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11-17-07 21:35 #551
Posts: 101Originally Posted by wallyally
http://visioneve.org/accomodation/index.html
my buddy is over there now. he rented an apartment from them, they said it was rennovated, had satellite tv, and had broadband internet included. when he arrived, he said it was not rennovated, had no satellite tv or broadband, and had no hot water (only lukewarm). he complained, the manager katya said that he could go find another apartment and she would refund him the balance of the money he paid ($900). he found another apartment and moved to it, but then the manager told him she would not give him any refund. he was out $900. when he complained more, she said that she would have the maid write and sign a statement that he tried to fuck her, she said she would write one as well, she would give them to the police, and he would be arrested at the airport when he was leaving. of course this is complete bullshit.
just stay away from this apartment agency, they are crooks.
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greetings everyone,
on 01-26-08 i received the following email from "tony@ukraineadventures.com" regarding the above report.
Originally Posted by tony@ukraineadventures.com
jacksonLast edited by Admin; 01-28-08 at 22:20.
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11-17-07 20:54 #550
Posts: 139How To Conduct Yourself In The Former Ussr
1) Never, ever get serious about a woman from the former USSR.
2) Every single word coming out of her mouth is an absolute lie.
3) Show any sign of weakness and you will be eaten alive.Thay smell weakness and view it as you being less than a man should be.Do not be too nice.Do not put up with any crap,bullshit,tricks, games,manipulation, ors scamming whatsoever.If you lose any girl because of it, you are fortunate!!
4) Keep a rotating list of girls,updating constantly.That way, you have a list, just as she does.
5) Try not to be the sponsor, provider, meal ticket of the day that she later dumps.
6) Do not spend even $1 on the first date, as chances are good you will ne
ver see her again
WHAT THEY ARE THINKING:
1) Foreign men are wallets with legs
2) Heart for one, pussy for everyone
3) Take advantage of every single opportunity to the fullest extent possible
4) We do not need foreigners.they are more trouble than they are worth.They hve nothing to offer that our ukrainian men cannot offer.
5) However, you can use foreigners to either practice english, have a short and new experience, or as a sponsor/meal ticket/provider for a day or two.
And, take as many of your friends as possible along for the ride.
6) Foreigners are all here to have sex with you or try to meet you and , within a few days, take you to some strange foreign country to be a sex slave.
7) Encounters with foreigners are strange and very infrequent occurences, but dont worry.If you ignore them , they will go away
Guys: golden days are over. First they liked us, then they ignored us. Now they hate us.
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10-30-07 17:39 #549
Posts: 51I have already shared my views on this subject and appreciate everyone elses views as well, but you are correct sleuth, this isn't the forum to discuss this, because the argument will be endless, because everyones experience will be different. I am sorry you were treated as a leper in Ukraine mumba, but maybe you shouldn't come on the ISG to talk about racism in Kiev, this is a sex site and your three and only posts where on something completely off topic, makes me wonder what your other screen name might be .
And you are correct SS, what is important is, " will the girls here still fuck a Jew or Arab, and the facts are there, " American in Ukraine ", a young arab student in Ukraine is getting boatloads of pussy, he has many friends here, speaks the language and seems to be still alive. So it isn't exactly 1930's Germany, but maybe for some people, they feel something different, but just understand, everyones experience is different.
But yes, what matters most here is money, and with it you can get laid, even you mumba.
Regards,
EZ
Originally Posted by Street Sleuth
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10-30-07 16:47 #548
Posts: 168Originally Posted by Mumba Yumba
I'd have oodles more to say on the subject - I just don't think this is the place to do it. If we start, there will be no end in sight (until Jackson comes and deletes our posts....).
On the mongering side: When it comes to the pros, I suspect money trumps ethnicity, despite what the working girls' views may otherwise be....
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10-30-07 01:04 #547
Posts: 3Evil Z is not a Jew, a Black or a foreigner in Ukraine. So how would he know what is happening there and what it is like to be a non-white/non European foreigner there on a daily basis? What things people say to you, dirty looks, and attacks? Of course he is going to say that it is minimal. It is minimal to HIM because it is not happening to HIM.
It does not make it any better for people who are now dead and buried. Let him go to the cemetery and explain to dead Arabs, Asians, Blacks and Jews that the racism is minimal. Let him explain it to their families.
Let him get on any large Ukrainian forum online. It is replete with Jew boy this and Jew boy that, it is like the year is 1933 in Germany.
And Crimean Tatars are still looked down upon by many people ( not their pretty young ladies though). And the Greek ones are not so dark after all. Try being an Arab there.
http://blog.kievukraine.info/2007/06...robe-into.html
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10-29-07 19:53 #546
Posts: 168Racism,
Not to belabor the issue - just trying to post pertinent information.
