Kyiv

[Suka Shalava]

Your chance of getting a sweet university student is 100 %, if you happen to be there for a significant length of time.

If not, they can be had quite cheaply. They need money as much as anyone else.

Furthermore, given that they constantly surrounded by so many other beautiful girls, they do not realize their true value.

Obviously, with a significant length of time the chance of success always increases, because it allows for more chances to first fail and then learn HOW to succeed. But the only 100% guarantees are reserved for Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt!

Understand that in any group of ladies at these places we are discussing, you must expect that the 8's, 9's, and 10's already have drawn the attention of local guys, so you should also expect that local guys are their preference, as that is what is expected by their peers.

Having an affair with a foreigner for financial support is a big risk of their reputation being ruined, if anyone found out. You may only be there for a few weeks and then you're gone, but they aren't going anywhere. They have no place to go other than to face their friends after you've left.

If an affair can be kept discreet enough for a lady to maintain her reputation, then you have your chance.

You are correct that there are ladies who truly underestimate their loveliness, as its normal for most local guys to treat them as just plain janes.

[Traveller22]

Yes, universities in the entire FSU are full of incredibly beautiful young women. I respectfully disagree with one point. Your chances of getting together with one of these sweet university students is 100 %. If you refuse to pay, many are looking for a good man, so you can play that, if you happen to be there for a significant length of time. If not, they can be had quite cheaply. They need money as much as anyone else. Furthermore, given that they constantly surrounded by so many other beautiful girls, they do not realize their true value.

"if not, they can be had quite cheaply".

Did you manage to sponsor some of them or is it just a supposition? From my experience, FSU students became proud and demanding those days.

[Stevie69]

Yes, universities in the entire FSU are full of incredibly beautiful young women. I respectfully disagree with one point. Your chances of getting together with one of these sweet university students is 100 %. If you refuse to pay, many are looking for a good man, so you can play that, if you happen to be there for a significant length of time. If not, they can be had quite cheaply. They need money as much as anyone else. Furthermore, given that they constantly surrounded by so many other beautiful girls, they do not realize their true value.

All politics aside, your video scene is a just a snapshot of what plays out for any typical day in the normal life at EVERY university and institute from Vladivostok to Lviv, Murmansk to Sevastopol, and every other FSU city in between.

You would already know that, and not be laughing your ass off about it, if you had already been lucky enough to have taught or have been invited many times by professors there to speak to classes at different institutions. This was my good fortune, for several years, from ten to fifteen years ago in eastern Ukraine.

I do not deny, that in the beginning, I was also overwhelmed by the magnitude of the attractiveness of these ladies. You need to check yourself though, as that awe rather quickly fades when you face the reality that your chances are basically zero to ever hook up with 98% of them, unless you happen to be Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt. For me, friendships were easy, but I made the personal choice not to take advantage of that and lower myself down to baseless urges of filthy mongering. For me, meeting a lady that was a student of my professor friend, or of the teachers I knew that invited in to their classes, was more about maintaining a level of respect and possible long term serious relationships that could lead to getting married. In other words, this can be a place where you find a person of quality. I did pursue some of the ladies I met this way, but always as a gentleman, out of great respect for the teachers. You don't shit where you eat, as they say..

[CastOnThis]

Went to several strip clubs last night. Found a gem known as Flirt House, had the most attractive female ratio of all strip clubs so far visited. But, I wasn't feeling anything to do last night so I just drank the money away at Tao. Which was a good night because they had more patrons last night, so it didn't feel like the girls had to be only visiting me.

[Esatikkanen]

Most Kiev girls on Mamba who offer P4 P post fake photos, even if they write that the photos are real. Here are some girls with real (non fake) photos.

Iriss http://www.mamba.ru/mb1265334020?hit=10&sp=5 (she speaks English a little; A-level).

Alena http://www.mamba.ru/mb1332817077?hit=10&sp=7 (she speaks English; A-level; she has at least half a dozen profiles on Mamba with different names / Sabrina / Albina etc.).

Natali http://www.mamba.ru/mb1289394483?hit=10&sp=15.

Janna http://www.mamba.ru/jane873?hit=10&sp=107 (she speaks English).

On Ukrgo 99% of the photos are fake.

I ended up seeing iris who now goes by Paulina. A few things. I don't know how you can say she speaks English. Not at all. We used Google translate on her phone. With that said, pictures are accurate. Maybe she's a little older but she's in great shape. Service was top notch GFE. $150 from about 10 pm till about 3 am. Amazing bobby. She's not trying to get you to come. She keeps you on edge and backs off. During doggy I tapped her back door and she grabbed some lube. 2 xs CIM which she spit out in the bathroom. A real trooper.

