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[Sorbonne]

Ukraine gov want to use her legal sex industry to save her declining economy. Will she be second brothel of Europe after Germany in 2002?

Many brothels will be opened under licenses. Many Russian speaking girls will come to join this sex labor market for higher earning. However, how about the quality of LU? It may be depended upon the free visa of Ukraine citizens access to Eu or not. Anyway, this will be a good new for Mongers in the West.

https://sputniknews.com/europe/20161...nitiative.html

Let me add this:

"Ukraine Becoming Poorest Country in Europe".

https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160...austerity.html

[MikeTk1974]

Ukraine gov want to use her legal sex industry to save her declining economy. Will she be second brothel of Europe after Germany in 2002?

Many brothels will be opened under licenses. Many Russian speaking girls will come to join this sex labor market for higher earning. However, how about the quality of LU? It may be depended upon the free visa of Ukraine citizens access to Eu or not. Anyway, this will be a good new for Mongers in the West.

https://sputniknews.com/europe/20161...nitiative.html

[Michi T]

OT: I guess Mamba is largely fake, maybe I am wrong.

1. I was. Despite investing lots of time. Not so successful with Mamba.

2. See these profiles (just one example out of many), all with the same photos - http://www.mamba.ru/mb1653778502?sp=2 / http://www.mamba.ru/mb1652600506?sp=3 / http://www.mamba.ru/mb1652321390?sp=3.

[Riina]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-New-York.html

Here's a guy that did not understand Ua girls are creatures that can not be controlled.

[Michi T]

She arrived today in Odessa, I went to pick her up at the bus station. After 20 minutes waiting on the wrong side of the bus terminal, I finally found her (I did not have time to buy a local SIM card). We then took the tram to the hotel (after 30 minutes waiting). I gave her one of my two water bottles which I bought in the afternoon.

After taking a shower back in the hotel, we went out for a walk and for dinner. Sharing a pizza two drinks didn't cost the world. Nonetheless, I was starting to think why I am doing this and what is my benefit for being a sponsor. Bus is on me, tram is on me, restaurant is on me, separate hotel room is on me.

After restaurant, on the walk back to the hotel I got horny. Was thinking about "Jojosun's" words (it's your chance to fuck a MILF. " My little friend got hard and big. So, I hold her hands on the way back. She did not protest.

Back in the hote she went to her room and I went to my room. I wanted to kiss her (tongue kiss) but she rejected. Kind of. And I had the impression that she does have the best smell in her mouth. But this can also be a wrong impression that I got.

She is not ugly at all. Still good looking for her age. But simply not my type. I like young slutty girls with big boobs. She is an older conservative nice lady. Not really my type and I guess I could not have sex with her. On the other hand, she is verx kind, so I would have bad feelings to send her back home tomorrow. I believe you have no chance than to do a full sightseeing day with her tomorrow and pay and pay and pay.

As Jojuson said, I will lose around 110+ $ and learn my lessons. And from Saturday evening on, I will be free again and talk to girls on the street. Wow, the ones today were so sexy, so hot, so pretty. I met one which came across the corner. She looked and me because she realized that I looked at her (booobs and ass). After two minutes I changed my direction and followed her "excuse me, I saw you just a few minutes ago. And I think you did something with me. I feel like soooo confused because of you. ". She was not sure if she wants to meet with me. But after some smart talks she gave me her number.

[Jojosun]

Good points, hehe.

First, she is already 39 years old. I actually prefer younger chicks. I never had sex or kisses with such an old chick.

Second, on the Mamba photos, she still looks great (which was confirmed by another monger). But what in reality? What if she looks old and ugly? Brrrrr.

Third, some user was thinking that could be a Mafia scam to kill me? Hmmm.

I tend to go by solution be and pay for bus ( 1'00 UAH return ticket) and hotel ( 1'000 UAH) and probably also restaurant I hope this investment will pay out.

Good points, hehe.

First, she is already 39 years old. I actually prefer younger chicks. I never had sex or kisses with such an old chick.

Second, on the Mamba photos, she still looks great (which was confirmed by another monger). But what in reality? What if she looks old and ugly? Brrrrr.

