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  1. #18728
    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    One of the biggest disappointments in today's Kiev is the clubs where the really beautiful girls patronize will not let you in if you're a grown up man. Not unless you reserve a table and pay them stupid money.
    Yes fully agree. Seams like that they didn't'need our money. And we are not "cheep charlies". But I don't want to complain. I'm looking for alternatives.

  2. #18727

    McDonalds.

    Just to say in my experience not the one at Khrestatyk metro but the one by Ploshcha Lva Tolstoho metro. Been approached twice there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobebryant2000  [View Original Post]
    I assume they must be talking about the McDonalds on Khreschatyk street next to the metro entrance. I have been in this place hundreds of times, never have been approached once, never had any girl other than an employee give me any sort of look. I'm sure if you want to approach students and attempt to get numbers, perhaps it's possible but it's certainly not a prime pickup spot in my opinion. The metro entrance and exit next door is a high foot traffic area and you may have a good chance to attempt to meet women and get numbers but I've never just been randomly approached by anyone other than street beggars looking for money.

  3. #18726

    3 years since last time

    I havn't been in Kiev for 3 years. At that time I used Mamba to get my score. The site is not the same, and VK seems dead. Where is the new place to hunt? My trip is planed after Christmas so I have good time.

    Best regards.

    OwaRunner.

  4. #18725
    Quote Originally Posted by Kater100  [View Original Post]
    The Bar in the Arena and Chi they didn't let us in (face control)..
    One of the biggest disappointments in today's Kiev is the clubs where the really beautiful girls patronize will not let you in if you're a grown up man. Not unless you reserve a table and pay them stupid money.

  5. #18724
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    You are a freshman in Kiev. You do not know the "good, old" times. At that time it was possible to get a real 9 or 10. For small change ($ 100 and less). At that time it was possible to find a top woman without any financial interests without any problems. Today there are too many sex tourists. Especially from the Arab countries and Turkey. These people are ready to pay a lot of money. Blind and without reason. Which has a negative impact on the market. In my country it is no problem to get a good working girl for 30-50 Euro. A hooker who costs at least 200+ dollars in Kiev. From my side there is no reason to go to Kiev as a sex tourist. I really have a "business" in Ukraine. Sex for money is not the reason for my trip. Just to fuck 20 women in a week I do not have to travel to Kiev. The cost of flights, apartments, restaurants are often neglected. And the time it takes to find a good hooker. Wrong photos on the internet. Rip off in strip clubs. Negotiate the price. Women you wait for and do not come. For comparison: In Thailand (Pattaya, Bangkok) there are thousands of women you can see and take away immediately. You are spoiled for choice. In nudist clubs you can have 10 women in one night. Good women. And at a significantly better price than in Kiev.

    Everything depends on the point of view. Travel to Kiev to save money? This works only if a hooker in your country is very expensive. Or there are few good hookers. As in Arab countries or Turkey. In Kiev you may still have the illusion of finding a semi-pro hooker. Not more. Kiev lives today only from the memory of the good old days. From the old reports on the internet. Of the rumors of the past years. That all Ukrainians are hookers. And Kiev lives on the wet dreams of millions of men.

    That there are no hookers in Kiev is not true. But the quality and number of hookers goes down significantly. Compared with the crisis 2014/2015 and above all with the time 10 or 20 years ago. But prices are rising. Significant. Today 200 dollars. 4 years ago $ 50. For the same hookers.
    Dear misterxxx, Hello all.

    This is correct. I'm "freshman in Kiev" and I'm "not know the "good, old" times"! And I'm also notice the guys from Turkey and from the arab country in the clubs and the the negative impact. I'm agree and I'm also not happy about it!

    It doesn't make sense to mourn the old days. We should talk about what's going on now. As soon as someone talks about his experiences today, something about the old times is told immediately. We shouldn't be treating each other like this.

    Please do not compare to Thailand. They play in a different league and they are not in Europe. I was in Pattaya and know about the prices and the girls. And by the way when you look in some Pattaya Forum you find also people who are talking about "the good old times".

    You say "In my country it is no problem to get a good working girl for 30-50 Euro" Please told us from which country are you talking? Is it in Europe?

    Does anyone have a suggestion where it's better in Europe? Where you can find good WG in clubs and bars for a better price? I am looking forward to finding some suggestions.

