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[Banker24]

Nolies,

As much as you would like me to, I am not trying to impress you or anyone else here. I believe one facet of this forum is to share travel information, which is what I was doing with the city reports. I'm also pretty good at discrediting misinformation and hopeless fools such as yourself.

Your insults are pretty lame and lack credit. Please go back to school and learn how to spell before you come post again. You also incorrectly assumed the 24 in my name represents age. I can say that I've never had to worry about being old, not for another few decades. In Casino Royale fashion, your take on my age only implies that you are worried about your own aging physical and mental capacity compared to younger foreigners and locals. I also assume that by this point, you have recognized reality and no longer dream of striking any measure of great financial success which would aid in your quest for girls. This puts you in a dilemma. You see, eastern european girls are quite traditional when compared with their hot western counterparts. They either want love and stability, or just stability in the form of money. I do not think you will be able to offer them either, or at least above the market premium. You would honestly have better luck in a more westernized country, though you would have to return to reality, where your chances of meeting a young successful lady who likes unsuccessful middle age burnouts are pretty much zero.

As for Ukraine, the country folk may have been poor in the recent past, but that doesn't mean they didn't live a happy, less cluttered life with their families. This is what makes their culture prideful and strong - that they got through those hardships together as a newly independent country. It's just too bad they didn't take the high road in terms of education and politics.

I'm pretty fortunate to be on the fast track and the earnings in finance has never been better. Search up hedge funds, private equity, and investment banking, then you'll know more about me. In less WSJ terms, I am a young professional who has all the means and the style to hit up girls anywhere. I use this forum only as a means to learn about culture, fair market pricing, locations, glean experience, and what not to do. As a side note, there is nothing you can do about Ukraine's inflated market prices, so give it a rest.

Advice - don't alienate yourself from others on this site. Not everyone is sex-starved and by mentioning it only focuses the attention on you and makes you the more probable sex-starved creep.

This is the last I'll direct anything towards you, you're simply a waste of time and space. If I was an asshole, I would say to go behind your brick and mortar and shoot yourself. However, I am quite the nice guy and believe there may just be the slightest hope for you to turn out alright, just none when it comes to dating gorgeous young woman.

Banker24,

Who do you think is an idiot trying to impress us with these statistics and that stupid pseudo?

Who cares if you are a banker at 24? You are still an incompetent, consided, idotic, stupid moron. Yes, I still insist on the fact that Kyev is unreasonably expensive! And I don't care about all the zillionaires living there. They were ALL forming lines outside empty- shelled shops to get toilet paper (that wasnt always available) 15 years ago! They all forgot how they would have licked the shoe soles of foreigners to even be able to see what a dollar note looked like!

And now, *****s that used to give away pussy for a pair of pantyhoses want 300 $ a minute. Landlords that got their stinky appartment for FREE during communist times want 2000$ a month. And a bowl of borsh costs 2 days worth of ukrainian salary.

Mongers, please, boycott this joke of a country. Let them find out how life is without a single foreigner to scam, cheat, ripoff, lie to.

They only raise their prices to these insane levels because they see that there is a demand for their pussies from sex-starved westerners.

Go to Thailand, Cambodia, or Colombia. Where the population doesnt want to get rich at your expense!

[Hecker]

Now, the rankings of Kyiv, Prague, and Berlin may be arguable in today's rampant inflation in the capital cities of the FSU, including Kyiv. However, don't even think about saying that Kyiv is on the same level as Moscow, London, New York, and Tokyo, which have consistently been the most expensive cities in the world to live, work, and play in.

If you have time, you should educate yourself. These stats may impress the next Ukrainian girl you meet that thinks Kyiv is top dollar/pound/euro/yen in the world. Also, please refrain from posting. It'll help prevent making yourself sound like the idiot you obviously are.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/15/pf/m...ensive_cities/
http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
http://www.citymayors.com/economics/...e_cities2.html
http://www.citymayors.com/economics/richest_cities.html
http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html

I didn't go out of my way to look this up. I know several people who work for Mercer and I was emailed this research report because I like to travel and as a complimentary token from a friend. This is just the quick online table listing of cities and not the full report, which you have to buy. My guess is you'd be too cheap to spend your precious coins on educational material anyway.

