Kyiv

[Stevie69]

Yes, the amount itself is not much for anyone from the "west", but you would at least have to make sure it is your kid. That means carrying on your own paternity test.

I am not a family law lawyer, so, I am just suggesting this as a possibility, but she might be able to sue you for child support in your country. Laws in the "west" have become exceedingly gynocentric, so, if she were to file a suit in your country, she might get significantly more child support, enough for her, the boyfriend and their kid to live in luxury.

There are some really horrible stories out there, cases in which the father unable to pay is put in jail, until he can pay, which he cannot do because he is in jail, so technically for the rest of his life. Just check the story of Dave Foley (from "Kids in the Hall" and "News Radio".

It is better is you always use and condom and a fake name, as I do.

I think you can handle the average child support award in Ukraine. According to an article, "From 1 July 2018 the sustenance level had been raised from 1,700 hryvnya (USD $65) to 1,777 hryvnya ($67) on July 1, 2018. " https://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/ch...rt-in-ukraine/ The hard part will be to avoid paternity fraud. Every effort will be made to have the rich foreigner stuck with the monthly child support bill, so when he leaves, she and her local Ukrainian boyfriend and their baby will be living off of you. I understand that fake paternity DNA tests are available online for a small price. . .

[Visal]

There are some girls, they will ask you a lot of questions. Some would ask only a few questions. All of the answers will lead them to know you and to categorize you. If you fit into the category that they want, then god save you.

Just like tourists are asked by the tour guides or road thugs about are they here for a business trip as well? How long are they here? If you are here for a long time and not for business then you must be rich is what the road thugs come to know. If you answer for 2 days for business, then also you are rich is what the thugs would come to know.

Similarly the girls will ask you and come to know how much you can be looted.

[TinyHippo]

I think you can handle the average child support award in Ukraine. According to an article, "From 1 July 2018 the sustenance level had been raised from 1,700 hryvnya (USD $65) to 1,777 hryvnya ($67) on July 1, 2018. " https://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/ch...rt-in-ukraine/ The hard part will be to avoid paternity fraud. Every effort will be made to have the rich foreigner stuck with the monthly child support bill, so when he leaves, she and her local Ukrainian boyfriend and their baby will be living off of you. I understand that fake paternity DNA tests are available online for a small price..

Isn't that for Ukrainian men? Most of us are foreigners. Not a lawyer, but if I got a girl pregnant the child would become an EU citizen. Then she can sue me for child support in my country which is anywhere from 10-20% of my salary.

[Travv]

I think you can handle the average child support award in Ukraine. According to an article, "From 1 July 2018 the sustenance level had been raised from 1,700 hryvnya (USD $65) to 1,777 hryvnya ($67) on July 1, 2018. " https://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/ch...rt-in-ukraine/ The hard part will be to avoid paternity fraud. Every effort will be made to have the rich foreigner stuck with the monthly child support bill, so when he leaves, she and her local Ukrainian boyfriend and their baby will be living off of you. I understand that fake paternity DNA tests are available online for a small price. . .

Thanks for having some common sense on this board!

Most countries have parental reciprocation laws with Ukraine. That means you will have to pay child support for 18 wonderful years if the baby is yours. I am not sure about China, but in the EU or in the USA you can go to jail for not paying child support even if it is in a foreign country.

[PhotoSlider]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!...

...That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

And as Stevie said, negotiate in UAH, not in USD / EUR.

Last night: two gorgeous young ladies started at $100 an hour each. Ended up being 2 hours for 2250 UAH each, 4500 UAH total + 100 UAH taxi. Finally more than 3 hours and great sex. Kiev rocks!

[PhotoSlider]

Dear fellow mongers. Do not do threesomes without explicitly discussing with girls what is it that you want from them.

As usual one of my ladies stormed out ashamed of what I tried to get her into, while the other one greatly enjoyed the process and delivered much more than I anticipated.

Just like with anything else, do not assume. And even better. Get the girls that know each other sexually real well.

In the end, they left me a happy man.

[TinyHippo]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

Thanks for having some common sense on this board!

Most countries have parental reciprocation laws with Ukraine. That means you will have to pay child support for 18 wonderful years if the baby is yours. I am not sure about China, but in the EU or in the USA you can go to jail for not paying child support even if it is in a foreign country.

[AntonySun1996]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

But according to the articles I read on the internet, eggs die within 20 hours after ovulation, while semens can survive within the woman's body for 5-7 days, so the most fertile time is the 5-7 day period before the eggs die.

[AntonySun1996]

Chances reduce hugely after 2 weeks, but in my case, I have got the girl pregnant in just one go after this 2-week time. It depends on the health of the girl and boy.

haha something is telling me....are you checking if it is his or someone else's? ...The most common confusion in guys.

She's not pregnant yet, I'm just wondering what would happen if she is.

[DramaFree11]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

Read my mind. I have been chased by lawyers, they can make your life a living Hell. Just when you think they are gone they will reappear, especially if they are on commission.

[Gargano19]

Chances reduce hugely after 2 weeks, but in my case, I have got the girl pregnant in just one go after this 2-week time. It depends on the health of the girl and boy.

haha something is telling me....are you checking if it is his or someone else's? ...The most common confusion in guys.

That is the problem with Unprotected sex, she can just try to put the baby on you.

[Visal]

But is it possible for the girl to get pregnant if sex occurred after 2 weeks after her period? I've heard that eggs die within 20 hours or so after ovulation, but don't know if pregnancy would still be possible after that. I am quite ignorant in this field.

I don't worry about STDs or HIV, as I am sure that my girl is clean. I don't practice unprotected sex until I get to know the girl quite well.

Chances reduce hugely after 2 weeks, but in my case, I have got the girl pregnant in just one go after this 2-week time. It depends on the health of the girl and boy.

haha something is telling me....are you checking if it is his or someone else's? ...The most common confusion in guys.

[Stevie69]

Just when I thought you were developing little wisdom!

Yes, that is the most fertile time. Half way into her ovulation cycle. They teach this in grade 8!

How can you possibly know your girl is clean? You know that she is having unprotected sex with sex tourists.

Your only hope is if the kid is not yours, so make sure you, not her, carry out a parentage test.

That is what happens when you start flashing too much money in front of women.

But is it possible for the girl to get pregnant if sex occurred after 2 weeks after her period? I've heard that eggs die within 20 hours or so after ovulation, but don't know if pregnancy would still be possible after that. I am quite ignorant in this field.

I don't worry about STDs or HIV, as I am sure that my girl is clean. I don't practice unprotected sex until I get to know the girl quite well.

[PaoloKnoks]

Bonus pics.

Hi,

I am in Kiev for two weeks, I like very much this big breast girl, have you contact number of her? Some more sexy photos or just this?

Thanks in advance.

[Arkiloko]

Speaking like a wise man, Antony.

Kiev can traumatize male psyche. Happened to me more than once, but in a different way. I wasn't scammed or dumped. It's those cases when I find a diamond in the rough, and then leave for the airport, and for a week or two can not find peace with my own self.

Therefore it is paramount to set one's priorities while visiting. I come to meet new girls and enjoy their company to full extent. Not to marry. I do establish long term relationships lasting for years, but I am realistic. Girls meet me for entertainment and financial support.

Rejecting Kiev IMO means depriving oneself of true pleasures in one of the best mongering destinations. To me it is the best, but my case is not typical for this Forum. Maybe I represent 5-10% of the visitors, not necessarily top.

I agree entirely.