  6. #18723

    So true

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    You are a freshman in Kiev. You do not know the "good, old" times. At that time it was possible to get a real 9 or 10. For small change ($ 100 and less). At that time it was possible to find a top woman without any financial interests without any problems. Today there are too many sex tourists. Especially from the Arab countries and Turkey. These people are ready to pay a lot of money. Blind and without reason. Which has a negative impact on the market. In my country it is no problem to get a good working girl for 30-50 Euro. A hooker who costs at least 200+ dollars in Kiev. From my side there is no reason to go to Kiev as a sex tourist. I really have a "business" in Ukraine. Sex for money is not the reason for my trip. Just to fuck 20 women in a week I do not have to travel to Kiev. The cost of flights, apartments, restaurants are often neglected. And the time it takes to find a good hooker. Wrong photos on the internet. Rip off in strip clubs. Negotiate the price. Women you wait for and do not come. For comparison: In Thailand (Pattaya, Bangkok) there are thousands of women you can see and take away immediately. You are spoiled for choice. In nudist clubs you can have 10 women in one night. Good women. And at a significantly better price than in Kiev.

    Everything depends on the point of view. Travel to Kiev to save money? This works only if a hooker in your country is very expensive. Or there are few good hookers. As in Arab countries or Turkey. In Kiev you may still have the illusion of finding a semi-pro hooker. Not more. Kiev lives today only from the memory of the good old days. From the old reports on the internet. Of the rumors of the past years. That all Ukrainians are hookers. And Kiev lives on the wet dreams of millions of men.

    That there are no hookers in Kiev is not true. But the quality and number of hookers goes down significantly. Compared with the crisis 2014/2015 and above all with the time 10 or 20 years ago. But prices are rising. Significant. Today 200 dollars. 4 years ago $ 50. For the same hookers.
    I totally agree with this report, close to the reality. I love the part: "Women you wait for and do not come". And this one too " That all Ukrainians are hookers". So many guys think that way, so many of them are not hookers.

  7. #18722

    Use Tinder.

    Get a tinder premium, passport to Kiev and swipe everything right. You will end up with someone good.

    Quote Originally Posted by George6969  [View Original Post]
    I am coming to the Ukraine since many years and still thinking of the good old River Palace Times and even earlier the good old 111 in Hotel Lybid. Ever since my mongering experiences in Kiev had been bad. I tried Avalon, now closed, Shooters, bad experiences, Skybar, normally empty and Buddha Bar, empty or overpriced. I even had been to Rio.

    I try to avoid booking through the Web and now will go back to Kiev more often.

    Maybe some fellows can provide me with some updated information.

    Is there a new Club / Bar which is new and woks solidly and is maybe not crowded but not empty..

  8. #18721
    Love, your post, so true. Guys just do not want to deal with the reality of Kiev and try to keep this illusion alive. There are T. Dudes everywhere, more then willing to pay Top Dollar. Most do not care about rules and have just ruined the city One thing that is not talked about is these guys save up thee money for the whole year and go crazy in Kiev for a weekend or few days. Also, 3-4 guys will get an apartment outside the center, eat at home, so they are living very cheap, very smart, not sure I would want that type of trip, but I must give them credit.

  9. #18720
    Quote Originally Posted by George6969  [View Original Post]
    I am coming to the Ukraine since many years and still thinking of the good old River Palace Times and even earlier the good old 111 in Hotel Lybid. Ever since my mongering experiences in Kiev had been bad. I tried Avalon, now closed, Shooters, bad experiences, Skybar, normally empty and Buddha Bar, empty or overpriced. I even had been to Rio.

    I try to avoid booking through the Web and now will go back to Kiev more often.

    Maybe some fellows can provide me with some updated information.

    Is there a new Club / Bar which is new and woks solidly and is maybe not crowded but not empty.

    Which Internet Ladies can be recommended by you, I like MILF types of Lady, english speaking, ideally A level service, but this is not a necessity.

    Thank you in advance.
    Hi,

    I tried Buddha bar for few nights only couple of ladies on the bar stools. I took one lady one night. I tried online and one girl confirmed if she does not look like her photo, I can send her back without even taxi money. She was exactly like photo and very GFE experience. I can share her details on Monday if you PM me. Best wishes for your Kiev Trip.