Third, some user was thinking that could be a Mafia scam to kill me? Hmmm.

I tend to go by solution be and pay for bus ( 1'00 UAH return ticket) and hotel ( 1'000 UAH) and probably also restaurant I hope this investment will pay out.

1- You've never fucked, kissed a MILF 39 years old before? Now is the time as it could be the best sex you've ever had. Those EE MILFs are really horny as local men their age & over are too drunk to fuck them most of the time anyway.

2 If she looks old and ugly? That's the risk & excitement of Mongering for you and you've got to take the rough with the smooth. Although I'haven't got a clue what she looks like, I don't think she is old and ugly. Anyway she wanted separate rooms, right?

Treat her with respect and explain to her what you were looking for, if she's not to your liking. Just treat her as a newly acquired Friend wing woman who could do the hunting, scouting, negotiations for you, a contact. That's what my Present Donetsk girl does from me now she's nearly 29 years old.

Has she asked you at this stage for any money upfront?

3 . The local Mafia don't seem to be in a hurry to kill you as their 39 years old female would be Assassin is coming to you by bus, that's a 7 hour Bus Ride http://autolux.ua/en/schedule/77 Kiev-Odessa 7:30 14:35.

You go by your solution be and it will only cost you based on the above IE bus+Hotel +an extra UAH1000 = Total UAH 3000 = US $112 You hardly need a Second mortgage for that Mongering Investment and it won't be the Final Solution either.

Cheers and let us know how your negotiations with her are going.

[Michi T]

Why will it be difficult for you to get her if you have separate rooms?? If you're confident with your looks and have game, treat her well, there's no problem and you also have a good night sleep as well.

"Happy couples, separate beds: The joy of sleeping apart"http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifest...020-story.html.

Good points, hehe.

First, she is already 39 years old. I actually prefer younger chicks. I never had sex or kisses with such an old chick.

Second, on the Mamba photos, she still looks great (which was confirmed by another monger). But what in reality? What if she looks old and ugly? Brrrrr.

Third, some user was thinking that could be a Mafia scam to kill me? Hmmm.

I tend to go by solution be and pay for bus ( 1'00 UAH return ticket) and hotel ( 1'000 UAH) and probably also restaurant I hope this investment will pay out.

[Jojosun]

I managed to order a 39-years-old girl (a normal girl, not a professional) from www.mamba.ru to come from Kiev down to Odessa by bus. She want's to have her own hotel room. Needless to say that I am supposed to pay for both transport and hotel room and of course also for food.

On the one hand, I like the idea that she will have her own room. Why? - If she is ugly, then I don't need to be with her. I can say that I don't feel good and need some sleep. And adios. On the other hand, if she is good looking, it will be difficult to "get her" if we have dirrent rooms.

On the photos in Mamba she is still good looking without wriknles and with nice body and boobs. But in reality can be totally different, I mean she is already 39..

Why will it be difficult for you to get her if you have separate rooms?? If you're confident with your looks and have game, treat her well, there's no problem and you also have a good night sleep as well.

"Happy couples, separate beds: The joy of sleeping apart"http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifest...020-story.html.

[Jojosun]

I managed to order a 39-years-old girl (a normal girl, not a professional) from www.mamba.ru to come from Kiev down to Odessa

What would you fellow mongers advice me in such a situation.

A) provide own hotel room for the girl or take her to mine and on arrival say "sorry, hotel was sold out, so no second room possibl3".

B) take her for two nights or only for one or agree with two nights and send her back after one night if she is guly, saying "sorry, there is something with my job, I must travel back home asa".

Go by plan (B). For 2 Nights. An extra night cost for a room at a hotel is worth it and its not that expensive + Transport by bus.

If you read my reports back in 2009 with my Donetsk girl from Mamba, that's what I did. 7 years later she's still my wing woman and best scout for girls as she's into girls herself being BI. My best investment ever In Ukraine.

First time I met her she came down by train from Donetsk and I had already booked her another room for 2 nights but I only intended to stay one night as I had to fly out.

