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07-24-19 16:07 #19867
Posts: 154Don't say I double posted!
Originally Posted by ShawMan74 [View Original Post]
Another interesting thing I noticed. I tried to pass alissya my contact info, to which she had pen and paper in the kitchen (you know, where mamasan is). I asked if that would be ok, she said that it would be totally fine (well I wrote her my name and number, and I haven't heard from her since. (sarcasm) gee I wonder why. They probably threw it away the moment I wasn't looking. But I don't know if I'd be welcome back, or if it would just be weird. (especially if alissya happens to be working there when I show up.) something to think about.
But it brings me back to the idea of trying out the other offerings on sample. There are massage parlors (I REALLY want to do nuru. I've never done it and I want my first time to be with one of these exceptionally beautiful women). I've heard of actual porn stars that also escort out of Kiev (one of them I have a real boner for). I know strip clubs are death traps but the idea of her initiating contact with you first is something new, I got to get around to it but I have cold feet based on a really viscious experience I survived in russia (I consider it an attempt on life). Of course I am going to get to ordering in / takeout as well, just haven't sampled that option yet.
Here's some I found, let me know if you have intel on any of it.
https://vipmassage.kiev.ua/en/services
https://moulin-rouge.kiev.ua/en/vip-massage-program
http://salondream.kiev.ua/massage-prices-2/
https://erotic-massage-kiev.com/en/
http://en.erotic-massage.org/
That's what I have for the massage parlors. As far as the porn star, its really expensive, and I've seen some of the scenes she's been in (ugh, YUK!) but I got to pretend none of that happened, the only sex she's ever had are the scenes that I keep replaying, and THAT'S IT DAMMIT! It would be the only way I ever got to experience her, because she happens to be here and so am I. LOL.
Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas? THANKS!
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07-24-19 13:46 #19866
Posts: 220Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
You do not understand the language. This is the mistake. Otherwise, you would understand what is often spoken about.
Are there raids on tourists? Yes. Every day.
Not just pickpocketing. Raids.
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07-24-19 00:46 #19865
Posts: 154Day 5
"but where's the beef?" (70's babies will know that reference.) that's how my day started. Finding out that the local grocery store here does not bother to sell beef. What kind of shit is this? Oh well, I just got some butter and cheese instead. Oooonly to find out when I got home that they actually mix chocolate into the butter here!! Chocolate butter and monkeys on your head at 10 in the morning (yes that happened, please don't ask), gents. This is rivendell. *sighhhhh.
Last couple of days I've been waking up with a nail in my pants so I decided it was time I got back to work. Between plenty of rest, starting the excursion a little earlier in the night, having a cholesterol rich diet, testosterone, progesterone, and a solid plan, I felt confident to use some of the slidenifil. Tonight was going to happen and I came loaded for bear!
The solid plan.
I suggested to cabby that maybe we could look for massage parlors instead. The operating theory was that a good ol' fashioned hand party was guaranteed to do the job, and worst case, we can always find another one if the first one we try isn't up to snuff. His idea instead was to try the apartments, and only if they don't deliver, go to the massage parlors as a last resort. Smart man. (plus he gets that commission.).
But after witnessing a dirth of available providers, and lots and lots and lots of dudes going in and out of the building, I felt less encouraged about that particular apartment. (it was the same one he took me to last time.) he suggested we go to the higher-end options not to stay, but to take the opportunity to take some notes maybe get some insight into what those options are. He's a smart man, so we did just that. And we walked out just as disappointed. The girl (yes, there was only one) had grey teeth, a drippy nose, a droopy back, and a saddlebag ass. Maybe she is considered higher-end because she is newer? Even cabby said that was a good call. Don't ask me what her name is, I already forgot, you would too, so it's a moot point.
So we went to a second apartment! It is located around the corner in a different district of the city. Not terribly far but you'll need a cab. Its close to an enormous church or something (has a HUGE brick courtyard). I did note that its close to a place that does sugar wax. *Ahem, that will come in handy after a few weeks. Thank you very much.
Again, unmarked building. No way of knowing what it is from the outside. We went in and were greeted by friendly staff, warm smiles. And again, lots of dudes. Yall, Sunday is just not a good night around here. One drawback to this place is that it is so small. The rooms are immediately adjacent to the main room where everybody lounges. When you step out, you are on the walk of shame. Fast forward past the goofy introductions and the hanging out for a bit yada yada yada. I picked alissya.
Alissya.
Another buttaface, but that's ok. She's small, not sexy like the last one but a very sweet girl with a cute little body. She speaks some english, which made a huge difference.
Another brunette, but she tried to lighten it with cheap store-bought stuff, so now its that off-eggplant purpleish color we last saw in the mid-90's. Everything natural on her, 22 years old.