Will check out the others soon. Would appreciate any other feedback besides the pics being real. By a-level do you mean anal or just really good service. I'm supposed to meet Matali on Sunday and would like to know if its worth the time. Of course ill report back as I have done here!

[CastOnThis]

Strip clubs are for fools and people that don't want to do day approach. Went to Tao last night and got hassled by manager all night to tip girls. She even went so far to threaten me with bouncer if I didn't tip. Then I found a taxi driver and we went to Saloons. No good girls and at 2000 UAH an hour, the choices should have been better. I miss the days of 2010, when you go to strip club of everyday of night and the women are just drop-dead gorgeous instead of only certain nights now.

[Jojosun]

Bedding etiquette? So, I was just wondering where you men stand on replacing bedding after an encounter? Or do you guys not care? I just know how I feel about sleeping in after knowing the fact that I had a girl there just naked and we did the deed.

My bedding etiquette? Two separate beds in 2 separate rooms in my mongering world & in the real world.

"Many couples I interviewed keep that mystery alive through separate bedrooms and separate bathrooms that separate their sex lives and annoying personal rituals."

"I appreciate how separate bedrooms give me options. I can be with my partner because of desire, not necessity. Separation can banish the mundane. It's refreshing to be able to focus more on the quality of time spent together rather than the quantity."

Separate Bedrooms http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/separate-bedrooms/.

"I didn't realize just how oppressive bedtime had become until my first night settling into my sheets alone in my new apartment. I suddenly felt decades younger, ecstatically light and free. "

[CastOnThis]

Bedding etiquette? So, I was just wondering where you men stand on replacing bedding after an encounter? Or do you guys not care? I just know how I feel about sleeping in after knowing the fact that I had a girl there just naked and we did the deed.

[CastOnThis]

Tao Cabaret in place of where Arena Stars was. They still have the same interior, but most of the girls are not any better. Private dance costs 500 uah for two tracks and take-out costs 316 usd for four hours. Good bartender, though. The girls were mostly fake breasts and the ones that didn't have fake breasts would have been better off with them. One girl had breasts that looked like old grannie breasts not a good look for a twenty something. I will visit it again though next week for one girl that couldn't go out because she was on her period.

[Suka Shalava]

BRASILfutbol0

OMG, Just discovered Donetsk is for me. O god, students.
Forget chechneyan girls. This is my destination. I don't want politics!

Donetsk or Vynitsia. I support that economy.

Lmao.

All politics aside, your video scene is a just a snapshot of what plays out for any typical day in the normal life at EVERY university and institute from Vladivostok to Lviv, Murmansk to Sevastopol, and every other FSU city in between.

You would already know that, and not be laughing your ass off about it, if you had already been lucky enough to have taught or have been invited many times by professors there to speak to classes at different institutions. This was my good fortune, for several years, from ten to fifteen years ago in eastern Ukraine.

I do not deny, that in the beginning, I was also overwhelmed by the magnitude of the attractiveness of these ladies. You need to check yourself though, as that awe rather quickly fades when you face the reality that your chances are basically zero to ever hook up with 98% of them, unless you happen to be Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt. For me, friendships were easy, but I made the personal choice not to take advantage of that and lower myself down to baseless urges of filthy mongering. For me, meeting a lady that was a student of my professor friend, or of the teachers I knew that invited in to their classes, was more about maintaining a level of respect and possible long term serious relationships that could lead to getting married. In other words, this can be a place where you find a person of quality. I did pursue some of the ladies I met this way, but always as a gentleman, out of great respect for the teachers. You don't shit where you eat, as they say.

Were there some bad girls there too? No doubt brother! No shortage of heartbreaking vamps, tramps, and skamps. More than enough to keep your head spinning around until your neck aches. I guess I was also fortunate enough that I almost always had several other options and sources to hook up with for mongering, that I did not need to depend on the university for sponsoring. Most classes I visited were a lot smaller than your video, with anywhere from 10 to 20 students. Since I am not Tom Cruise, when I would make my mobile number available to the class, letting them know I needed to hire someone to assist me with translating etc. , the ones that did usually call were unfortunately not the hot ones, but the plainest ones that I just wasn't interested in. That's just my own usual sad result in life, never get the one I really want, usually only the one I don't!