Who is interested in comparing Kiev to Tokyo or London? Here we refered to the difference between Kiev, Prague and Berlin from monger's perspective. If you get such a research on the subject, inform us as well, but I doubt very much a scientist will undertake such a research.

Of course you cannot find such comparisons out there because the subject ineterests us mongers and not real estate speculators or any other in finance sector.

[Nolies]

Banker24,

Who do you think is an idiot trying to impress us with these statistics and that stupid pseudo?

Who cares if you are a banker at 24? You are still an incompetent, consided, idotic, stupid moron. Yes, I still insist on the fact that Kyev is unreasonably expensive! And I don't care about all the zillionaires living there. They were ALL forming lines outside empty- shelled shops to get toilet paper (that wasnt always available) 15 years ago! They all forgot how they would have licked the shoe soles of foreigners to even be able to see what a dollar note looked like!

And now, *****s that used to give away pussy for a pair of pantyhoses want 300 $ a minute. Landlords that got their stinky appartment for FREE during communist times want 2000$ a month. And a bowl of borsh costs 2 days worth of ukrainian salary.

Mongers, please, boycott this joke of a country. Let them find out how life is without a single foreigner to scam, cheat, ripoff, lie to.

They only raise their prices to these insane levels because they see that there is a demand for their pussies from sex-starved westerners.

Go to Thailand, Cambodia, or Colombia. Where the population doesnt want to get rich at your expense!

[Banker24]

Now, the rankings of Kyiv, Prague, and Berlin may be arguable in today's rampant inflation in the capital cities of the FSU, including Kyiv. However, don't even think about saying that Kyiv is on the same level as Moscow, London, New York, and Tokyo, which have consistently been the most expensive cities in the world to live, work, and play in.

If you have time, you should educate yourself. These stats may impress the next Ukrainian girl you meet that thinks Kyiv is top dollar/pound/euro/yen in the world. Also, please refrain from posting. It'll help prevent making yourself sound like the idiot you obviously are.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/15/pf/m...ensive_cities/
http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
http://www.citymayors.com/economics/...e_cities2.html
http://www.citymayors.com/economics/richest_cities.html
http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html

I didn't go out of my way to look this up. I know several people who work for Mercer and I was emailed this research report because I like to travel and as a complimentary token from a friend. This is just the quick online table listing of cities and not the full report, which you have to buy. My guess is you'd be too cheap to spend your precious coins on educational material anyway.

[Hecker]

Kiev will NOT become like Prague or Berlin? Of course NOT. It already has surpassed them many times in prices! It already has surpassed the champion of most expensive cities: TOKYO.

Here is a third world city who wants to beat Monte Carlo in prices!

And expats who are willing to go there and pay those insane prices are contributing to the madness!

Come on guys, there is pussy everywhere in this lovely planet. Go somewhere reasonable!

Don't let those ukrainian *****s and landlords laugh all the way to the bank!

Yes, it has surpassed these cities and the reason is simple. There are more millionaires living in Kiev than in Prague and Berlin together. The rich form the prices in Ukraine. The point is do you prefer to live 3 days as a millionaire in Kiev or one week as a middle class person in Czech Republic or Germany?

[AColonizer]

Dear timmy21,

Please, activate your PM in this forum because I can't send a private message to you or you try to send your email address to my email box. Thank you

You need to know where to look, I live in a provicial city in far east Ukraine, in some of the smaller communites, one can find an hourly rate of like $15, fair quality.

My advice is to search outside the regional centers, in cities of 50, 000 to 150, 000 inhabitants, search out the saunas, discos, (security guards in discos know all the girls who are p4p) and taxi drivers, or just try and communicate with the younger, local guys. Whatever you do, I really wouldn't wave a 20 spot in front of their face, not a good idea.

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[Nolies]

Kiev will NOT become like Prague or Berlin? Of course NOT. It already has surpassed them many times in prices! It already has surpassed the champion of most expensive cities: TOKYO.

Here is a third world city who wants to beat Monte Carlo in prices!

And expats who are willing to go there and pay those insane prices are contributing to the madness!

Come on guys, there is pussy everywhere in this lovely planet. Go somewhere reasonable!

Don't let those ukrainian *****s and landlords laugh all the way to the bank!

[Cruiser D]

Nolies and Cheap Meat are so over the top they might be trolls or at the very least so on the fringe the should simply be ignored.

