Kyiv

[Riina]

Mamba semi pros won't meet you unless they find you attractive. I'll guess about 90 per cent of non Russian speaking over forty foreigners will not qualify.

[Funbow]

Hi JonTom,

We have similar taste. I find that just having sex without a little bit of emotional connection is, as someone put it elegantly, masturbating with a pussy.

Now do you mind sharing what local agent you used? I'm very interested in such arrangement but can't seem to find a way to do it.

[AnthonySun1996]

JonTom,

Perhaps you are right mate. But the problem is that I actually have little choice rather than being overcharged. I have limited sources of 9's in Kiev so I have to pay some extra to keep my current ones. Besides I'm not good at bargaining with my local agents.

Regarding your experience, what are your standards when you are talking about 10's? To me 10 means almost perfect, and haven't seen a 10 in Kiev's sex market. So I'm happy with a 9. And how did you manage to find a 10? It would be great if you could share her contact to me, since you think 500 usd a day is too high. Cheers.

Happy hunting & stay safe.

[AnthonySun1996]

Thats about 3737 EUR or 1246 EUR per day. Plus additional expenses for going out. From point of view I would never ever pay this even if I have the money.

On our last trip a friend from me take a 9 with him for 200 and she stay till next day. He invite her to lunch after and then she go.

Forgot to mention that also included in the price is that I could live in her apartment and she would cook for me.

I know I m being overcharged but am curious to what extent I'm being overcharged. I'm a foreigner with limited Russian language skills after all, so some overcharges are expected.

[JonTom]

From my experience 120,000 is not even close to reasonable. My personal taste is to find a woman I enjoy and have a connection with and then spend anywhere from one to multiple days with them. The most I have paid for a woman from Kiev is USD $1000 for 4 days / 3 night down to $200/ day. I recently had a solid 10 offer to stay with me for $500/ day which I felt was too much and declined. There are many options available for much less than this offer IMHO. I would say you're definitely being overcharged.

[pQUOTE=AnthonySun1996;2237529]Long time no see gents.

I was offered through my local agent that a girl I have met before would accompany me for whole 3 days plus on night at a charge of 120,000 grivnas. The girl I'm talking about is a solid 9 by my standards. Blonde, 5'11', aesthetically sized boobs, long legs, attractive body. 120,000 grv is not a great deal for me, but I just want to know if it is a fair price, or I'm being overcharged.

BTW my previous account had been invalidated for unknown reasons so I registered a new one with the same username. Any ideas why it happened? QUOTE].

[Kater100]

Long time no see gents.

I was offered through my local agent that a girl I have met before would accompany me for whole 3 days plus on night at a charge of 120,000 grivnas. The girl I'm talking about is a solid 9 by my standards. Blonde, 5'11', aesthetically sized boobs, long legs, attractive body. 120,000 grv is not a great deal for me, but I just want to know if it is a fair price, or I'm being overcharged.

BTW my previous account had been invalidated for unknown reasons so I registered a new one with the same username. Any ideas why it happened?

Thats about 3737 EUR or 1246 EUR per day. Plus additional expenses for going out. From point of view I would never ever pay this even if I have the money.

On our last trip a friend from me take a 9 with him for 200 and she stay till next day. He invite her to lunch after and then she go.

[AnthonySun1996]

Long time no see gents.

I was offered through my local agent that a girl I have met before would accompany me for whole 3 days plus on night at a charge of 120,000 grivnas. The girl I'm talking about is a solid 9 by my standards. Blonde, 5'11', aesthetically sized boobs, long legs, attractive body. 120,000 grv is not a great deal for me, but I just want to know if it is a fair price, or I'm being overcharged.

BTW my previous account had been invalidated for unknown reasons so I registered a new one with the same username. Any ideas why it happened?

[Volpone]

Personally I use Mamba. Spend sometime getting to know girls. I have met some nice girls, spent some time with them then move on.

I try to get a girl at somewhere near 1000 UAH or $35 per hour for a couple of hours, sometimes that has gone up to 4 hours depending on girl. So $17 or 500 uah per hour bloody good price / time.

As for the good old days, well forget the comments today is now.

You could get a good price in any city years ago, now expensive.

When I goto Kiev, I get about 10 telephone numbers then use just 5.

That way I do not feel I missed out.

You can always log onto Mamba and get someone today for good price, last time sweet 19 yo for 1000 uah per hour, she probably would come for less but that is my goal.

From looking on Mamba to dipping my wick one and a half hours.

I do not want to pay club prices, $300 for a shag way too much, if I can have half a dozen girls for $70 a pop over a say three days I am happy.

Well my two pennies worth.

After reading your post about Mamba, I hope that nobody has booked a flight, thinking of getting pretty non-pro girls from Mamba by paying 1000 uah. This traveler would be very disapointed to get 4 or 5 on a beauty scale. Furthermore nearly no girl agree with that price for 1 hour.