Over the years, all my teacher contacts there moved on, and simply being a visitor from the West faded as something new and interesting. One of the teachers had told me she had family in a big city in central Russia, she suggested I should visit. That's actually one of the reasons I ended up going, and leaving Kharkov behind. The best decision I ever made.

Come to think about it, one of the best friends I ever made in Russia, was a lady at university. Back in 2009 or 2010, when escort agencies still were allowed to have local ladies working, (since around 2011-12, they ONLY offer ladies from Africa), I met someone who ended up introducing me to many of her girlfriends. There was a very quiet informal network of bad and semi-bad ladies who were badly in need of sponsorships, and eager to meet someone nice that would treat them very well. Unfortunately, that's all gone now too, at least for me.

So, well, good luck in Novaya Rossiya. Remember that you need an angle to get and keep your foot in the door. This bloke with the camera seemed to walk right in, no security check. I don't think that's normal. If you don't have a student ID, these places don't let you in without a pass from a teacher or professor. You can hang around the cafes and parks near the entrance, but that's a little creepy. Keep in mind everything I already told you, that what you see in Ukraine, only gets more and more interesting, as you traverse eastward into the glorious heart of the sacred motherland.

[BrasilSoccer0]

https://youtu.be/jca1luzF4tU

This is Donetsk State University.

This is utopia for me. O my effing god. How hot and sweet and innocent these students girls look. Forget the chechneyan girls. This is my number one destination. And I don't want to hear any political speech!

Just found out from another video that over a thousand of Donetsk State University students moved to a small town on my interest list Vynitsia for more stability.

I would support that economy for sure. Lmao.

[PussyFeelsGood]

Hey guys,

I am thinking about checking out Kiev and st Petersburg, I really don't know much about either but from what I can gather you can live quite cheaply there but maybe the girls aren't so cheap?

Instead of coming here and asking a ton of noob questions I was just wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction of a good site or sites that are a little easier to get caught up on the basics, I love ISG but these threads jump all over the place and learning about a new place isn't so easy here.

So if you got any ideas on how I can figure things out without asking a ton of questions that could be helpful for the both of us, thanks.

[Suka Shalava]

I tell for my style of LT mongering is that 3 yr multiple entry visa. Ukraine only gives 90 days within 180 days.

But! Are russian girls or Ukrainian girls hungrier for sex? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHO IS MORE APPROACHABLE PERSONALITY WISE?

I don't mind even Siberia, so I'll live there and stimulate the econ as the diavushkas stimulate my heart!

BTW, Chechnyan women. OMG. That's my type, but I'm not excited about going to Chechnya. LOL hoping there are other provinces.

I started 95% ukraine. I'm 50-50 .

3 year multi-entry Russian visa's are really the best option, because it's time for you to go, and once you do go, you'll be pulled back time after time like a magnet on your soul. Back in 2003, I think my travel agent in Kiev got me a 5 year business visa, but since Eurovision, visas to visit Ukraine are no longer required, right?

I can't say there's so much of a difference in women's libido between these countries. Ukraine ladies were amazing. Leaving Ukraine behind and forging eastward to the heart of the motherland is more about expanding your search for passion to new horizons and to the source. You seem to have a desire for new adventures, so stop hesitating. The only obstacle to approach new ladies is your own hesitance. For every time you stumble and fall, get up and try twice with other ladies.

If your new videos are motivating you, start with the lower Volga and work your way down, you should find many treasures. From Samara all the way to Astrakhan, then across to Krasnodar and Rostov, and finally down to Grozny, go make your own youtube history! There's nothing to fear anymore in Chechnya with Ramzan Kadyrov in charge, he's a true patriot.

[BrasilSoccer0]

I tell you so far the most appealing aspect about russia for my style of LT mongering is that damn 3 yr multiple entry visa. Ukraine only gives 90 days within 180 days.

But! Are russian girls or Ukrainian girls hungrier for sex? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHO IS MORE APPROACHABLE PERSONALITY WISE?

I don't mind the support the Russian economy. . no problem there but there has to be a symbiotic relationship If I find that in Russia even Siberia as you dare, so be it and I'll live there and stimulate the econ as the diavushkas stimulate my heart!

BTW, in my roaming through countless youtube videos (still am to compare Russian with Ukrainian women, wow. I came across Chechnyan women. OMG I am instantly in love. They got the body type I like that has nice full butt and a little bit of meat not fat just femenine shape and seem very gracious and lady like. I discovered them in chechneyan wedding videos. Haha.

