Kyiv

[Curious12]

Are there Wi-Fi spots all over the city (cafes, restaurants, etc)?

Pretty much everywhere. McD is the most popular one. Many other restaurants / cafes / bars will have wi fi as well.

[PhotoSlider]

...Better than a pet cat because I don't have to feed her or clean the litter box...

OMG! Your metaphors are taken from Nabokov's book, no less!

..The one time in my life I tried managing a harem I nearly went crazy and finally got rid of them all...

Enjoying it myself for over five years in a row now. And I am far from being the only one on this Forum.

The favorite one in the harem doesn't mind my occasional escapades on a side. Stronger Kiev girls have enough self-respect not to spoil relationship with jealousy.

Old age is funny. Good news is older people tend to be constantly cheerful and happy, as I am, at least if in good physical health. Maybe loss of interest in sex the secret to their constant good mood.

10 years ago I was told that soon my promiscuity will fade away. Still waiting for that to happen. Somehow, even without any help from pharmaceutical companies, Ukrainian ladies arouse strong desire to partake on a regular basis.

[PhotoSlider]

It is quite common for Ukrainian girls to address a man as "dear" or "my dear", no need to think of Africa. Girls from Nigeria or Ghana do often use fake location but usually post picture revealing their blackness. I've been "deared" my many Ukrainian girls, and often quite tenderly.

The reason is quite simple:

For many centuries ladies around the world do not use first name for their male counterparts to avoid confusion. Let's say you are Michael and she calls you Alex instead, while you think you are the one and only one.

Hence "my dear", "honey", "darling", etc.

Many mamba responses are cookie-cutter. Boys do it, girls are no different.

I insist on using real first names for my girlfriends, and am certainly pleased when they reciprocate.

[TeFab456]

Or some addressed me with "my dear". That is typically for Nigeria / Ghana scam!

It is quite common for Ukrainian girls to address a man as "dear" or "my dear", no need to think of Africa. Girls from Nigeria or Ghana do often use fake location but usually post picture revealing their blackness. I've been "deared" my many Ukrainian girls, and often quite tenderly.

[Misterxxx]

I spent hours and hours preparing for my 23 June trip to Kiev...

The date is a problem.

1. It's right after Ramadan. A lot of arabian people who didn't come to Kiev during Ramadan will flush into the city. The price will go up.

It's always better to go during the Ramadan time. Because there are less arabian clients.

2. It's holiday season. A lot of girls already went to the sea-side or visit family-members in another country.

3. Most girls don't want to give the contact number if you are not in Kiev. Too many people just sit at home, rubbing the dick and will never come.

Most girls also need money "right now". To pay the rent or to buy a new phone. They don't care if you come in 2 or 3 weeks. At that time they can already have a new boyfriend and be angels.

[AandradeBoy23]

I do have a tip for you that want an alternative to Mamba and Tinder. Fdating is a totally free international dating site, from my experience almost free of scam-girls.

Most of the girls are from Russia and Ukraine and there can be over 1000 girls online an evening. There are many, many from Kiev.

It works best with a computer, its not an app.

Thanks a ton for the information. I really think that it can be very useful for a brief visit to the Ukrainian capital.

Do these girls give their number so easily? Are there Wi-Fi spots all over the city (cafes, restaurants, etc)?

Thanks in advance!

[DramaFree11]

Not sure why this is a big surprise, this has been talked about many times. A lot guys tend to exaggerate. Kiev is difficult, unless you have real low standards. The only thing that works in grinding away on the streets, but be prepared for many rejections.

There are so many scams in Kiev, thank you for your honesty and speaking about this subject. A lot of guys, just are not honest and say how easy it is in Kiev, just not true.

Mamba turns out to be bullshit working girl girl website!

