General Info

[Qjump]

Yes it's all doom and gloom........
But look on the bright side...... the girls still look as good... and the cost of Getting into their knickers is for sure comming down!

[LifeSavour]

OK, this economy is TOAST! The UAH is sitting around 700 to $100 usd.

But that is artificially held LOW for the time being. Mark my words, some of my 'students' that are in the know are predicting 1500 in the near term. 2009!

People here all took credit in USD, as the interest was lower. 500 to 1500 uah to the USD, 3 times larger loan payment.

Bye bye flat & car & even washing machine. They are CREDIT crazy here.

[LifeSavour]

I get the gist of what you are saying, but let me see if I understand your first example. You have a rental property. You spoke to a rental agency. They told you that 45 days ago they had 200 people renting apartments through them. Now they have only 80 people renting.

No, it is a business that was renting. About 6 people were in this office, they are part of a large company. I asked why they were moving and she said.

200 employees and now 120 of them were let go!

Most everyone that has a salary went from 100% one day to 70 or 80%, 20 to 30% reduction OVERNIGHT!

[Nolies]

Lifesavour: what do you mean? We don't understand you.

[Moliere]

Man, it is getting bad here. Just under the surface. Like a boiling pot of thick soup (surface seems calm).

Called on a business today about my rental. 200 people 45 days ago. 80 now! ....

Nothing is moving in real estate. No one is even working on 'job sites'.

People that have committed to loans in USD are fucked. There isn't any USD here.

Flats and offices will soon be sitting empty. Another friend, she lives off here rental income from a flat in Kyiv and a 'garage'. About $1,500 a month. As of the 15th dec. Both gone. Businesses that were in there are closed!

It is going down fast.

I get the gist of what you are saying, but let me see if I understand your first example. You have a rental property. You spoke to a rental agency. They told you that 45 days ago they had 200 people renting apartments through them. Now they have only 80 people renting.

[Cruiser D]

Euro, USD or local is fine for pro's.

I've paid with USD's in shops that didn't take CC's but don't expect a good exchange rate.

[LifeSavour]

Man, it is getting bad here. Just under the surface. Like a boiling pot of thick soup (surface seems calm).

Called on a business today about my rental. 200 people 45 days ago. 80 now!

Another contact. 20% gone last Monday.

Nothing is moving in real estate. No one is even working on 'job sites'.

People that have committed to loans in USD are fucked. There isn't any USD here.

Flats and offices will soon be sitting empty. Another friend, she lives off here rental income from a flat in Kyiv and a 'garage'. About $1,500 a month. As of the 15th dec. Both gone. Businesses that were in there are closed!

It is going down fast.

[Stikirob]

Quick question guys.

I'm off to Kiev for the first time next month. A lot of posts mention paying in US dollars. Is this just for comparison purposes or are US dollars accepted / expected?
Thanks

[Qjump]

What many people seem to have lost here is that most deals here are doen in dollars not grevna so $100 will stay $100, not change against the exchange rate. They just always expect the GRVN equivalent. so as of today try 700 grevna!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nolies]

Drakkar,

The richer a woman is, the higher her expectations, her standoffishness, her snobbism and her nose!

The poorer, the more humble, modest, aproachable, nice!

So, make your own conclusions!

[J Boy]

Thank you Alconizer. But what about affordability. Which countries have the lowest costs for rooms, food, bars and ladies?

[AColonizer]

My friend, master monger in Eastern Europe, suggested to me:

1 - Czech girls

2 - Russian/Ukrainian girls

10 - Romanian girls, very bad attitude

I am new having done my of my traving in Asia. Clould someone tell me where the best action for the lowest price is right now in eastern Europe. I like the look but don't really care if she is Russian, Romanian or whatever?

Thanks!

[J Boy]

I am new, having done most of my traving in Asia. Could someone tell me where the best action for the lowest price is right now in eastern Europe. I like the look but don't really care if she is Russian, Romanian or whatever?

Thanks!

[Travel69]

It is very detail wonderful info. Thanks

You can buy on shortest term just in the Railway Station.
Unless some kind of holdidays, then it might be problem.

Emergency solution: In case, sold out, go to the train, and bribe the conductors controlling the tickets at the entry to the carriage. Only a question of $, they sell their own seats to you. In worst case, because the trip is about 3h max, you might be able to stand/sit in the walking area.

So no need to worry.

You can check the connections already in advance:

www.bahn.de
From (Von): Kiev
To (Nach): Vinnica

These time tables are very reliable.

[Reiner Otto]

Does anybody know it is easy to buy a train ticket between Kiev and vinnitsa without reservation in kiev airport after arrival?

You can buy on shortest term just in the Railway Station.
Unless some kind of holdidays, then it might be problem.
Emergency solution: In case, sold out, go to the train, and bribe the conductors controlling the tickets at the entry to the carriage. Only a question of $, they sell their own seats to you. In worst case, because the trip is about 3h max, you might be able to stand/sit in the walking area.
So no need to worry.

You can check the connections already in advance:
www.bahn.de
From (Von): Kiev
To (Nach): Vinnica

These time tables are very reliable.