Kyiv

[Iceberg27]

I don't think you need to show test results, maybe that has changed recently, check their website.

BTW, most strip clubs with few exceptions in Kyiv will let you take a girl out; it is buyers market at the moment. So I would not waste money on lap dances.

Yes I agree with Sean. If you get so much desperate in a strip club, go and visit a salon or call an escort to your hotel. Strip and lap dance is another pleasure. Probably I like it because of the beauty and youngness of girls in strip clubs. WG's usually not that cute.

Regarding test, I already had another surprise. All residents coming back from another country is requested to have a negative PCR test unless they will not be allowed to get on their return flight. So I must have a test in Ukraine just 72 hours before my return flight. What I don't understand is; Even in my country or in Ukraine someone can easily photoshop someone else's test result. How they can check the test result is real or fake? They can do that for the tests that are done in their own territory through the QR Scan but how can they understand a foreign test result is real or fake?

[Sean EZ]

You may or may not be asked to see the covid app upon entry, they may glance at your phone in your hand, then you can delete the app. Nobody cares. Nobody enforces any quarantines. People laugh at these rules. Clubs are open, under underground conditions, all strip clubs are open and arr live and well. Odessa has no lockdown, they just said fuck you to the main government and went on about their business. Any covid related discussion is useless, as I said, you are free to go and have fun.

Is it possible to obtain the test in your country, then upon arrival in Ukraine, provide proof of the test results?

I don't think you need to show test results, maybe that has changed recently, check their website.

BTW, most strip clubs with few exceptions in Kiev will let you take a girl out; it is buyers market at the moment. So I would not waste money on lap dances.

[Desin]

Thanks CastOnThis and Iceberg27! I start to get the hang of it. But for example in Penthouse the site shows that private dance for 2 tracks (6 minutes?) is 500 uah. This would not be enough for sex, so do you do the deal with the dancer privately if you want to have sex? And are you required to get that 1200 uah V. I. P room for it? 'because, know, sometimes it takes very little time to come, and sometimes not. How will it be determined? I ask these because I don't want to end up in the situation I've gotten myself 10 k bill and carry only 5-6 k without credit card (for safety reasons).

Those two places sure look as an experience to have. Bit worried for the first time, but so it was with the first time with paid girl.

[Lxxxx]

I just went to Kiev for a short business trip, and of course I could not fly away without some collateral fun. I did some research on websites and collected a few phone numbers. Basically 100% of numbers were not from individual girls, but from some "manager" who then provided pics, prices and services of individual girls. I found base prices acceptable, but extras very steep (in one case I was quoted over 100 eur just for BBJ!) and to be well clarified beforehand to avoid misunderstanding or disappointments. In the end I agreed with a "manager" called Nika for a girl for 1 hour in my hotel, the damage was 2000 UAH + 2500 UAH of extras (French kissing and BBJ) + 500 UAH of (well deserved) tip. Marta, the girl who I choose, is a 20 years pretty blonde, not tall, size 2 boobs, very nice body. We had a very good chemistry, and the hour ended up as sex with a (horny) girlfriend, with lots of French kissing, 69, sex (mostly missionary, which I prefer as it allows kissing). She was not into anal (and did not like even anal fingering), but for the rest, no constraints. I came in her mouth in end end, and I am sure I will repeat next time.

[LooseChange72]

How do you identify IG girls to target? Because there are millions of people and unless you know specific name of girls in Kiev it's totally random. Thanks.

The best way to find new talent in IG without knowing their IG handle is by searching restaurants or bars of which you know attractive women visit. The girls always take pictures and tag themselves at bars, clubs or mention that bar in their post. So basically when you search the bar, club etc you will be able to see all the post from these attractive girls. Now just pick one and try to slide in her DM (direct message).

[Timmy21]

You may or may not be asked to see the covid app upon entry, they may glance at your phone in your hand, then you can delete the app. Nobody cares. Nobody enforces any quarantines. People laugh at these rules. Clubs are open, under underground conditions, all strip clubs are open and arr live and well. Odessa has no lockdown, they just said fuck you to the main government and went on about their business. Any covid related discussion is useless, as I said, you are free to go and have fun.

Is it possible to obtain the test in your country, then upon arrival in Ukraine, provide proof of the test results?

[Iceberg27]

I've never been to a Strip Club, but it has been one of my 'to-do' things. If I'd only find one worth visiting. And now you're presented that for me.

But how do you operate in such a place? All I've learned is from the Hollywood cinema. If you go to a private dance (cost? Are you expected to just sit on your hands and not touch the girl, even if she comes closes? Is it regular that they would offer a BJ, or should one ask for it? Is sex possible in there?

And just the basics: is it okay to pay the entrance fee and maybe get one beer, just watching the show, until you get someone to come to offer you private? Or am I expected to tip bills for the dancers? Or drink constantly?

