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[Y6909]

I hate to tell you this but the golden time was before 2002...1995 until maybe 2002 was pure heaven. So what the hell were you sitting on your ass for during the last 10 years and why are you waiting two more years before you would come over? What are you afraid of, real live in-the-flesh girls?

No. Please say that's not true. Please don't say that golden times are over!

Not afraid of live women, just had other commitments. I got by reading the wonderful sex adventures and stories of others and forgot about making my own.

Now I'm making my own. Have had several here in north america and soon hopefully in Europe.

By the way is Odessa a good place for meeting women? Have seen so many sexy women from there on the internet.

Odessa and Nikolaev seem loaded with sexy women. Maybe better than Kiev?

[Uke Boy]

I'd like to take a trip to Ukraine before 2012, even though I feel I might have missed some of the golden times of the last ten years.

I hate to tell you this but the golden time was before 2002...1995 until maybe 2002 was pure heaven. So what the hell were you sitting on your ass for during the last 10 years and why are you waiting two more years before you would come over? What are you afraid of, real live in-the-flesh girls?

[Bez Bezarra]

I've been a very long time poster on many ru dot net places dating sites, chat sites, sex sites, and 'marriage' sites over the last ten years.

From then on I've spent thousands of dollars online.

Thousands of dollars spent over 10 years of jerking off to russian sex websites, but you never had the sand to put down your little mouse and pack a suitcase to go over there and fuck a real human female for $80.

Well, at least you're finally ready now. You're the perfect type to go over and hang out with the bragger crew that can't post fotos. Hook up with them, and you'll be posting incredible stories.

[Y6909]

This is my very first post here. I'm a very long time lurker on this type of sites. Although I've been a member on Jackson's USA board several years now.

I've been a very long time lurker and incidental poster on many
ru dot net places and dating sites, chat sites, sex sites, and 'marriage' sites over the last ten years. If you want sites I can list many OCHEN OCHEN!

I've written many (moshinittsas?) bitches over the last ten years.

I think it started around back in 2000 for me, when I posted a personals ad on match dot com. The only replys I got after two months was from some young woman in Ukraine who was probably a scammer. But she was very sexy and her photos were nice. From then on I was hooked, and over the last ten years I've spent thousands of dollars and made a couple of decent online friends.

I'd like to take a trip to Ukraine before 2012, even though I feel I might have missed some of the golden times of the last ten years.

[Volpone]

Question to those that have travled the region: Ukraine? Hungury? Russia? Romania? Somewhere else?

I have been to Brazil, Thailand, Cambodia, Budapest and have been with Ukranians in Dominican Republic.

I now want to hit 1 or 2 places in Eastern Europe to visit these beauties in their homeland.

What country (or city) do you think offers the best selection, ease or operation (locating talent) and all around best attitude, willingness and beauty. Beauty and attitude being the most important.

Price is always a consideration. But not necessarily the most important.

Would really appreciate any suggestions on the best way to go!

Thanks,

MG

Hello Sirnoir,

I've been in 3 of the 4 countries you mention.
Best in these countries is to speak their language, you will get a better price...

Russia would be very good for the price, if you don't go to Moskow and St-Petersburg and if you are able to speak at least average level of Russian...Furthermore you need a visa which will make everything a bit more complicated....

Ukraine would be very good too as most of Europeans don't need a visa or if you need one, that would be easier to get than the Russian one. That will depend on your nationality.
Price would be better in other cities than kiev and Odessa. Go to Kharkov or Dnepropetrovsk, but you really have to be able to speak Russian, otherwise you will pay more and everything will be more complicated.

For the other countries, better to forgotten them...

[Tradewinds]

I have been visiting Kiev on many occasions in the last 12 months, love the country for many reasons, two most importantly, women and general cost of living. I am seriously thinking of moving permanently to Ukraine permanently and buying a property, so I would love to hear from anybody who has moved there.

I am in Kiev about 2 to 3 times a month. Please contact me, I need to pick your brains.

Here is one I am currently enjoying.

Cheers Trade

[Longhardlook]

Guys, thanks for the comments.

As my trip is for only for 4 days I think then I will leave the big suitcase behind and travel lightly with only handluggage.

Waiting up to around an hour to get through is sort of okay, I thought it may have been much longer than that after reading about that optional $200 fast track through the airport fee.

So once off the plane it is suvival of the fittest! I can do that.

Regards

Longhardlook,

Don't worry, it is not that bad. Just try to be near the bus door for the ride from the plane and try to get to the front of the line for non Ukrainians thru passport control. Make sure you complete on the plane the 'rinky dink' Customs form they give you enroute. The Customs people do look closely at the passport, but the line while slow does move (so get to the front of the line if possible). Once thru Passport control, your bags should be there for pickup. Remember to pick up a couple of the 'free' Kiev maps they have on numerous racks. It helps to have one when out walking in Kiev to help orient one's self. You will have to have your baggage run thru a scanner once you link up with it, but then you should be able to move past the inspection lines unless they pull you in. Just look normal and you should walk right out. I travelled to Kiev 4 times last year and the longest time to get thru plus grab my bag has been 35-45 minutes. Once outside I have the apartment rental agency have a car and driver there to wisk me into the city. I have had 4 painless entrys thru KBP airport. You may need to pick up some grivna, but I have always agreed to pay my driver in $$ and then convert my dollars near the city center where the exchange rate is always better.

