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[Schluckerl]

Dose any of you guys have experience playing there. Thinking of going for three weeks stay in Kiev for poker and fun. Woud be happy for any info on Kiev poker sceen!

It is in Kreshatik hotel, about 20 tables (mostly small tournaments) , open 24 hours. Buddha Bar is in the next door, so when you win you know where you can go.

[Reiner Otto]

Dose any of you guys have experience playing there. Thinking of going for three weeks stay in Kiev for poker and fun. Woud be happy for any info on Kiev poker sceen!

No idea about this one, but I recommend you "Taleon Club" in St. Petersburg, Russia, as an alternative.

From inside, it looks like a museum, very stylish, excellent restaurant and top class hotel as well.

They also play serious tournaments for high rollers there from time to time.

Good luck.

[Tomux 22]

Dose any of you guys have experience playing there. Thinking of going for three weeks stay in Kiev for poker and fun. Woud be happy for any info on Kiev poker sceen!

[Vitrea]

I see the FEMEN girls made it to Moscow for the election last week.

They managed to protest at Putin's polling station before being dragged away.

http://cryptome.org/2012-info/femen-...emen-putin.htm

Takes more than minus eleven (-11C) to deter our girls.

Maybe Putin was right to fear a Ukrainian style, Orange camp out in Pushkin Ploschad in central Moscow, after all!

The brunette without tattoos is hot and feisty! The long haired blonde with Anorexia sign is also very hot.

[Gergiev]

I see the FEMEN girls made it to Moscow for the election last week.

They managed to protest at Putin's polling station before being dragged away.

http://cryptome.org/2012-info/femen-...emen-putin.htm

Takes more than minus eleven (-11C) to deter our girls.

Maybe Putin was right to fear a Ukrainian style, Orange camp out in Pushkin Ploschad in central Moscow, after all!

[Gergiev]

does anyone else think these girls are getting more wacko and less relevant over time?

As they drift into more mainstream issues, especially out of Ukraine or Russia, it just becomes a publicity stunt, like Pamela Anderson posing for PETA.

GT, you're on the right track, I'm sure.

Their 'protests' have definitely taken on a life of their own.

Like a cross between one of Ken Kesey's prankster capers and modern day 'flash mobs' (er, pun half-intended).

But if you take feminine (as opposed to feminist) logic and mix it with some of that wild Ukrainian oestrogen, should we really be surprised?

Personally, I'm all for it and hang the consequences.

[Gentleman Travel]

Great news Comrades. The legendary FEMEN girls made it to Davos.

After 5 days of gloom and torpor, just when the assembled press contingent thought they were about to pass away from boredom and frostbite, our favourite ladies sprang out of their igloos and set the place alight.

http://femen.livejournal.com/192248.html

While I approve of topless or nude female protesters, no matter what their message, does anyone else think these girls are getting more wacko and less relevant over time?

It seems to me they used to focus on Ukrainian issues, especially around feminist issues and the treatment of women generally. Thus the nude protesting was ironic, thus interesting and funny, even if not always sending the message they wanted (most of the attention they get is because guys like hot naked Ukrainian women and are prepared to ignore the rest of the package and message). As they drift into more mainstream issues, especially out of Ukraine or Russia, it just becomes a publicity stunt, like Pamela Anderson posing for PETA.

[AColonizer]

Gorgeous! FEMEN, FEMEN, FEMEN!

Great news Comrades. The legendary FEMEN girls made it to Davos.

After 5 days of gloom and torpor, just when the assembled press contingent thought they were about to pass away from boredom and frostbite, our favourite ladies sprang out of their igloos and set the place alight.

http://femen.livejournal.com/192248.html

[Gergiev]

Great news Comrades - the legendary FEMEN girls made it to Davos.

After 5 days of gloom and torpor, just when the assembled press contingent thought they were about to pass away from boredom and frostbite, our favourite ladies sprang out of their igloos and set the place alight -

http://femen.livejournal.com/192248.html

[Saunter]

Hi guys, just wanted to get some info on the local situation on genuine Apple products. Will be posting this on both the Russia and Ukraine general section.

Anyone here actually living / working there locally, or have any knowledge of getting Apple phones from legitimate retail shops?

One of my colleagues in Australia contacted me and asked what the prices of the iPhone4S and iPad2 cost in Moscow and Kiev. In terms of the phone, I am talking about non-contract / unlocked handsets, so it is NOT sign up to a telecom provider for 2yrs or something. He told me that Australia happens to be one of the 6-8 countries which receives all new Apple releases at the same time of the US releases. Especially with the iPhones, the Australian phones are unlocked so they can be used anywhere and with any sim cards. He had heard that iPhones can retail up to $1500USD over in Kiev and asked if I could find anyone there wanting any stock from Australia.

I am interested in the opportunity and yes, I will be making a cut out of it as I am going to work with him. Currently, we are already taking the phones to other countries which do not get the products until 3-4 months after the US release. So Ukraine and Russia is an untapped market for us and we are curious about the possibilities.

I have found a website selling Apple products, call Cirtus, http://www. Citrus. Ua.

But as I cannot read cyrillic, I don't know how authentic this company is. They are selling the iPhone 4S and the prices seems very reasonable, actually, very close to Australian retail prices. But I don't know how they are doing this because I heard Apple has no official sales channels in Ukraine yet?

Anyone, who can genuinely help, please PM me as soon as possible.

[Sponsor74]

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[Ella1984]

Hello, where are you located? In Kiev or where? Erotic massage and sex too?

Jes possible after massage sex too I whant make you 1 hour massage and after sex till happy ending.

But how, when and where we can meet?

[Sponsor74]

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Hello, where are you located? In Kiev or where? Erotic massage and sex too?

[Ella1984]

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If some man intrested write me here and we can meeting.

[It Travel]

I appreciate your advice. I already contacted a Rent a Car Agency. For a cheap price, around 35 $ a day. For a small car.

I speak bad Russian but I can manage myself with difficulty and I can read little. (but always for simple and daily pratical things and not to open a long discussion.

I will consider your advice. I will rent a car for 2 days and try how things will be going. And if everything will be ok. I will take more time.

And what about safety? Is it safe to drive day or night in Kiev or to leave the car in the street by night? Any idea?

Thanks again.

In central Kiev a car is just a pain in the ass. I prefer the metro and walking (by the way it's not so cold now). In some hours aroud 18. 00 it's a total chaos.

If you have european navigator Kiev in any case is mapped.

I have been travelling by car to Kiev a couple of times, because I had to go to a lot of places in the middle of nowhere, but in Kiev I simply forgot my car in the courtyard of the building where I rent an apartment.

For a couple of days I'll take metro and taxis. Usually they do not move if you do not get a minimal fee 80-100 even 150 grivans, but if you rent him for 3 hours taking you from one place to the other. It might be convenient.

Mind that in UA alchool driving is 0. 0. And it can be a pain in the ass if the police stops you even two hours after a beer.

By the way the major companies (with no hidden costs and a full insured vehicle) are around 120-150 USD for two days for a Ford Fiesta.

Generally, if you find one, it's safe to park, but you might have your car removed by the police too (another pain in the ass)

If you have to travel a lot in the suburbs and, for istance to Lvov, having a car could be a good idea, absolutely not in a crazy jammed city (once I stayed more than 2 hours in a taxi on the bridge!) with good public transport system.

By the way, just as a chronichle is Moscow it's by far worse.

IT