  10. #18719
    Quote Originally Posted by Kater100  [View Original Post]
    In some posts here I read some "negative vibes" about Kiev. I can't confirm this! Kiev is for me a good place for mongering in Europe.
    You are a freshman in Kiev. You do not know the "good, old" times. At that time it was possible to get a real 9 or 10. For small change ($ 100 and less). At that time it was possible to find a top woman without any financial interests without any problems. Today there are too many sex tourists. Especially from the Arab countries and Turkey. These people are ready to pay a lot of money. Blind and without reason. Which has a negative impact on the market. In my country it is no problem to get a good working girl for 30-50 Euro. A hooker who costs at least 200+ dollars in Kiev. From my side there is no reason to go to Kiev as a sex tourist. I really have a "business" in Ukraine. Sex for money is not the reason for my trip. Just to fuck 20 women in a week I do not have to travel to Kiev. The cost of flights, apartments, restaurants are often neglected. And the time it takes to find a good hooker. Wrong photos on the internet. Rip off in strip clubs. Negotiate the price. Women you wait for and do not come. For comparison: In Thailand (Pattaya, Bangkok) there are thousands of women you can see and take away immediately. You are spoiled for choice. In nudist clubs you can have 10 women in one night. Good women. And at a significantly better price than in Kiev.

    Everything depends on the point of view. Travel to Kiev to save money? This works only if a hooker in your country is very expensive. Or there are few good hookers. As in Arab countries or Turkey. In Kiev you may still have the illusion of finding a semi-pro hooker. Not more. Kiev lives today only from the memory of the good old days. From the old reports on the internet. Of the rumors of the past years. That all Ukrainians are hookers. And Kiev lives on the wet dreams of millions of men.

    That there are no hookers in Kiev is not true. But the quality and number of hookers goes down significantly. Compared with the crisis 2014/2015 and above all with the time 10 or 20 years ago. But prices are rising. Significant. Today 200 dollars. 4 years ago $ 50. For the same hookers.

  11. #18718
    Night Clubs in Kiev are terrible, there are very few positive reports about the night clubs. There are other sites that hype the Kiev Night Life, but this is total be. S. And over hyped. There is almost zero night life in Kiev.

  12. #18717
    Nice Report, 8's at C. Club highly unlikely low end place. 5-7's. Average place, but there are people there 7 days a week.

  13. #18716
    Quote Originally Posted by George6969  [View Original Post]
    I am coming to the Ukraine since many years and still thinking of the good old River Palace Times and even earlier the good old 111 in Hotel Lybid. Ever since my mongering experiences in Kiev had been bad. I tried Avalon, now closed, Shooters, bad experiences, Skybar, normally empty and Buddha Bar, empty or overpriced. I even had been to Rio.

    I try to avoid booking through the Web and now will go back to Kiev more often.

    Maybe some fellows can provide me with some updated information.

    Is there a new Club / Bar which is new and woks solidly and is maybe not crowded but not empty.

    Which Internet Ladies can be recommended by you, I like MILF types of Lady, english speaking, ideally A level service, but this is not a necessity.

    Thank you in advance.
    Hello George, Hello all.

    I was this summer (end of August) in Kiev. I can recommend Caribbean Club. From my point of view this is a good place for mongering. Of course you find not 10 in there. But with some luck you can find some decent 7 or 8.

    I also tested Buddha Bar but it was empty. I spotted some WG at the bar. But since the entry is free I think you can have a look in it. It is a nice bar but I think to big for the amount of people in there. So you have always the feeling it is empty.

    The Bar in the Arena and Chi they didn't let us in (face control).

    Unfortunately I didn't do any daygame. But when I walk around I spotted some nice girls. Maybe next time. On other sites I read that it is possible to approach girls, Also some semi pros looking for customer there. Best area is Khreschatyk Street and around the Arena.

    Online Game (Tinder and Mamba) works also good in Kiev. I would recommend to do your Homework 1 week before you flight to Kiev.

    Price are varied. In the clubs the girls mostly asked for 100-200 EUR. It is possible to pull a girl for 100 EUR. Online between 2000 - 3000 UAH. All depends on you negotiate skills.

    In some posts here I read some "negative vibes" about Kiev. I can't confirm this! Kiev is for me a good place for mongering in Europe.

  14. #18715
    Quote Originally Posted by Wingwang  [View Original Post]
    Since you mentioned "Kreshiatik Street is the absolutely worst place to find girls", what would you recommendation? It may be a time consuming and hit & miss.
    For prostitutes I have no advice, I don't know. But people in this forum say that the clubs are good and the internet websites. But when I hear about prices (100+ $ per hour) I would be resistant. For such high amounts you can have sex working girls at home.

    When it comes to normal girls, I can find them virtually anywhere in Ukraine, but hardly in Kreshiatik street.

  15. #18714
    Yes, K. Street is the worse. There further you get away form K. Street the better experience you will have, and I was bet good money that you might have a shot at more attractive girls. K Street is done and has been done for several years.

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