Young 22 years at the time, bubbly, speaks OK English, had great time with her. Left her some money as well and 2 weeks later I flew back to see her again and doing the same Plan, IE sex in one room and we sleep in separate rooms which is my Modus Operandi in my Sex Life, Civvie or mongering.

You've got to invest a bit in mongering to reap rewards.

[Volpone]

I am trying hard with Mamba Odessa but no success so far. I have only one chick in Nilolaev (where I will also go) who is willing ot meet but she does not even speak one single word of English.

So you can try that:

http://odessa.relaxportal.biz/eng/map/

And you can go to these apartments, they are all in the center.

[Michi T]

If you are in Odessa or if you will be in Odessa, just hunt girls in Odessa in mamba. It seems you are wasting money for nothing. Maybe that's a guy of the Ukrainian mafia behind the pics of your 39 years old girl. As long as you have not seen her in real, you never know. Furthermore skype don't count, they can just use any girl for that purpose.

I am trying hard with Mamba Odessa but no success so far. I have only one chick in Nilolaev (where I will also go) who is willing ot meet but she does not even speak one single word of English.

[Volpone]

I managed to order a 39-years-old girl (a normal girl, not a professional) from www.mamba.ru to come from Kiev down to Odessa by bus. She want's to have her own hotel room. Needless to say that I am supposed to pay for both transport and hotel room and of course also for food.

On the one hand, I like the idea that she will have her own room. Why? - If she is ugly, then I don't need to be with her. I can say that I don't feel good and need some sleep. And adios. On the other hand, if she is good looking, it will be difficult to "get her" if we have dirrent rooms.

On the photos in Mamba she is still good looking without wriknles and with nice body and boobs. But in reality can be totally different, I mean she is already 39.

What would you fellow mongers advice me in such a situation.

A) provide own hotel room for the girl or take her to mine and on arrival say "sorry, hotel was sold out, so no second room possibl3".

B) take her for two nights or only for one or agree with two nights and send her back after one night if she is guly, saying "sorry, there is something with my job, I must travel back home asa".

If you are in Odessa or if you will be in Odessa, just hunt girls in Odessa in mamba. It seems you are wasting money for nothing. Maybe that's a guy of the Ukrainian mafia behind the pics of your 39 years old girl. As long as you have not seen her in real, you never know. Furthermore skype don't count, they can just use any girl for that purpose.

[Michi T]

I managed to order a 39-years-old girl (a normal girl, not a professional) from www.mamba.ru to come from Kiev down to Odessa by bus. She want's to have her own hotel room. Needless to say that I am supposed to pay for both transport and hotel room and of course also for food.

On the one hand, I like the idea that she will have her own room. Why? - If she is ugly, then I don't need to be with her. I can say that I don't feel good and need some sleep. And adios. On the other hand, if she is good looking, it will be difficult to "get her" if we have dirrent rooms.

On the photos in Mamba she is still good looking without wriknles and with nice body and boobs. But in reality can be totally different, I mean she is already 39.

What would you fellow mongers advice me in such a situation.

A) provide own hotel room for the girl or take her to mine and on arrival say "sorry, hotel was sold out, so no second room possibl3".

B) take her for two nights or only for one or agree with two nights and send her back after one night if she is guly, saying "sorry, there is something with my job, I must travel back home asa".

[Russel4339]

Some guy adviced to rent apartment instead of hotel. Isn't that dangeroug? What if you stay in an apartment and reject a girl because she looks different than on the advertisement? Couldn't she / her pimp be dangrous for you in such a situation? When staying in a hotel, they can hardly do something bad to you.

Also. Depending on the size of the apartment building and used mainly as a hotel. They will usually have someone on duty during the night to aid guests if there are problems with the rooms. Always good to know where the office is in the apartment building.

[Volpone]

If you hate that idea to get another girl that the one on the photos, don't go to Ukraine.

However it might work better with gia. I never called them because I think that's overprice for a country like Ukraine.

Just read the reports about gia or some of my adventures in Ukraine the last 2 years or some other reports of members here. Then you won't have to ask general questions already discussed on this forum, because you will know as much as us.

I have forgotten. You can also go to some apartments in the center of Kiev. Just read my reports about that. Look from the date of the end of 2014 and 2015.