I spent hours and hours preparing for my 23 June trip to Kiev. Often it sounded good but eventually, all girls started about money. Some want 200 EUR a night, some 1000 EUR a week, etc. Plus, needless to say, they expect you to invite them to expensive restaurants and expensive food / drink, shopping, mini bar, taxi etc. Finally, 200 EUR per night will easily become 400 EUR.

Another scam I came across: some beautiful top girls immediately agreed to meet. But the never want to call on video phone. Always next day. Or some addressed me with "my dear". That is typically for Nigeria / Ghana scam!

For me, nooooo! Nada such thing! I will go again good old way, walking around talk to girls in park, beach, river, restaurant. Who wants to join me?

[Member #4722]

Mamba turns out to be bullshit working girl girl website!

I spent hours and hours preparing for my 23 June trip to Kiev. Often it sounded good but eventually, all girls started about money. Some want 200 EUR a night, some 1000 EUR a week, etc. PLUS, needless to say, they expect you to invite them to expensive restaurants and expensive food / drink, shopping, mini bar, taxi etc. Finaally, 200 EUR per night will easily become 400 EUR.

Another scam I came accross: some beautiful top girls imnediately agreed to meet. But the never want to call on video phone. Always next day. Or some addressed me with "my dear". That is typically for Nigeria/Ghana scam!

For me, nooooo! Nada such thing! I will go again good old way, walking around talk to girls in park, beach, river, restuaant Who wants to join me?

Really?? I sent out about 100 messages and only got 7-10 responses but got some nice contacts already $100/ HR or $100 for two hours. Granted I like girls next door slim with fair skin but their Viber pics match their profile pics.

[Michi T]

Mamba turns out to be bullshit working girl girl website!

I spent hours and hours preparing for my 23 June trip to Kiev. Often it sounded good but eventually, all girls started about money. Some want 200 EUR a night, some 1000 EUR a week, etc. PLUS, needless to say, they expect you to invite them to expensive restaurants and expensive food / drink, shopping, mini bar, taxi etc. Finaally, 200 EUR per night will easily become 400 EUR.

Another scam I came accross: some beautiful top girls imnediately agreed to meet. But the never want to call on video phone. Always next day. Or some addressed me with "my dear". That is typically for Nigeria/Ghana scam!

For me, nooooo! Nada such thing! I will go again good old way, walking around talk to girls in park, beach, river, restuaant Who wants to join me?

Thanks.

For this information and happy to know that there is now a better option to Mamba.

Please let me know the web details to see this Fdating.

Thanks.

[Riina]

My info points to a different reason. As from what I know, a "German" (probably of Turkish / Arab origin) was arrested with some hooker, turns out she was sent by Gia, this set in motion a "human traffic" investigation, Ukraine is begging the EU for money, so they have no option now but to throw their "friends" to the wolves in Brussles.

Are you saying something bad happened to a Gia girl outside the country? I can believe this. Agencies are taken down if a girl gets hurt.

I don't think Brussels gives a shit about prostitution in Ukraine, especially Gia.

[Johneash]

Gia was in the business for a very long time.

Maybe the bosses are different today.

Maybe the new chiefs of the police are more honest.

Maybe the bosses just wanted more money.

And Gia did not pay.

Often foreigners. Turks. Arab.

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My info points to a different reason. As from what I know, a "German" (probably of Turkish / Arab origin) was arrested with some hooker, turns out she was sent by Gia, this set in motion a "human traffic" investigation, Ukraine is begging the EU for money, so they have no option now but to throw their "friends" to the wolves in Brussles.

Klitschko was only to happy to be the good little puppy. The most hillarious thing about all this, is the idiots that sent thier bank details & passport scans to hire from Gia. LOL. (ahh, but don't worry, the Ukraine police are known for their honor & high regard for justice. Loool) You guys are sooo fked, if in the EU, the knock on the door is coming, if outside the EU, expect the blackmail notes to arrive. If you are a penny less bum. You still going to get fcked at the airport next time you travel. Smh you dummies never learn.