Recently, a couple pretty nasty racially motivated attacks occured in Kiev - one involving 4 teenagers who attacked an Asian foreigner (I think Korean, but don't remember for certain). Report was the teenagers didn't know the foreigner, and had no contact/argument with them. Anyway, Asian was followed, then slashed to death by teens with broken bottles. So badly mangled, they couldn't be identified by close friends.
Sad to read this, but it happened.
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10-29-07 08:59 #545
Posts: 500Originally Posted by Acolonizer
I tried quite a few girls in Nikolaev (I am working there in the moment), but 99% are more or less scammers. Because I speak a little bit Russian, I could also contact this type. Only small success in real contact with girls >25. But they are looking into serious relations only.
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10-29-07 03:32 #544
Posts: 3Originally Posted by Evilz632
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10-29-07 03:21 #543
Posts: 3Originally Posted by Evilz632
Problems begin when people of undesirable ethnicities try and penetrate the soceity- renting apartments, trying to make friends, marry girls, get jobs and move up in soceity. This is when they hit a glass ceiling.
It again depends on where in Ukraine you are- Lviv is very racist and anti- Polish, Jewish and Russian. The Carpathian region is more open and so is the South.
The "I was there and nothing bad happened to me" is not a valid argument. I was in South Africa and nothing happened to me, either. It doesnot mean that it does not have the highest crime rate on earth. You need to live there, speak the language, try and do things, then you will see what I mean.
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10-28-07 15:39 #542
Posts: 1178i thank you for this forum.
i have a lot of kiev girls' profiles, above all non-prostitutes, and i hope to blowjob a lot at least with one of those. .
i was surprised about the second time i visited the river palace, i saw a "9" beauty who had gone away alone, incredible! (i give a "10" only for girls taller than 1, 75 m)
what about patipa, i saw some interesting girls but i was afraid to look like silly because i don't speak russian.
what are the magic words to start a speech in ukrainian way with normal girls? and with p2p girls?
a strange thing about www.flirt.com. ua: i have some profiles of beautiful girls and these profiles have some pictures of these girls together their ugly female friends. i think beautiful girls usually don't need to find boys for their games and so i wonder what is the reason these beautiful girls (and not their ugly female friends) put their profiles in flirt?
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10-24-07 11:12 #541
Posts: 168Originally Posted by Cruiser D
Daily apartment rentals are abundant, although seemingly heavily booked up, in Kiev. They are a much better deal than hotels, and for around $100/ight you can have a very clean, central apartment. But I agree with CD on this - I don't know of any sure-fire agency either, and the 'deposit in advance', although it may seem like a scam, usually isn't.
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10-24-07 07:28 #540
Posts: 246Originally Posted by Uke Boy
Forget about it, quickly. Since I am sick of the ***t
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10-23-07 23:30 #539
Posts: 214Originally Posted by Cruiser D
I personally am just happy to know that if someone asks about it there are a lot of members who jump in to say how bad an idea that is. It is nice to see responsible mongering :-)
PITLast edited by PassinThrough; 10-24-07 at 16:36. Reason: spelling
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10-23-07 23:13 #538
Posts: 1381STD's and apartments...
First off, don't offer advice on STD's unless you are 101% sure. You can get HIV, Herp, Hep, HPV and a whole lot of interesting other things that start with an 'H' via mouth to mouth contact is any of it 100%? No. Is there a chance, yes. I'm not going to get into it. But if you want real information - not well, gee, I kinda remember hearing from a guy who said he was a doctor - or I remember from 8th Grade health ed - go to CDC.gov, the US Center for Disease and Control. Unless you are 101% sure stop spreading misinformation. It my comfort you and the rest of us involved in high risk sex but it really isn't helping anyone.
Apartment Agencies in Kiev are a huge case of YMMV. Most ask for a deposit of one night so that way if you don't show they aren't out the rent - seems fair to me and I never heard of anyone getting screwed over on this. There is no Silver Bullet agency in Kiev. No one is renting reasonably priced modern clean apartments in Kiev - even seasoned veterans (ie. ME) have a hard time finding something reasonable.
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10-23-07 21:18 #537
Posts: 673Apartments?
Guys,
Get real now. This is Kiev, not New York, not London. And even there, and most other places, if they do not know you and you have not been a client, short term apartment rental agencies will more than likely ask for a deposit. That is nothing unusual. Unfortunately, here they do tend to be more predatory but that goes with the territory.
However, if you want modern, clean, spotless, neat, light, spotless and the best bathrooms, then I do suggest you stay at the Radisson, the Hyatt or one of the other top notch hotels.
If you want to pay for an apartment, then you will have to compromise on some or many issues while you are here.
This is Ukraine and not Kansas, Dorothy.
It sucks and so do many of the ladies you want to see. Live with it. That is the reason we are here.