General Info

[Riina]

I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.

Many are taking a break. Hookers have family to worry about too.

[Guntherus]

I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.

Some of them are now in Turkey and they are active. So, I think that if you visit a Turkey brothel, you will find many Ukrainian escorts there.

Some of them are in Poland, but it looks like it does not work so well to be an escort in Poland.

Strangely enough, I don't know any Ukrainian pros who moved to Germany or Austria.

Poland (not only in Warsaw), Spain (Murcia is popular), Montenegro. Is what my contacts tell me. And of course Dubai and Antalaya.

[Henri Dufresne]

I am in touch with several escorts from Ukraine.

Some of them are now in Turkey and they are active. So, I think that if you visit a Turkey brothel, you will find many Ukrainian escorts there.

Some of them are in Poland, but it looks like it does not work so well to be an escort in Poland.

Strangely enough, I don't know any Ukrainian pros who moved to Germany or Austria.

[Jojosun]

Yeah guys

The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men .

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/ukrainia...rking-23650449

I wonder what made this UA Lady go all the way to Tipperary, pre arranged meets!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPLS5nNFWTU

[CuddlyForest]

I had been wanting to visit Ukraine for a long time before this. Kind of a real let down, it won't be the same for a long time.

[Neurosynth]

Yeah guys you make some valid points there, and I don't want to get into arguments. I rarely ever argue with anyone on ISG.

BUT….

Wanking, if there is anyone on this board who can navigate the inevitably ambiguous moral waters of commercial sex, I'm sure it's you.

And absolutely, one can imagine arrangements with Ukrainian women that are non-exploitive.

But what I was observing was a sort of fascination with the mass effect, and little concern towards winnowing out desperate refugees. It sounded more like anticipating the opportunity to pounce.

[VinDici]

As the Ukrainian ladies integrate into our societies, some may be keen to meet local men for Romantic or Paid dates. Many ladies in Ukraine were on the game before the war and will continue to ply that trade in their new countries. So why not support them if opportunities arise.

The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men anyway, and if I come across similar Ukraine ladies in my area I won't hesitate to meet them.

What a charitable fella, real heart of gold right there.

[Wanking]

Salivating over Ukrainian refugees is way over the line.

Yeah guys you make some valid points there, and I don't want to get into arguments. I rarely ever argue with anyone on ISG.

BUT.

As the Ukrainian ladies integrate into our societies, some may be keen to meet local men for Romantic or Paid dates. Many ladies in Ukraine were on the game before the war and will continue to ply that trade in their new countries. So why not support them if opportunities arise.

The Ukraine lady in the article below didn't waste too much time in getting to know local men anyway, and if I come across similar Ukraine ladies in my area I won't hesitate to meet them.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/ukrainia...rking-23650449

[VinDici]

There is a genocide going on. It's likely to get much much worse for Ukrainians soon. Tens of thousands more dead.

There is always some degree of benefiting from the misfortune of others in this game. But there's also a line to not be crossed.

Salivating over Ukrainian refugees is way over the line.

Fully agree with this. I have never thought it morally wrong to pay money for sex, when it is with mutual consent. However taking advantage of refugees at their lowest point isn't something I want promoted here.

[Neurosynth]

There is a genocide going on. It's likely to get much much worse for Ukrainians soon. Tens of thousands more dead.

There is always some degree of benefiting from the misfortune of others in this game. But there's also a line to not be crossed.

Salivating over Ukrainian refugees is way over the line.

[Wanking]

Yeah I been thinking the same. I think some may use Seeking arrangement, free for women, 100 plus per month for us guys.

It may be possible to find some locally in your area on Social media.

Another possibility is offering accommodation, no guarantee of sex of course and might end up with alot more problems than its worth.

I had planned to visit Kiev for sex and now many of those women are in my country. Still early days, the women are only just arriving and getting settled in..time to keep plotting 😉

[Gentleman Travel]

Given that many Ukrainian women have left Ukraine with many more to come, how do you think is the best way to get in contact with them once they settle elsewhere (including Canada, my country)?

I used to use Mamba to meet FSU women living in USA and Canada, but it seems kind of dead now. And I used Romance in Russia to meet girls in Ukraine. But both these are Russian sites.

What dating apps do you think Ukrainian women will use now? And I am looking for something that specifically allows me to search for Ukrainian girls. If they are on Tinder that doesn't help much, because most women will be Canadian locals.

Any thoughts?

[Henri Dufresne]

The war has started.

I receive messages from Ukrainian women now, saying: "please help me". Before the war the same women didn't write me. Now, they want to take advantage of my money. In this war, since Ukrainian men are forced to stay in Ukraine, I would only help men, not women. Women can stay in the background, while men fight on the frontline.