After the 2100 UKH to get the party started, she turned off the lights. With my hands outstretched I yelled, "marco. Marco! She replied "polo!" and ran over to me, put my hands on her tits, and the rest is history. Or rather, she came over, and then did. Not. Stop coming for the rest of the hour hehe. She might suck the meanest dick this side of the dnieper, I didn't find out, we never got that far. Once our clothes came off, we started rubbing eachother, making out (which took her some time to get warmed up to but she gave in, it was SO cute, SO sweet). And she already started coming! LOL this is before I ever got it in. So I can't really say if her pussy is loose (def not like the last one), because she already came, a LOT. She has a standard hooker's pussy, not extremely loose but not tight at all. After a LOT of fucking I was finally able to come by grabbing her ass and squeezing it together while I was on top thrusting.
If you want to know what all that ended up looking like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbmmI5utBc that was pretty much my pecker in her hole, except that I was on top, and all the cute squeaking noises were coming from her.
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07-23-19 18:16 #19864
Posts: 823Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
Father of my friend has lived in Kiev for decades and was mugged on Maidan square, assaulted for his wallet during the day in the crowd. Hit in the head. Things happen.
There are online crime maps available, showing crime frequency and recent reports.
I wouldn't rent first or second floor apartment. Burglaries in Kiev are frequently performed through the second floor balconies. Some of those are reported in reviews on AirBnB:
"Somebody has broken a balcony lock and committed a theft in the night, while we were inside the apartment and slept. Landlord has contacted her assistant, who promptly changed all the locks in the apartment, secured a balcony door e. T. see. , in the same time we heard from him that it was not a first theft in this apartment, but they experienced one more 1 year ago."
Chances of valuables "lifted" by visiting ladies are low, but not zero, especially with independents.
Generally speaking, Kiev is safe.
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07-23-19 08:06 #19863
Posts: 242Central Kyiv is very safe, as are the middle class suburbs (Pozniaki, Obolon). There are some rough suburbs however, where solitary forigners can expect to be confronted by robbers armed with knives or worse, whether day or night. Photoslider mentioned Troeschina. There are also some rough areas in Solomyanskyi district towards Vyshneve. Or so I've been warned. No reason to be in these areas unless you are seeking very cheap drug-addict prostitutes (probably infected with HIV).
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07-23-19 02:17 #19862
Posts: 2777Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
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07-23-19 01:06 #19861
Posts: 480Originally Posted by Semplice [View Original Post]
Kiev is safe. Period. I don't agree that only around Kreshiatik is safe. I never experienced at any time in any Rayon and problems. Not in daytime and not at night.
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07-22-19 17:13 #19860
Posts: 7I want to thank everyone for the logistical info and share the results found here and on other sources, for the benefit of all those who will visit Kiev the first time and have no contacts or trusted girls.
You must remain in the center, close to the areas indicated in red on the image, preferably zone 2:
Pros:
1) proximity to many clubs and massage centers within walking distance, always useful if the appointments do not end well.
2) areas with lots of safe public places for the first meetings and a walk.
3) restaurants and other attractions for moments of solitude or rest.
4) easy travel arrangements, public transport and taxis.
Cons:
1) hotel prices and apartments a little higher.
2) you should always ask before you book if In the apartments and hotels you can host different girls at no extra cost or gifts, at every hour.
Please let me know your opinions. Do you think it would be useful to make a list of hotels and apartments that are friendly and safe?
Thanks to all and I hope to come back and do a nice review with some interesting and useful information.
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07-22-19 16:40 #19859
Posts: 7Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
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07-21-19 22:53 #19858
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Semplice [View Original Post]
I never had any problems in Kiev. IMHO downtown is very safe as long as you don't ask for trouble.
There is pick pocketing in tight crowds and on public transportation. In the past corrupt police harassed drunk idiots. Nothing out of the ordinary.
I try to avoid Maidan, Arena City, any seedy places like Dolls strip club. During soccer games stay away from the Olympic Stadium, sport bars and pubs with fans, etc.
There are occasional shootings mostly from traumatic weapons and very rare targeted assassinations with explosions due to unavoidable influx from the war and "friendly" northern neighbor perpetrating its understanding of the world order, but the ultimate effect is nowhere near 4th of July Independence Day in Chicago two weeks ago when 36 people were shot, 5 of them fatally. In Kiev the most frequent reason is the road rage due to bad traffic. Mongers do not drive, taxi drivers mostly behave.
More poor neighborhoods far away from downtown, like Troeschina, have more drugs and other crime problems.
Stay downtown, do not look concerned, do not flash cash or expensive valuables, and you'll be just fine. 5-10 blocks around K is more than enough for most visitors.
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07-21-19 11:56 #19857
Posts: 7Hi everyone,
I have another question for my preparations.
What is the best position in Kiev. I mean, which are the main streets where you can take a walk in the evening, find club's and restaurant's and in general night life at walking distance?
Is it safe the center walking alone?