Nolies falls into the old fucker classification, so I have no idea why he is talking about old guys coming to the FSU in a derogatory manner.

The best course of action Cheap Meat could take is to start waving a $20 bill in the face of local girls at a McD. Being Asian and doing that will result in a very painful lesson for him at the hands of the local men.

It's not the older sexpats driving up the prices, they are notoriously cheap. It's the influx of foreign professionals (like Brandon88 :P) and well off Ukrainian/Russians. Kiev/Ukraine will not become like Prague or Berlin. The Ukrainian economy lives and dies by the petro market and corruption. Neither can be substained on a long term basis. Unless a visionary stateman some how comes to power in the Ukraine they are in for a very hard bust cycle shortly.

[Hecker]

Right on "cheap meat". You seem to be the only one with some sense in this pussy whipped ukraine forum.

All these other members have lost their sense of perspective because they are extremeley desperate. They are older, and age is your Number 1 enemy in Western europe and the USA. These are youth. Oriented societies where a middle aged man has ZERO chances to get young pussy, unless he is VERY rich or famous.

So, they come to East europe like a man in the desert rushes to the nearest water well!

They are so desperate, young- pussy hungry, that they pay any amount, no matter how ridiculously high it is!

And they ignore all Economic fundamentals like the fact that Ukraine is a third world country with small per capita income. They pay TOP european or american prices and thay feel fortunate and lucky to do so.

Bunch of idiots that make it hard for the rest of us that want to keep East europe a low-cost pussy paradise.

Fuck off and go back to London, Zurich and New York and feel free to empty your bank accounts there!

I think Nolies is very direspectful to other members of forum. Yes many spend much more money than they should to but there are many factors to take into account like the cunning behaviour of ukrainian girls, the cities environment, the general hardness of living in province and the huge difference between rich and poor people with no middle class between them. All these factors make the situation and the prices for somebody who has not been in Ukraine impossible to understand.

If you want to live a high life as aforeigner, you have to spend the amount of money the rich Ukrainians pay (there is a lot of them) because the prices are fixed to them since there is no middle class. No foreigner wants to live like a poor ukrainian when he comes for vacation.

As for the age factor, it is not the only or the most important one. Most people who travel to Ukraine do so in my opinion to simply increase their chances of bedding hot women. There are some chances in the West determined by genes of population, competition, offer and demand and some very different, much higher chances in Ukraine which are determined by the same factors which are much more favourable in the latter.

It is a matter of choice. If somebody wants to spend 2000$ where will he get better results? In London, in Berlin, in Prague or in Kiev? This is always in the mind of monger travelers. They compare the chances and opportunities in each case. The best place to go does not always remain the same. Now maybe Kiev but if the prices continue to go up, it may become Prague, but if from there all the valuable girls flow to Germany, it may become Berlin in some years. So to do an approach simply based on age of mongers is rather simplificating and misleading.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Banker24]

But some of you guys need to get checked out. I did not say the prices in ukraine were fair. I think they are inflated, which is why I would not go around paying so much if at all. You people need to understand that not everyone is pussy whipped just because you are. Maybe you can not understand the rational of people who spend $1000 at a strip club where there is no sex, when they can get sex for a quality escort at less than half that amount in a western country. When you have the dough and free-frequent access to sexual pleasure, it is no longer such a huge priority.

I think cheap meat is nothing short of an idiot because of the way he views women. Anyone who thinks it is socially acceptable to just wave currency in front of a girl in an attempt to get her to go home with him is lacking in social skills. This is probably why he and some of you are always paying for pussy. And don't argue the point that all girls are prostitutes because they get your money one way or another. There's plenty of girls I know and have slept with that fuck after one or two drinks that I buy, when they have plenty of alcohol at their own place. And no I didn't take them out to dinner, buy them gifts, or promise them a visa to heaven, nor do I plan to.

Nolies, don't complain because you don't have the financial means. Be a man and go earn some respect for yourself. I may be young and rich, but I know plenty of older and less well-off guys, especially in the US and UK, who get just as much if not more action.

And lastly, don't argue with me about the economics of sex and prostitution. It's not the old foreigners that drive up the prices in ukraine. Perhaps in RP, but that is just but a small speck of sand in your desert. It's the fact that there are billionaires and plenty of millionaries in ukraine that have harems of woman at their call due to their bankroll and spending habits. They have no need to be on forums like this to learn things. Its their country, their culture, and their game. You/we/all of us are just dabbling in it.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Timmy21]

You need to know where to look, I live in a provicial city in far east Ukraine, in some of the smaller communites, one can find an hourly rate of like $15, fair quality.

