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[AColonizer]

According to your experiences, at the end, how much is one hour oral-vaginal-anal (better if swallow oral)?

[Jojosun]

[QUOTE=Uke Boy]

Still doing a lot of reseach on the kiev scene.../QUOTE]Read the newly posted report from Borat in the Kiev thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=5379

and do exactly as he writes.

Do really RTFF. It's all here.

Do you also want us all to change your nappy?

Don't be so huffy , posted before borat's great reports appeared ,otherwise i wouldn't have asked .

I have my own baby sitter mate.

[Brandon88]

Any plans on making it back to Kyiv, Brandon? I had a great time in April/May.

Sadly, my previous employer kicked me to the curb, and my current job is 0% travel. If I go, it would have to be self-financed, unless of course a wealthy ISG benefactor lends a hand.

[Cruiser D]

Rio used to be $200, then it went to $300 before the crisis. I have no idea what the pricing is currently. I haven't been there since the winter of 2008.

[Uke Boy]

[QUOTE=Jojosun]Still doing a lot of reseach on the kiev scene.../QUOTE]

Read the newly posted report from Borat in the Kiev thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=5379

and do exactly as he writes.

Do really RTFF. It's all here.

Do you also want us all to change your nappy?

[Jojosun]

Brandon, correct.

When the exchange rate was at 5 your $200 was spot on. When it went to 8, prices went for almost everything went up as well, including the strip bar take out service. Those prices have not come down since the clubs now need this additional money with the loss of gambling income.

The indie pros and salons also for a short time raised their prices but soon dropped them when the locals voted against the increase by voting with their closed wallets. It is these prices that have dropped to what are now near-acceptable levels, namely lots of $50/hour ladies and not the ridiculous $100 norm that existed not too long ago.

Still doing a lot of reseach on the kiev scene and discover something new, what do you men here by salons? Are they sauna clubs places or brothels?

Can you recommend any such salons in the centre of kiev, as I rather not travel to indie private apartments.

And can you actually get st for $50 in these salons?

Many thanks

[Uke Boy]

I thought the takeout was closer to $200, not $300, but I could be wrong. This was also in the days of 4-5 to 1 exchange rates with the us dollar.

Brandon, correct.

When the exchange rate was at 5 your $200 was spot on. When it went to 8, prices went for almost everything went up as well, including the strip bar take out service. Those prices have not come down since the clubs now need this additional money with the loss of gambling income.

The indie pros and salons also for a short time raised their prices but soon dropped them when the locals voted against the increase by voting with their closed wallets. It is these prices that have dropped to what are now near-acceptable levels, namely lots of $50/hour ladies and not the ridiculous $100 norm that existed not too long ago.

[Cruiser D]

Any plans on making it back to Kyiv, Brandon? I had a great time in April/May.

[Explorer69]

I've never not had a fantastic time with takeout from Rio, which I cannot say about RP. Excellent drink service, although I never was able to land one of the hot little waitresses. Give the doorman 20 grivnas or so and the 'reserved' booths open right up. Then you can assess the girls as they rotate through each song before choosing one. Although they can decide if they want to go home with you, being polite and smiling seems to work wonders. I thought the takeout was closer to $200, not $300, but I could be wrong. This was also in the days of 4-5 to 1 exchange rates with the us dollar.

Thanks a lot for all this information guys, I will try out Rio next time.

I am right now for one week in Odessa and have a fantastic time. Contrary to what most others say and experience, I always had a very good time in Odessa. I will report later.

[Another Guy]

Which strips clubs provide take out? I also like that way, but I have only experience from Millenium and a club called Mexico that was closed a couple of years ago.

I only have experience from Millenium and Rio as far as take-outs are possible. At the various Rhino clubs, I think take-outs are not really possible. At Star Rhino for example girls ask a lot for private dancing but if you ask for take-out she just walks away. Others may have different experience.? On the upside of Star Rhino is that they stripped fully nude and there were really LOTS of hot eye candy. I was also at the Red Lion on Kreschatic. Lots of hot ladies and table dancing but I doubt take-outs, even though I never asked.

At Rio, the girls were hot student types. (Uke Boy already gave you the address. Hope we speak about the same place, the one I mean was not far from the university) The girl at Rio who decided to go home with me for $300 said to me that they really were not supposed to go out with clients. So its not really correct to say that the "club allows" take-outs, however it is possible. Back then, Rio was a casino with a strip bar (3 poles simultaneously) and also go-go dancers upstairs. I don't know how it is now, with casinos being outlawed in Ukraine. Anyone who can write an update on that club would be much appreciated.