Desin Star Nosorog is like a small neighborhood restaurant that you pop in which offers great food with a low cost despite unpretentious appearance. Noone asking tips like in the other strip clubs in Ukraine. I have been in strip clubs of Vegas and the ones in Ukraine is something different. You can always touch and kiss. Girls are young and naive. Of course it is possible just to pay entrance and drink one beer only. Usually you will have pressure from girls to go private but not from waitress to drink something.

You may or may not be asked to see the covid app upon entry, they may glance at your phone in your hand, then you can delete the app. Nobody cares. Nobody enforces any quarantines. People laugh at these rules. Clubs are open, under underground conditions, all strip clubs are open and arr live and well. Odessa has no lockdown, they just said fuck you to the main government and went on about their business. Any covid related discussion is useless, as I said, you are free to go and have fun.

This isn't UK or US where you may get fined or even arrested.

Sean, Thanks for the information you provided. You save me the test cost. I am planning to go without test and will tell them get myself in quarantine and just delete the app after I get out of the airport. My only concern is if police stop me in city they could ask the app and ask for some money. I am sure they will ask for money in any case again even if I had the test but anyway.

[Sean EZ]

You may or may not be asked to see the covid app upon entry, they may glance at your phone in your hand, then you can delete the app. Nobody cares. Nobody enforces any quarantines. People laugh at these rules. Clubs are open, under underground conditions, all strip clubs are open and arr live and well. Odessa has no lockdown, they just said fuck you to the main government and went on about their business. Any covid related discussion is useless, as I said, you are free to go and have fun.

This isn't UK or US where you may get fined or even arrested.

[CastOnThis]

I've never been to a Strip Club, but it has been one of my 'to-do' things. If I'd only find one worth visiting. And now you're presented that for me.

But how do you operate in such a place? All I've learned is from the Hollywood cinema. If you go to a private dance (cost? Are you expected to just sit on your hands and not touch the girl, even if she comes closes? Is it regular that they would offer a BJ, or should one ask for it? Is sex possible in there?

And just the basics: is it okay to pay the entrance fee and maybe get one beer, just watching the show, until you get someone to come to offer you private? Or am I expected to tip bills for the dancers? Or drink constantly?

Kiev Stripclubs are brothels. Most girls are working and the ones that are "not" mean they don't find you attractive enough to go out with. You can have sex on-premise at Penthouse, the one close to Arena, but not in Arena. They are not air dances and mileage may vary. I was sucking pussy and licking ass during the dances or some other times I was told not to touch there. Drink enough alcohol and your mouth will sanitize anything you lick or put in your mouth.

Be careful, they constantly want "tips" for doing nothing. Don't give them money and stay close to the edge if you are sitting at a table.

[Desin]

Star Rhino looks great based on online pics and presence. It seems many of the Kiev stripclubs have super nice interior and showcase very attractive girls on their websites etc. I have never been to Kiev before but love stripclubs, and you mention that pants might come of in the VIP sound promising.

https://www.cityguidekiev.com/cat/strip-clubs/

I've never been to a Strip Club, but it has been one of my 'to-do' things. If I'd only find one worth visiting. And now you're presented that for me.

But how do you operate in such a place? All I've learned is from the Hollywood cinema. If you go to a private dance (cost? Are you expected to just sit on your hands and not touch the girl, even if she comes closes? Is it regular that they would offer a BJ, or should one ask for it? Is sex possible in there?

And just the basics: is it okay to pay the entrance fee and maybe get one beer, just watching the show, until you get someone to come to offer you private? Or am I expected to tip bills for the dancers? Or drink constantly?

[Iceberg27]

It depends on the time of your arrival. In the summer there was more control. In general, travelers from the risk area are stopped at passport control. Without insurance and without an active "DIY Vdoma" app you will not be allowed to enter the country.

Will there be no consequences if you uninstall the app later? If you ignore the quarantine or don't do a test? Maybe. But the consequences may only arise when you go on one of your next trips to Ukraine.

Anyway I am sure that the police will soon control Turks and Arabs more closely. Even so on the street. The winter is hard. Everyone needs money.

If the classification of Turkey as "red" is not yet visible on the airline's website or on other websites, this is not relevant. Only the classification by the official government website matters. Turkey lied to the whole world over the summer. The corona numbers were always wrong. As a resident of a fraudulent country, why don't you want to face the consequences now? English, Americans, French and citizens of other countries had to take such tests all summer.

