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**Explorer69** · 08-11-09 18:32

Originally Posted by Another Guy

Also good to know, from some strip clubs you can take a girl home if she agrees, at some others this is not really possible. Make sure the KDN guys knows which is which, as with them I only visited one club. Hooking up with a girl at a strip club is by the way also often matter of "money not being an issue", but for me at least it was the most fun! But this was when I was out on my own, not with KDN.

Good luck!

Which strips clubs provide take out? I also like that way, but I have only experience from Millenium and a club called Mexico that was closed a couple of years ago.

**Jojosun** · 08-11-09 14:51

What I do in each city I travel to, is to find a cab driver with some basic english as a mininmum requirement, for ease of travel past midnight.

Now a have a complete list of such drivers in many corners of the world, their help and knowledge needless to say, was very useful, and helped me a lot by not being ripped off, when leaveing clubs at night. Any one knows such a cab driver in kiev, or some kiev man with a private car, who does some moonlighting at night, who is a bit honest and straightforward, and with some basic english?

Many thanks

**Uke Boy** · 08-11-09 01:33

Originally Posted by Deemul

And money is important for me as I don't want to ruin the punting/mongering scene in Ukraine.

If money is important to you, why would you want to use these guys just to show you around as I read it? If they do not do the actual "arrangement" for the lady to come to you or for you to come to her, and they just take you to RP or to Shooters, those are things you can do for yourself and not pay one extra kopek for what would be a rip-off.

Besides, even if you don't have an entirely satisfactory experience on your own with a lady at a private apartment, it's a lot better to have tried it and not paid what may be exorbitant monies for someone to possibly show you the same place and the same lady!

I suspect if you RTFF and go to the usual places, it will be the same thing you could get as with this outfit but all for free. Your success or failure rate will be exactly the same, with or without them but without them, no extra cash outlay.

Unless you have a particular vice or kink that you can't find here and they can deliver, I suggest you stay away from them and other such operations. An English-speaking cab driver is a cheaper alternative and could be just as productive.

As an afterthought comment, I thought I should add that "service" industries, no matter what kind, just do not exist here and are not understood here as they are in the rest of the world. The only service you will get is being screwed out of your money. It is the only thing the locals really know how to do in any "service" business. Therefore anyone who says they will help you and show you the scene is just after any and all monies you have and will laugh about your stupidity as he sees it after you leave.

Hey, Another, nice post, this is what the forum is all about.

**ClashCity** · 08-10-09 16:47

Hi Deemul,

I would say go for it! I've often thought of providing a similar service! Check it out and post a report!!

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Deemul

Hi guys,

Planning to have another visit to Kiev next month and just wondering if anyone has heard about http://www.kievdreamnights.com ?

My last trip was for business so didn't have much time for mongering other than RP and GIA. So this time I've decided to organise some serious mongering for 3 days in Kiev and thinking of using the service of this mob to organise the whole package.
I've tried to search the forum but couldn't find anything about this website.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Deemul

**Another Guy** · 08-10-09 16:21

Originally Posted by Deemul

Hi guys,

Planning to have another visit to Kiev next month and just wondering if anyone has heard about http://www.kievdreamnights.com ?

My last trip was for business so didn't have much time for mongering other than RP and GIA. So this time I've decided to organise some serious mongering for 3 days in Kiev and thinking of using the service of this mob to organise the whole package.
I've tried to search the forum but couldn't find anything about this website.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Deemul

Hi Deemul,

I made use of Kiev Dream nights a couple years ago and agree that if money is not an issue then by all means go for it. You get some good advice, they takes you around, translate, etc. Only downside as I saw it at the time was that each night that was included on an average lasted only about 3 hours. For me I'd rather see it was longer.

You might as well go by your own.(if not possible to find a local mongerer to team up with for a night). RP, Arena have already been mentioned, but also some easy-to-find strip clubs (Rio for example), various massage places are not a problem at all on your own, and English is normally not a problem there. Private apartments are more difficult without some guidance. But far from impossible. (I was myself able to discover several privates without assistance). Personally I don't like those places that much though. Its also a great deal of hit and miss, and quite often English won't help you there.

Good thing about KDN is they will taylor according to your wishes.

Also good to know, from some strip clubs you can take a girl home if she agrees, at some others this is not really possible. Make sure the KDN guys knows which is which, as with them I only visited one club. Hooking up with a girl at a strip club is by the way also often matter of "money not being an issue", but for me at least it was the most fun! But this was when I was out on my own, not with KDN.

Good luck!

**Deemul** · 08-10-09 07:53

Thanks for your advice Cruiser. The reason I'm thinking of using them is that I have very limited russian speaking ability, as I only know a few phrases, and plus I don't want to worry about arranging everything.

And money is important for me as I don't want to ruin the punting/mongering scene in Ukraine.

Thnks,

Deemul

**Cruiser D** · 08-10-09 02:55

Dee, you want to do some serious monger? If you want to use that brokering service then money obviously isn't an issue to you. Go to RP, go to Arena, go to Decadence. Go to the various apartment/brothels. All the information is in the forum. That's it! Have a good trip.

**Deemul** · 08-09-09 16:40

Hi guys,

Planning to have another visit to Kiev next month and just wondering if anyone has heard about http://www.kievdreamnights.com ?

My last trip was for business so didn't have much time for mongering other than RP and GIA. So this time I've decided to organise some serious mongering for 3 days in Kiev and thinking of using the service of this mob to organise the whole package.
I've tried to search the forum but couldn't find anything about this website.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Deemul

**Diceman** · 08-05-09 01:03

Yeah well make that shes been diced as well.

**Lennox** · 08-04-09 23:23

Originally Posted by Cruiser D

Lennox, try River Palace. The casino shut down, not the disco. Don't you guys RTFF?

Thanks Cruiser LOL. Sorry about that, I was confused, I've not yet made it there and I didn't know there was a disco still in RP. I read posts where disco were mentioned and I thought they meant discos around the city. Thanks, I'm very pleased to hear it's not gone :-)

Hopefully I finally can go this Fall to Ukraine. I haven't been able to do many trips in last year due to economy but I think the reward is worth the time and cost.

**Cruiser D** · 08-03-09 22:40

Wow Bez, you could cut yourself on that girls hip bone.

Lennox, try River Palace. The casino shut down, not the disco. Don't you guys RTFF?

**Lostinkiev** · 08-03-09 08:50

Hi Everyone and especially to those of you who have been helping me with my stupid questions. (I didn't know what sponsorship meant!)

My situation is that I am at the end of a 10 year relationship here in Kiev.

I first came here in 1999. I have lived here since 2002.

But I never have experienced the city as a single man.

So instead of floundering around for months, I thought I would try and benefit from the experience of some of the members here.

I am looking for a forum member, that lives here or will be visiting here, that is willing to help a complete newbie navigate the scene here in Kiev.

It would be great to meet for drinks, and of course, I am buying.

I am an American from Los Angeles, California.

Thanks a lot!

**Lennox** · 08-03-09 04:53

Just wondering from our boots on the ground, where are the girls hanging out at now that the Casino is shut down?

**Bez Bezarra** · 07-23-09 03:33

Whatever....

**Cruiser D** · 07-23-09 02:14

I noticed p4p prices have dropped to were $150-200/night is viable again and when I was there in April/May the exchange rate was 8 to 1, so even better.

I love you Bez, I never banished you. Just your couches.

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