Russian-playmates is successor to vodkaescort.

[Hakan Demir]

Sorbonne,

I saw her ad on a site called Russian-girls-for. Me but she disappeared yesterday. She was having a tour in Istanbul.

Another girl which I knew from vodka; http://russian-playmates.com/portfolio/view/448/

Mind me asking which agency Sofi now works for? I've never met her but remember her in the photos, as I once considered her.

I also noticed that, coincidentally or now, Exotic Retreat, which is Vodka's rival in Dominican Republic, had been out of operation for over two months now.

Scary.

[Sorbonne]

I also had great experiences with vodka escort especially with city tours. I think that the agency was closed due to some reason cause I saw one of my favourite escort working with another agency. You might know her as well.

Her name was Sofi.

Mind me asking which agency Sofi now works for? I've never met her but remember her in the photos, as I once considered her.

I also noticed that, coincidentally or now, Exotic Retreat, which is Vodka's rival in Dominican Republic, had been out of operation for over two months now.

Scary.

[Hakan Demir]

I also had great experiences with vodka escort especially with city tours. I think that the agency was closed due to some reason cause I saw one of my favourite escort working with another agency. You might know her as well.

Her name was Sofi.

Sad news about irregularities in vodkaescort: Stood up in Kiev.

I have had several good experiences in the past with both the girls and administration at.

www.vodkaescort.com.

The girls have been gorgeous, intelligent, not "banged out" and very good company. In my book. 600-700 Euro for a 24 hours "sure thing" with a girl like that is a good deal, and I am not strong enough to deal with the normal Ukrainean scene anyway (it is truly correct what others have reported about Ukraine: If you can't pull a girl in your homeland, you probably can't pull one in Ukraine either. Probably not even a pro in a nightclub!).

Vodkaescort is definetely not at scam-company. They don't want a deposit and have delivered solidly in the past. The pictures have been real, and the girls I have seen have looked better in reality than on the pictures (that often look a bit over-the-top made-up to my taste). But recently I booked a girl on a 48 hour offer including accommodation and transportation from the airport, and with everything sercurily confirmed I booked a ticket to Kiev.

But the last 3 days before my travel I could get any messages back from the company and that gave me bad premonitions.

Sure enough: Upon arrival in Kiev and through my whole weekend in Kiev I heard nothing from them and could not get in contact! Starting with being stranded at the airport late at night I had a lonely, expensive trip to Kiev.

I would therefore advice caution about banking on the service of vodkaescort right now, but would still recommend trying to get an appointment with them if you happen to be in Ukraine anyway.

Cheers,

Dolph

[LifeSavour]

Help guys.

I have been in the Middle East 'prison' working. Just found out I have 15 days of freedom!

Will go to Red Sea.

But I have NO girl (or girls) to meet! And little time now to convince one I am ok, safe to travel too.

Anyone have a girl or 2's contact info that would be interested? Would come? Nice 'tour' from Kyiv?

8 or 9 days?

Thanks in advance!

LS guy

[Dolph Lundgren]

Sad news about irregularities in vodkaescort: Stood up in Kiev.

I have had several good experiences in the past with both the girls and administration at www.vodkaescort.com. The girls have been gorgeous, intelligent, not "banged out" and very good company. In my book. 600-700 Euro for a 24 hours "sure thing" with a girl like that is a good deal, and I am not strong enough to deal with the normal Ukrainean scene anyway (it is truly correct what others have reported about Ukraine: If you can't pull a girl in your homeland, you probably can't pull one in Ukraine either. Probably not even a pro in a nightclub!).

Vodkaescort is definetely not at scam-company. They don't want a deposit and have delivered solidly in the past. The pictures have been real, and the girls I have seen have looked better in reality than on the pictures (that often look a bit over-the-top made-up to my taste). But recently I booked a girl on a 48 hour offer including accommodation and transportation from the airport, and with everything sercurily confirmed I booked a ticket to Kiev.

But the last 3 days before my travel I could get any messages back from the company and that gave me bad premonitions.

Sure enough: Upon arrival in Kiev and through my whole weekend in Kiev I heard nothing from them and could not get in contact! Starting with being stranded at the airport late at night I had a lonely, expensive trip to Kiev.

I would therefore advice caution about banking on the service of vodkaescort right now, but would still recommend trying to get an appointment with them if you happen to be in Ukraine anyway.

Cheers,

Dolph

[Sorbonne]

Whatever your opinion of Yulia going down for 7 years, at least it brought some our favourite Ukrainian ladies of FEMEN back on to the streets:

http://www.demotix.com/news/868412/f...moshenko-trial

Can only be a good thing.

VG

Valery,

Cool! Thanks. I miss the scene in Kiev.

[Gergiev]

Whatever your opinion of Yulia going down for 7 years, at least it brought some our favourite Ukrainian ladies of FEMEN back on to the streets:

http://www.demotix.com/news/868412/f...moshenko-trial

Can only be a good thing...

VG

[Prosal]

respect.

Seconded. Empathis and respect take you far. Women immediatly feel when a man approach them solely with a selfish "what can I get from her" perspective and don't respect them as a person. The right dose of aloofness (blended with forwardness at the right moments) also wins you points. If you show too much interest, the girl will lose interest. Of course, this is in the romantic game. When it comes to drunk club sluts, strategy is all different. (smilie)

[Himself]

For those who enjoy to "play the game" (and are good at it).