I really find it very ridiculous if you think, it is dishonest if someone give up this stupid and unreasonable red zone resident quarantine. Really funny. Many precautions settled by governments are being realized because they couldn't manage the pandemic and the main reason for that they don't have enough money and good economy to maintain it. So briefly self-quarantine for red zone residents in Ukraine is just nonsense and tint. Just before your last post we were discussing here travel issues as the main purpose of this forum but suddenly you bring up a political issue on table and diverting the argument. Why should I be blamed for a government's attitude that I never voted just because I am a resident in this country? As if not enough to experience roughness of the governments in my own country and additionally I have to listen your hum when I am outside? I will note that your post is reported to administration because I am not enthusiastic to go into a political argument here with anyone. But if so then are you ready to face the consequences of your governments at that time frauds in Iraq or Vietnam in the past? Do you want that I blame you for all of these?

This highlights the dangers and hassles of traveling in these challenging times. Different sources of information do not match, info changes rapidly and sometimes in non logical ways. If it is not countries imposing new rules, it is airlines changing flights to avoid going bankrupt. Traveling for touristic / mongering reasons right now is at each persons own risk. I gave up two trips in Europe this Fall: Mostly to avoid contributing to spreading Covid and thinking touristing in a Covid restricted city is limiting but also due to not trusting the governments of the countries I was going to fully (Poland and Turkey) and thinking that I could be stuck in quarantine in a foreign country for a long time.

This could happen anywhere: Netherlands recent decision to stop flights from UK is one example, but personally I am more careful when it comes to countries / governments with lower levels of democracy and transparency.

You will never be stuck here and noone has been. Turkey needs money and nearly they will put red carpet to the tourists coming here. You are exception for lockdown rules as a tourist.

[DramaFree11]

This highlights the dangers and hassles of traveling in these challenging times. Different sources of information do not match, info changes rapidly and sometimes in non logical ways. If it is not countries imposing new rules, it is airlines changing flights to avoid going bankrupt. Traveling for touristic / mongering reasons right now is at each persons own risk. I gave up two trips in Europe this Fall: Mostly to avoid contributing to spreading Covid and thinking touristing in a Covid restricted city is limiting but also due to not trusting the governments of the countries I was going to fully (Poland and Turkey) and thinking that I could be stuck in quarantine in a foreign country for a long time.

This could happen anywhere: Netherlands recent decision to stop flights from UK is one example, but personally I am more careful when it comes to countries / governments with lower levels of democracy and transparency.

This a real good post. I have also canceled several trips and I am hanging out in MTY the reasons you listed. Guys need to be very careful, If you get the Virus or get stuck in Lockdown, you could be strained for months not weeks, which could be financially devastating. The airlines and Goverments are in total control. Imagine getting sick on an International flight and testing Positive you are so screwed. Traveling international is just too risky now.

[Wiild]

This highlights the dangers and hassles of traveling in these challenging times. Different sources of information do not match, info changes rapidly and sometimes in non logical ways. If it is not countries imposing new rules, it is airlines changing flights to avoid going bankrupt. Traveling for touristic / mongering reasons right now is at each persons own risk. I gave up two trips in Europe this Fall: Mostly to avoid contributing to spreading Covid and thinking touristing in a Covid restricted city is limiting but also due to not trusting the governments of the countries I was going to fully (Poland and Turkey) and thinking that I could be stuck in quarantine in a foreign country for a long time.

This could happen anywhere: Netherlands recent decision to stop flights from UK is one example, but personally I am more careful when it comes to countries / governments with lower levels of democracy and transparency.

On Turkish airlines web page we still look in green zone and says no quarantine for Turkey. If that's not real information I don't know what is.

[Misterxxx]

Misterx,

Thanks for sharing but I will keep recommending you double-check because at the moment when you write, Turkey was on the Green list. Visitukraine also changed the information just last night. I need more information about this quarantine and V Diloma thing. It is a lot of money and pain in the neck to get tested. If they don't give a sht to follow you that you are lockdown in a hotel or not then it doesn't make sense to get tested. Is there anyone who can share the experience? I saw SeanEz's post but many guys here want to be %100 sure before departure.

It depends on the time of your arrival. In the summer there was more control. In general, travelers from the risk area are stopped at passport control. Without insurance and without an active "DIY Vdoma" app you will not be allowed to enter the country.

Will there be no consequences if you uninstall the app later? If you ignore the quarantine or don't do a test? Maybe. But the consequences may only arise when you go on one of your next trips to Ukraine.

Anyway I am sure that the police will soon control Turks and Arabs more closely. Even so on the street. The winter is hard. Everyone needs money.

If the classification of Turkey as "red" is not yet visible on the airline's website or on other websites, this is not relevant. Only the classification by the official government website matters. [Deleted by Admin]

[Rugga]

Speaking of IG. That used to be my primary source to find these hidden gems of Kiev but lately I need to message 10+ girls just to get a response so that well

How do you identify IG girls to target? Because there are millions of people and unless you know specific name of girls in Kiev it's totally random. Thanks.