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07-20-19 04:36 #19856
Posts: 623Awesome story telling ShawMan! Thanks for sharing and please keep it coming. I'd think you want to return there to test drive the other hotties.
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07-20-19 02:01 #19855
Posts: 35When you guys order girls from relaxkiev you don't think its safe seeing them in your flats? I have never tried relaxkiev.
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07-20-19 01:07 #19854
Posts: 7Originally Posted by MichiT [View Original Post]
That security as a reception is always an advantage. They don't care about what you do as long as you do not disturb the others. But they are there if something happens.
Any other suggestions are appreciate.
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07-19-19 23:40 #19853
Posts: 154Day 2
Alright. Comedy or tragedy. I report, you decide.
Woke up, took care of some blah blah blah, and after all that I sat to "rest my eyes" around 2:45 pm or so. As I opened my eyes and looked at the time I saw it was 8:30 pm and I was feeling totally refreshed! #facepalm.
First things first, dinner is apparently the new breakfast, which I shared with a forum member, and we hung out for a few hours. (you know who you are, that was a good time man.) I could have called it an evening, and I would have been ahead. But that's not how people like us work. I was still wide awake, and my better half got the better of me. "lets get out there and get our hands dirty" said the devil on my shoulder, and that's what I did. I texted the cabby I met the night before, he came to pick me up, and we went over some strategy.
We decided that for tonight, just hit the "easy button" and go to an apartment. Also, we picked a nearby one and went mid-grade all the way. The idea being that this is just price of education, we are gauging levels to find the best game plan for the future. I am here for 2 moths after all, no sense in ruining a good business relationship over petty greed. He explained that the apartments charge me and they give him a commission. I don't pay him anything for the transport, just an optional tip at the end of the night (which I gave him 300 hyr). The price would be 2100 hyr / HR which the girl takes from me. There are places with girls that start much higher, but we'd only cross that bridge if we needed to. He would be waiting for me outside. He also explained that mid week is bullshit and also that girls start early in the evening. By mid-evening they have the burden of exhaustion. Takeout is also on offer at these places, so often times, the best ones get plundered by mid-evening. Therefore, the best way to get the best girls is if you start earlier in the night, and on a weekend. After you've been at this for a while, you'll find one you REALLY like and then arrange for takeouts from that point on. This also gives you time to pop a viagra if you must. Unless you're the kind of guy who does that sort of thing blindly before the evening starts (not knowing if he's going to "get it in" or not) and then after 'exercising the better part of valor' in the face of several gynosaurus rex (aka, just running away), then finding yourself meandering the late night diners hungry as a horse (for being up so late) with a raging hard-on even the kitchen crew can spot through your faded 90's jeans. (when that happens to me I just wink at the waitress and tell her the bus boy brings the best out of me. HAHA) <-- I can make that joke because I bussed tables in college.
The place we went to is real close by, just down the street from men's club. Its unmarked, so you have to know where it is, and they have to buzz you in. In this regard, I'm assuming it helped that they knew my cabby. We went in, I was seated, and 4 beauties were lined up. 2 of 4 were knockout gorgeous, but 1 was a dimepiece, legit (that's the one I picked of course). The remaining one could punch her own ticket in the usa but here, next to those other 3, she didn't stand a chance. I looked over at my cabby and said "I thought you said these girls are merely average, are we in the right place?" he looked over, smirked and said "pssht, average".
The one I picked is named sabina. She is a spinner par excellence. That's what I like, a runner or a ballerina's body. Short, petite, firm, athletic, size 0, not an ounce of fat on her, young, and natural be-cup boobs. Where the body is a total 9, her face is only about a 6. 5, but she had a jessica jones thing going for her that really turned me on. Long black hair, crop cut bangs (slavic style), not that I really give a shit about the hair as long as they have some (don't be bald if you're a girl).
She may have had a few clients before me and she might have been burned-out, who knows. Lots and lots of little "no's" and rules, but she can be warmed up. I took that as a personal challenge because as of right now, every experience chips away at the learning curve of a new city. Besides, god knows I wasn't going to come in her pussy, that cootch was blown out like chernobyl! Seriously, it was like flinging a hot dog down a hallway, NO tread left on those tires hehehe. I got soft while I was still inside her, and we were only 20 minutes in!! I pulled out, and *ahem, took care of matters personally. After that I just found a way to maintain a conversation with her, just to see how much of the remaining time i could redeem (that, and I didn't want to wait on the street for my cabby if he was in the middle of something else). By the end, she melted in my hands and didn't want to let me go. Victory was mine, all through google translate because she doesn't speak a lick of english, not too shabby! And now that my boner was killed, it's safe for the good people at that late night diner.
For those who need to know, the punch sequence was pretty standard. Rubbing, CBJ, missionary, failure, more rubbing, more CBJ, more crippling OCD, finished with amusing myself (all in 20 minutes). As for a repeat, for me its a no. But if you like swimming and you need your exercise, her name is sabina.