The mamba (new?)"dating tool" has never been mentionned it seems. Many girls looking for coffee, dinner or clubbing dates (with no obligation). Organized as a calendar, and by location. As an exemple. 87 women look for a "date in cafe" in Kiev on Saturday. 33 for "date for dinner":

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/?day=2..._10165_10184_0

Can't find where to click on the mamba front page for quick access, but the link is:

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/

I personally like dating. Play your cards right, be a good and witty conversationalist, dress with style and refinment, don't show too much eagerness, create a fun atmosphere, and the conclusion will maybe not be immediate, but you'll sooner or later (often sooner than later) reap what you sow.

Exactly. I also like this way. And it works in most cases, however, do not expect sex on first date, but if no sex on 2nd (3rd under special circumstances) meeting then go back to the search function in mamba.

No sex on first date? . The trick is to continuous date 2-3 girls in parallel and in this way you always have one who is at the 2nd or 3rd meeting. And fresh meet is available in a rolling base. You invite the first girl for a meeting in a cafe at around 19 and at 22 you will tell her that you have to get up early because of a meeting early in the morning, she will take as a real gentleman as you are not pushing for sex, but make it clear that she is very beautiful and sexy, if you unfortunate not had to get up early then something would have happened. You will meet with the next girl which is the 2nd or 3rd meeting at 22:30 and you will tell her that you are in Ukraine and had to have dinner with some business partners. She will appreciate that you are a successful and busy man and after a couple of hours around 00:30 it is time to start moving to your apartment. It is important to stay in an apartment in the centre close to the cafés. Do not stay in a hotel, normal girls do seldom go there as they are aware that the reception and security will consider and look at them as prostitutes.

The above system is workable but requires a bit of time management and also you need to spend time in mamba to get in contact with your dates, but I think it is fun, and it is a nice play to be well, fashion dressed and be a gentlemen when you meet the beautiful girls. Show the girls respect and act as a gentlemen and the chances that there is a pay-back is high. If the girl start talking about money and she need shopping, then you have to make a decision if you say early good bye, or you will pay for sex that night. As the girl in front of you knows this business and she did this before and the risk that you will get some bad and expensive sex is existing. But also be good to the non-pro girls. This will be paid back to you in ten-fold: Most of the girls are normal girls students or working as a secretary or in shop for 300, maximum 5-600 USD per month. Give them a little money to support or they can buy the shoes they wanted. But don't do it as direct payment for sex. When they leave give them 100 grn for the taxi together with 50 or 100 USD. And say that you want to see her in some sexy dress next time. She will be very happy for you.

[Prosal]

For those who enjoy to "play the game" (and are good at it).

The mamba (new?)"dating tool" has never been mentionned it seems. Many girls looking for coffee, dinner or clubbing dates (with no obligation). Organized as a calendar, and by location. As an exemple. 87 women look for a "date in cafe" in Kiev on Saturday. 33 for "date for dinner":

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/?day=2..._10165_10184_0

Can't find where to click on the mamba front page for quick access, but the link is:

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/

I personally like dating. Play your cards right, be a good and witty conversationalist, dress with style and refinment, don't show too much eagerness, create a fun atmosphere, and the conclusion will maybe not be immediate, but you'll sooner or later (often sooner than later) reap what you sow.

[Krhth11]

Hi guys I'm visiting Ukraine for the first time in November for a week of holidays

Is it better to rent an apartment or stay at a hotel any recommendations?

Also is Kiev the better option or would you recommend the country side any tips highly appreciated.

Thanks

[Gergiev]

What are some of the steps you take in order to make sure that you don't kidnapped and held for ransom?

Have you considered kidnapping yourself?

The best form of defence is usually to attack.

So what you could do on arrival in Kiev is this...

Immediately after exiting the terminal grab your own arm with the other one and twist it as far behind your back as you can.

Then bundle yourself into the back of the nearest waiting taxi.

Make sure when booking your accommodation to choose one with a very deep cellar.

On arrival at your apartment, open the door of this cellar and throw yourself down the steps as hard as you can.

Remain there for approx 3 days or so without food, drink or light.

On exiting the cellar after those 3 days, proceed to take a substantial amount of cash out of one of your pockets and transfer it to the other and consider your ransom paid.

Head out on the town and spend your newly acquired largesse on as many Dyevs As humanly possible.

Hope that helps...

[Harry Hirsch]

This is a riddle, or?

I'm been 12 times in Ukraine, Kiev, Crimea, Odessa and Truskavets.

2 days before I come home from a trip with Car from Truskavets.

Not any Problem, ever.

What I do, never go to dark streets, not in Ukraine, not in Frankfurt a / M.

Normally safeness's, at any time. Thats all.

Take your Passport all time with you!

Make at home a copy from Passport and I'd card, FlightTicket.

Safe it on your Mail Account.

You not need it)

Enjoy Ukraine and the Girls

[Nichyevo]

Dear travelers of Ukraine,

What are some of the steps you take in order to make sure that you don't get robbed, or kidnapped and held for ransom?

I would appreciate your input on this matter.