Millenium club at the Dnipro Hotel on Europeisky ploschad. Well, that's a story of its own. Maybe just "WOW" would summarize it all! I don't know how you see it, but I didn't see one single girl I would characterize below 9, and their dancing was just mind-blowing (even though they only stripped topless). Take-outs were abundant, and the number of girls dancing gradually reduced. I spent about 3 1/2 hours there, from about 9.30 pm, and finally denied a take-out at $600 for 2 hrs or $800 for rest of night. As I walked out to the European square outside, I ran into several waiting taxis, whom I kindly asked for a place for "dyevushky" (how horny can you get after 3 hrs at Millenium? ). They pointed back at the Millenium, but I just shook my head and said "dorogaya". They quickly agreed it was indeed expensive, and after some attempts to communicate, we concluded that I need English-speaking assistance (they spoke hardly English and my Russian is limited). So they asked a young lady to step out of the back of one of the taxis. First I thought: good here's somebody who can translate for me. But then I got the idea: luckily she did not ONLY speak acceptable English. It turned out she was happily available for the rest of the night at $300. I did not negotiate. (Why not: late at night, couple of beers, just happy to hit lucky, etc).

She said her name was Oksana and I would not mind to meet her again. She was in her early 20ies and originally from Moscow but lived in Kiev for about 5 years. I sometimes think about her and wonder how she is. She was very curious and loud in a happy kind of way. But when we walked from the taxi to my apartment, she kind of looked worried for a sec and asked: there are not any other guys at the apartment? I'm thinking life as a prostitute is not always so nice. That's basically why I like the most to go with girls from strip clubs, semi-pros and student girls who do it on the side.

To get back to your question, I can in addition say that I have "only" been to Kiev three times, so I presume several forum members have much more knowledge than me on Kiev providers, and possibly also on which clubs allow take-outs and which do not. One thing I did was that I went to a department store and bought a street map in English. It also had description of tourist attractions. One section covered erotic clubs, strip clubs etc. That's how I found several of the places. But some of them, like Rio for example, were very conspicuously advertised by neon signs (and posters of half-nude women) on the street. You can't miss them just walking up and down the main streets in Kiev center area.

In my experience many of the strip clubs were based on casinos. And once again, since casinos are now outlawed in Ukraine, it would be interesting to hear current details on the various clubs. (Although I've understood from the forum that River Palace is basically "business as usual", except the casino).

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[Another Guy]

Hey, Another, nice post, this is what the forum is all about.

OK. Just to let you know, I don't have any hard feelings about our exchange on the other thread, and I sincerely hope nobody else have them either... We may have our differences, but we are here on this forum, so I gather we must have something in common.

[Brandon88]

I've never not had a fantastic time with takeout from Rio, which I cannot say about RP. Excellent drink service, although I never was able to land one of the hot little waitresses. Give the doorman 20 grivnas or so and the 'reserved' booths open right up. Then you can assess the girls as they rotate through each song before choosing one. Although they can decide if they want to go home with you, being polite and smiling seems to work wonders.
I thought the takeout was closer to $200, not $300, but I could be wrong. This was also in the days of 4-5 to 1 exchange rates with the us dollar.

[Explorer69]

Try Rio Strip Club, Bogdan Khmelnytskoho 30/10, it does allow take out but it is not cheap, from $300 for about 1.5 hours and up depending on your negotiating skills.

The up side is the very high quality attractiveness of many of the ladies.

Thanks a lot, even if it is expensive I sometimes enjoy this. You can have a good look at girls and talk to them, get a feeling how she is. Do you know the price for all night?

[Deemul]

Thanks heaps guys for all the tips and advices. Unfortunately, my trip has been postponed till November but I will definitely report back here.

Anyway, sent an e-mail to KievDreamNights through their website a few days ago and still get no replies so far; that's bad customer service so they wouldn't get any businesses from me.

Cheers,

Deemul

[Uke Boy]

Try Rio Strip Club, Bogdan Khmelnytskoho 30/10, it does allow take out but it is not cheap, from $300 for about 1.5 hours and up depending on your negotiating skills.

The up side is the very high quality attractiveness of many of the ladies.