My advice is to search outside the regional centers, in cities of 50, 000 to 150, 000 inhabitants, search out the saunas, discos, (security guards in discos know all the girls who are p4p) and taxi drivers, or just try and communicate with the younger, local guys. Whatever you do, I really wouldn't wave a 20 spot in front of their face, not a good idea.

Does Ukraine have cheap pussy? Cuz on the other reports some guys said that an hour or two of sex cost $100-$200! No way that women in a third world dump like Ukraine can command that much. You can get them cheaper in Germany! FYI, Ukraine has a nominal GDP per capita of only $2, 000 USD. If sex cost that much in Ukraine, then how would average Ukrainian guys afford it? ! Use your brain. These sound like rip-off tourist prices. I can get pussy for less than that with good looking girls in the USA. No way sex costs that much in Ukraine. What if I went to a McDonalds or a hotel and waved $20 in front of a girl's face? I think if I do it enough I could get a girl to take it. Maybe 1 time out of 5 tries? I'm looking for some options here. I want to screw a European girl cuz I've never done it in my life. Only Asian girls.

Cheap meat

[Nolies]

Right on "cheap meat". You seem to be the only one with some sense in this pussy whipped ukraine forum.

All these other members have lost their sense of perspective because they are extremeley desperate. They are older, and age is your Number 1 enemy in Western europe and the USA. These are youth.oriented societies where a middle aged man has ZERO chances to get young pussy, unless he is VERY rich or famous.

So, they come to East europe like a man in the desert rushes to the nearest water well!

They are so desperate, young- pussy hungry, that they pay any amount, no matter how ridiculously high it is!

And they ignore all Economic fundamentals like the fact that Ukraine is a third world country with small per capita income. They pay TOP european or american prices and thay feel fortunate and lucky to do so.

Bunch of idiots that make it hard for the rest of us that want to keep East europe a low-cost pussy paradise.

Fuck off and go back to London, Zurich and New York and feel free to empty your bank accounts there!

[Bez Bezarra]

I want to get pussy for low cost in Ukraine.

if I went to McDonalds and wave $20 in girl's face I could get a girl to take it.

I want a Euro girl cuz I've done Only Asian girls.

You should go wave $20 in EVERY girl's face. This is the BEST plan and you are just like a genious to think this great idea. Ukraine is the best country for this money waving. You will have all the most beautiful girls making a que to have sex with you, they will be fighting each other over your $20, so be careful. Just tell them to wait patient while you fuck the best ones first.

Also, you should tell them that its really for 2 girls to split the $20, for each one to get $10 if they do a lesbi-show for you. They will really be impressed with this offer, and they will all beg to be your first euro sex experience.

[Banker24]

You are a cheap-azz mental mothafcuker. It's people like you who give Asians a bad reputation. Just because a woman fcuks you for money doesn't mean you need to degrade them further. Especially coming from someone who thinks $100-$200 is a lot of money for sex. Most people in First World countries earn that in a day, some in just a few hours, if not minutes. Go backpack yourself somewhere else, there's no need for CIA World book statistics here. Oh and if you've read this far already, the answer to your question is no.

Does Ukraine have cheap pussy? Cuz on the other reports some guys said that an hour or two of sex cost $100-$200! No way that women in a third world dump like Ukraine can command that much. You can get them cheaper in Germany! FYI, Ukraine has a nominal GDP per capita of only $2, 000 USD. If sex cost that much in Ukraine, then how would average Ukrainian guys afford it? ! Use your brain. These sound like rip-off tourist prices. I can get pussy for less than that with good looking girls in the USA. No way sex costs that much in Ukraine. What if I went to a McDonalds or a hotel and waved $20 in front of a girl's face? I think if I do it enough I could get a girl to take it. Maybe 1 time out of 5 tries? I'm looking for some options here. I want to screw a European girl cuz I've never done it in my life. Only Asian girls.

Cheap meat

[Doctor_Skank]

You just can't say wh0re, 5lut, and b1tch.

What do you mean I can't say *****, **** and *****?

***** **** and *****!!!!