That's my type of women, but I'm just not too excited about going to Chechnya. . LOL hoping there are other provinces with similar type women. .

I started 95% ukraine. After those videos I'm seriously 50-50 . Oh and the visa thing helped too. Hence the title!

Sorry to dispel your theory again, but collecting any pension is still several years down the road for this old Suka. Better to burn out, than fade away. Actually, I wish I still had my Siberian sponsorette, Olga was really something special.

For now, only Natasha waits for me, by the castle wall, captivating me, like a fairy tale.

As for you and your question about money pumping, your ability to hear when you listen is suspect. Certainly by now, you should know that you have to read between the lines. Shall I recommend a good audiologist and optometrist to bring you up to speed? I'm sure your Medicare AARP plan will cover a new hearing aide and a flashy monocle. I never said that supporting the Russian economy helps us, though now that you got me thinking about it, it actually does help us. But what I meant originally, is that it helps them. These are good people, you should be proud to play a part in getting them back on their feet.

But let me say this again, and you don't need to read between anything. How many times do I need to warn, DO NOT FUCK WITH THE BEAR! Unless you are stupid or you have a death wish or you are just cruel, why would you want to poke an angry wounded bear that's backed into a corner with a stick? It's just a really really bad idea.

Sure, its wonderful filling up my gas tank for less than $20, but there's consequences down the road. Remember a few years ago when Uncle V was out enjoying nature, fishing, riding his horse, wrestling tigers? Fools scoffed at that, but he deserves to enjoy some recreation in his life away from the office. If he likes nature, god bless him! PR stunt? Who cares!

You want to try telling me what has happened since then is ok? Are you serious? Getting bogged down in the Donbass with some knucklehead that shoots down a passenger jet full of Dutch tourists, and brags about it on twitter? And now having his own tourists shot out of the sky over Sinai? Citizens can't go on vacations anymore to Sharm or Izmir? This isn't totally fucked up? Come on, man! Foreign businesses pulling out? Now they have to resort to blaming the west for everything, including the flu? This paranoia crap is not helping!

The best thing for Europe, is a strong re-vaitalized Russian economy, in the lead on that continent. Quit yer whining. Make it happen. The alternative is unthinkable.

[Suka Shalava]

SS is going to work beyond retirement age to keep his Sponsored Siberian girls in the style he got them accustomed to.

Just to show you that I read and listen to what you say, how does pumping money into the Russian economy help us mongers?

Prices much cheaper in Russia now thanks to what you posted earlier, the Weak Ruble.

Sorry to dispel your theory again, but collecting any pension is still several years down the road for this old Suka. Better to burn out, than fade away. Actually, I wish I still had my Siberian sponsorette, Olga was really something special.

For now, only Natasha waits for me, by the castle wall, captivating me, like a fairy tale.

As for you and your question about money pumping, your ability to hear when you listen is suspect. Certainly by now, you should know that you have to read between the lines. Shall I recommend a good audiologist and optometrist to bring you up to speed? I'm sure your Medicare AARP plan will cover a new hearing aide and a flashy monocle. I never said that supporting the Russian economy helps us, though now that you got me thinking about it, it actually does help us. But what I meant originally, is that it helps them. These are good people, you should be proud to play a part in getting them back on their feet.

But let me say this again, and you don't need to read between anything. How many times do I need to warn, DO NOT FUCK WITH THE BEAR! Unless you are stupid or you have a death wish or you are just cruel, why would you want to poke an angry wounded bear that's backed into a corner with a stick? It's just a really really bad idea.

Sure, its wonderful filling up my gas tank for less than $20, but there's consequences down the road. Remember a few years ago when Uncle V was out enjoying nature, fishing, riding his horse, wrestling tigers? Fools scoffed at that, but he deserves to enjoy some recreation in his life away from the office. If he likes nature, god bless him! PR stunt? Who cares!

You want to try telling me what has happened since then is ok? Are you serious? Getting bogged down in the Donbass with some knucklehead that shoots down a passenger jet full of Dutch tourists, and brags about it on twitter? And now having his own tourists shot out of the sky over Sinai? Citizens can't go on vacations anymore to Sharm or Izmir? This isn't totally fucked up? Come on, man! Foreign businesses pulling out? Now they have to resort to blaming the west for everything, including the flu? This paranoia crap is not helping!

The best thing for Europe, is a strong re-vaitalized Russian economy, in the lead on that continent. Quit yer whining. Make it happen. The alternative is unthinkable.