Ukrainian gold diggers behave just like before:

A gold digger told me that she was upset because all breadwinners (men) were on the frontline, and now, no men work to buy the bread (this is what a woman from Donetsk told me few days ago). Both in the Luhansk and Donetsk republics, men are enrolled by force; not women. In Ukraine, men must stay in Ukraine and only women and children are authorized to leave Ukraine.

Nothing has changed these women want to be financially supported by men. Men are more likely to die than women during wartime. So, when a Ukrainian woman wants money from me, I tell that it is only possible if she does something in return for me. The only useful thing they can bring is sex.

Still during wartime, the gold diggers keep on going their game by asking me if I am single to know if they could marry me.

Whether Ukraine becomes part of Russia in the future makes no difference. The mindset of local women will remain. If you believe in their narrative, they will steel you a lot of money.

So, their gold digger mindset does not change at all even when their country is under attack. Several women asked me for money since last Thursday. I had sex with them in exchange for money. This sounds unrespectful but there is a context. In the past, these women never saved money. They always spent all their money. They had no savings. They live like children who expect a parent to feed them. They want to find a man aka a cash cow who will work on their behalf so that they will not need to work.

[Henri Dufresne]

Don't be the cuck, be the bull.

Numerous Ukrainian women want to turn you into a sugar daddy. They want your money and you will get nothing in return. This situation is quite prevalent online. For instance, on camgirl website, Ukrainian women look for a sugar daddy. I discovered something quite funny. Many Ukrainian camgirls are also escort girls. I think most of them are. For sure, it is difficult to quantify. Usually, you can see it online when a camgirl receives messages on her smartphone in the middle of the night. Normally noone would text you at 1 am in the morning. She receives messages from her customers.

So, she will pretend to be a "normal" woman when she talks to a customer online. They usually pretend to be students or office workers. Then, you can see that these camgirls are online the whole night. They can't go to work in the morning if they were up all night. It is not possible. So, the online customer is the cuck because she will act as if she was difficult to get and that you have to court her prior to dating her. She will pretend that you must invite her to the restaurant. Meanwhile, other guys are texting her to ask her when she will be available (the bulls). The same girl will give her pussy without complaints and long discussion to the first customer who is texting her.

So, if you visit camgirl websites, these women pretend to be difficult to get but in reality they say yes to everyone who ask for sex.

[Henri Dufresne]

I think that there are more and more scams in Kiev. Let me explain, a woman may make ask you to pay more than twice what a local would pay for sex. For example, if a woman asks a local to $80 for one hour, she will ask an American man to pay $200 for the same service. If you want to know how much an escort should cost go to.

http://kiev.ukrgo.com/view_subsectio...subsection=146 and visit this link from chrome to translate it. We all know that many pictures fake but the prices aren't fake, that's ukrgo is a reliable source of information.

Know the price before meeting someone.

The average salary is still 500 dollars in Kiev today. If a CEO of a company earns three times this salary, it is still really low compared to our standards in the west. Don't let you be influenced by these young women who pretend that you have to pay a lot of money for sex. They are manipulative. Local men don't pay a lot of money to have sex with Ukrainian women.

Additionally, I found that there are greedier women in the Ukrainian female population now than before. For them, these women never talked about the COVID19. They pretend this had no effects on their business. They lie. (There are many liars in Ukraine) because many escort girls in Ukraine used to find their customers in Nightclubs back in 2019, then the nightclubs closed. From what I know, because of the covid19 pandemic they had less customers than before.

Some girls used to travel to west Europe but many flights were cancelled during some times. There were less work everywhere in West Europe anywhere. Anyways, as I said, there were less customers in general.

That's why I want to warn you. Many women claim that they work as usual. They even asked more money than in 2019. So my explanation is the following: Since these women don't work, they desperately need money. So, they are ready to lie, to manipulate even more to get there.

I never heard so much lies in Ukraine from escort girls. I have never heard so many women saying that they are students that they have a job. In reality, these women are escorts because the economy of Ukraine is maybe the worst in Ukraine but they will never tell you. Look at the figures on the worldbank website. You will see that Ukraine is poorer than Bulgaria, Romania, Russia. Local Ukrainian women need you but you don't need them. Don't forget that you are the prize, not the other way around.

Some guys thought that women in villages around Kiev were more modest. It is not true anymore. Since these women have access to the internet, they think they are worth more than in reality. Don't believe the many lies of Ukrainian escort girls.

Let me give you an example, once an escort girl told me she could find 2 sugar daddies in Kiev who would pay $500 to her on a monthly basis. I asked two other escort girls about this. They told me it was complete BS. There aren't sugar daddy in Kiev in the middle of the Covid19 pandemic. The covid19 discourages men to fool around as much as before. I know that the greedy escort lied to me because she said she used to meet her customers in nightclubs and nightclubs were closed at that time because of COVID19.