Once at my apartment I pick up needed supplies (exchange $$, phone top off, some basic food). When topping off your phone check to see if they have any delas running (last year LG had a deal for you to pay 35 rph and you got 70 rph worth of calls. Not sure if this is still the case). You may need to pick up cheap phone or bring your own unlocked phone. Good luck and let us know how things go.

Hunter

[HunterDave]

Hello Uke Boy,

As I am flying into Kiev soon for the first time, the more I read about this shitty airport the more I'm dreading it. Apparantly around $200US is the normal fee to pay any Tour agency (who presumably has the right connections) to be whisked through passport control, baggage and customs in a reasonable amount of time. Allowing this to go on I'm afraid, says a lot about the country.

Longhardlook,

Don't worry, it is not that bad. Just try to be near the bus door for the ride from the plane and try to get to the front of the line for non Ukrainians thru passport control. Make sure you complete on the plane the 'rinky dink' Customs form they give you enroute. The Customs people do look closely at the passport, but the line while slow does move (so get to the front of the line if possible). Once thru Passport control, your bags should be there for pickup. Remember to pick up a couple of the 'free' Kiev maps they have on numerous racks. It helps to have one when out walking in Kiev to help orient one's self. You will have to have your baggage run thru a scanner once you link up with it, but then you should be able to move past the inspection lines unless they pull you in. Just look normal and you should walk right out. I travelled to Kiev 4 times last year and the longest time to get thru plus grab my bag has been 35-45 minutes. Once outside I have the apartment rental agency have a car and driver there to wisk me into the city. I have had 4 painless entrys thru KBP airport. You may need to pick up some grivna, but I have always agreed to pay my driver in $$ and then convert my dollars near the city center where the exchange rate is always better.

Once at my apartment I pick up needed supplies (exchange $$, phone top off, some basic food). When topping off your phone check to see if they have any delas running (last year LG had a deal for you to pay 35 rph and you got 70 rph worth of calls. Not sure if this is still the case). You may need to pick up cheap phone or bring your own unlocked phone. Good luck and let us know how things go.

Hunter

[TheKnight]

It's crap but the big problem is just the time it takes sometimes to get through passport control and customs, not to mention waiting for the baggage.

It is a crap shoot but just not worth the $200. Just be patient, move with the passport control queue, wait for your luggage (you could be lucky) and just pass through the green line in customs. At worst, from deplaning to the exit could be about an hour maximum.

It is just a bigger pain for those of us who go back and forth all the time and have to face this ugliness with some frequency. But a one-off such as yours is not an issue.

Completely agree. Once I whisked through in just 15 minutes from off plane to on the road. Last time it was 50 minutes to get through immigratsiya alone. And don't think the luggage return display is 100% accurate - twice my flight's luggage has turned up on the wrong carousel, so if you're waiting more than 5 minutes just walk up and down all of them!

Save the $200 for a night out - or in

[Uke Boy]

Hello Uke Boy,

As I am flying into Kiev soon for the first time, the more I read about this shitty airport the more I'm dreading it. Apparantly around $200US is the normal fee to pay any Tour agency (who presumably has the right connections) to be whisked through passport control, baggage and customs in a reasonable amount of time. Allowing this to go on I'm afraid, says a lot about the country.

It's crap but the big problem is just the time it takes sometimes to get through passport control and customs, not to mention waiting for the baggage.

It is a crap shoot but just not worth the $200. Just be patient, move with the passport control queue, wait for your luggage (you could be lucky) and just pass through the green line in customs. At worst, from deplaning to the exit could be about an hour maximum.

It is just a bigger pain for those of us who go back and forth all the time and have to face this ugliness with some frequency. But a one-off such as yours is not an issue.

[Longhardlook]

Hello Uke Boy,

As I am flying into Kiev soon for the first time, the more I read about this shitty airport the more I'm dreading it. Apparantly around $200US is the normal fee to pay any Tour agency (who presumably has the right connections) to be whisked through passport control, baggage and customs in a reasonable amount of time. Allowing this to go on I'm afraid, says a lot about the country.

G

<<Since this is Ukraine we are talking about, an additional queue manned by the usual slow and incompetent personnel at the airport before the nightmare that is passport control would make life truly miserable there.

[Sirnoir]

And the rest of us are so right in not answering your request. This a forum where contributions are essential. If you do not feel comfortable in contributing, you should not ask for help.

Fair enough. I shall endevor to do better! In BBK now, will add one about this trip today, I stand corrected.

M

[Uke Boy]

I am ashamed to confirm that that is true. It does seem to be unfair to ask for advice when I have given so little. I am sorry, I just do not find it compelling or comfortable to write about my activities. You are right to criticize.

M

And the rest of us are so right in not answering your request. This a forum where contributions are essential. If you do not feel comfortable in contributing, you should not ask for help.

[Sirnoir]

You've been to all these countries and you posted only 5 reports?

I am ashamed to confirm that that is true. It does seem to be unfair to ask for advice when I have given so little. I am sorry, I just do not find it compelling or comfortable to write about my activities. You are right to criticize.

M

[Poisson1]

Question to those that have travled the region: Ukraine? Hungury? Russia? Romania? Somewhere else?

I have been to Brazil, Thailand, Cambodia, Budapest and have been with Ukranians in Dominican Republic.

I now want to hit 1 or 2 places in Eastern Europe to visit these beauties in their homeland.

What country (or city) do you think offers the best selection, ease or operation (locating talent) and all around best attitude, willingness and beauty. Beauty and attitude being the most important.

Price is always a consideration. But not necessarily the most important.

Would really appreciate any suggestions on the best way to go!

Thanks,

MG

You've been to all these countries and you posted only 5 reports?