[Sorbonne]

Gia was in the business for a very long time.

Almost two decades.

Much can happen during this time.

It was known that Gia was protected by the police.

But in 20 years many policemen come and go.

Maybe the bosses are different today.

Maybe the new chiefs of the police are more honest.

Maybe the bosses just wanted more money.

And Gia did not pay.

Ukrainians are known as greedy.

Or the bosses wanted to set a signal.

In any case, I was surprised that Gia has survived so long.

Prostitution is illegal in Ukraine.

There are mass raids in illegal brothels.

This is always shown in Local TV.

The customers can also be seen in such news broadcasts.

Often foreigners. Turks. Arab.

Therefore I recommend not to visit a brothel.

That can end badly.

By brothel you mean apartment, right? So you don't recommend apartments?

There are so many of them, and just going to one of them feels safe from police men, LOL.

[Kozerog]

1. Succumb to temptation and take her.
2. Continue daydreaming (...)

Thanks for reading and replying, helps me to sort out my thoughts / feelings.

I'm not that tempted. I sense there would be more sexual passion with this civilian than with my jewel (independent escort). But do I even care about passion anymore? I've spent an awful lot of time alone in nature these past 20 years to where I can't tolerate other people around me for long, though I do need occasional sex with a young woman to feel complete. One of my little weaknesses, along with my love of chocolate and cats. Fortunately, the jewel has gotten in the habit of napping for 90 minutes or so after sex, while I continuing petting her, so I get the four hours of her naked body next to me without having to talk so damned much. Better than a pet cat because I don't have to feed her or clean the litter box nor find someone else to take of her when I leave Kiev in August.

(...) The question is if you are ready emotionally.

Ready emotionally to have two women in my life? LOL. The one time in my life I tried managing a harem I nearly went crazy and finally got rid of them all for a while until I cooled down. That was when I had a much higher sex drive. No way I could do that now.

Speaking of sex drive, blood tests are fairly inexpensive here in Kiev. I got the "man over 40" package at Synevo for about 900 uah. They use German technology. Website in all 3 languages: Ukrainian, Russian, English. Results sent via email in the evening if blood drawn in the early morning (as it should be, especially for testosterone). Last year, result PDF was in English, this year it was in Ukrainian. Maybe English results still available but I needed to ask for that at time of payment. Anyway, everything very healthy, including testosterone at 26.5 nmol / L = 764 ng / dL, which is high for a man of 62. Still have morning erections and no problems getting erections with the jewel, though admittedly I do dose myself with 50 MG sildenafil two hours beforehand just in case. However, libido in the sense of wanting sex with women gone. Intercourse feels like a tiresome duty. Like morning calisthenics / yoga, something unpleasant but necessary for good health. It's holding the girl afterwards that I really look forwards to, just as I look forwards to corpse pose at the end of morning exercises. But I wouldn't enjoy just cuddling without preceding intercourse. I know readers here will shake their heads at all this. Old age is funny. Good news is older people tend to be constantly cheerful and happy, as I am, at least if in good physical health. Maybe loss of interest in sex the secret to their constant good mood.

[DramaFree11]

Agree, plus travel expenses way more then $300. Not to mention buying drinks, cover charge and the other scams. I have been saying this for years.

If that 300 dollars for one girl I think Ukraine is very overrated as in Spain France or Germany you can have a beautiful for less than 100.

And mongers from China or India are going to up the prices to 1000 dollars for the most average common girl maybe you could be like me thinking that way to much.

And when I read that some pay girl to be allowed to lick their pussies I start to lose hope in humanity.

[Crapau]

If that 300 dollars for one girl I think Ukraine is very overrated as in Spain France or Germany you can have a beautiful for less than 100.

And mongers from China or India are going to up the prices to 1000 dollars for the most average common girl maybe you could be like me thinking that way to much.

And when I read that some pay girl to be allowed to lick their pussies I start to lose hope in humanity LOL.