After two weeks sending messages, last year I found 3 of them that agreed for that price. I took none of them, because there were too ugly or not good enough for me.

This year, after spending more than 1 month in Kiev, I found 2 of them that agreed for 1000 UAH, but again, less than average, so I didn't take them. I was able to get some girls around 1500 UAH that were average or a bit more. So you might expect to pay at least around 1500 UAH for 1 hour and up if you want at least a 6 and more.

So when someone writes that 10 non-pros girls from Mamba agreed to come to his flat for 1000 UAH for 1 hour, it's just a fake news, a wrong information. Except, maybe if he is really good looking on his pictures. As we deal with non-pros, they may be disposed to meet a good looking guy instead of some others not so handsome or older.

[JohnnyW]

I'm up for sharing the legit and good girls we find on Kiev.

https://t.me/joinchat/HNPXAw7tQXsDc-RTFYGsIQ is a channel for sharing information.

Good idea!

Tomorrow I am in Kiev again. A few things change last years.

Independent girls are difficult to find. But not impossible.

You need some time for it.

Clubs still lots of possibilities. Caribbean Club is my favorite. Sorry Babushka, Coyote Ugly and Forsage (not for old man) is good too. But last 3 clubs not many pro girls. You have to search. But an expert will see them.

Students want some extra money too. But be kind to them and maybe they come with you.

Anyone any advice on other clubs? What about the new d'lux and skybar? Or other?

[SoberSoul]

It took almost three weeks for someone to ask. If it was any other thread.

LOL, actually I signed up to respond to your post. Overall it is interesting. By the way I am residing in Kyiv since May and I have some goodies too. We can exchange on the PM.

[Riina]

The way you use names of the girls is nice. But would you mind sharing their numbers, if you have any..

It took almost three weeks for someone to ask. If it was any other thread.

[Gluckstaler]

Personally I use Mamba. Spend sometime getting to know girls. I have met some nice girls, spent some time with them then move on.

I try to get a girl at somewhere near 1000 UAH or $35 per hour for a couple of hours, sometimes that has gone up to 4 hours depending on girl. So $17 or 500 uah per hour bloody good price / time.

As for the good old days, well forget the comments today is now.

You could get a good price in any city years ago, now expensive.

When I goto Kiev, I get about 10 telephone numbers then use just 5.

That way I do not feel I missed out..

Based on what I read here, I used Mamba to approach girls. If you're not yet in Kiev you need to buy the premium "VIP" option (6 $) to search for them. The good thing about Mamba is that there is much less "fake" there. Ukrainian photographers have a very distinctive well-lit, mise-en-scene style, if the girl also has photos made by herself, you can be certain that's her. And I can tell you that's almost 100% of the profiles.

Now the bad parts:

1. Those girls are quite choosy. Expect to have a 50% reply rate leading to a rate of 25% of exchanging telephone numbers. So do your research at least one week before arrival.

2. I don't know when Crompton was last in Kiev, prices start with 100 $/3000 UAH for 2 h for a 8-9/10, 150 $ for a 9-10/10 up to 250 $ for the Emilia Clarke look-alike. Now if a 8-9 asks you for 150 $ you can negotiate her down to 100 $, but the 9-10+ will not engage in any negotiation whatsoever. Also they might have encountered so many weirdos that they initially will not agree to come for more than 2 h. The good thing is that all of them agree to kiss you without asking for extra.

3. I do have to admit that I didn't contact any girl with looks below an 8, and that those girls could be as cheap as Crompton describes, but it seems to me that Turks and Arabs are inflating prices here.

I will arrive in Kiev on Thursday for a long weekend. What are bars / clubs which you would recommend to go to?

[DramaFree11]

One of the biggest disappointments in today's Kiev is the clubs where the really beautiful girls patronize will not let you in if you're a grown up man. Not unless you reserve a table and pay them stupid money.

Guys it is easy just tip the Doorman a few buck, you just have to play the game. (If you can pay $200, plus and hour, at GIA I am sure you can afford $2-5, it goes a long ways), I have been to both places over 50 times. The Bar always has people, buy very small. Definitely not high end, but for Kiev is above average. When I was going there a lot thee was not even a Doorman, so I do not know how you could not get in.

Famous is empty 90% of the time, fun place, and beautiful, very few single girls, Friday's are good, Saturdays usually empty, and the rest of the week there is nobody there. You are not missing much.

[SoberSoul]

The trick is that I use a reliable agent. I go to apartments

Tanya, Emma, Ilona from apartments are beautiful. I saw Tanya twice. Buddy saw Nastia, petite spinner blonde who rocked it for him.

What is this trick, could you elaborate more on this please. It almost sounds as if apartments is a brand name of an agency or club LOL.

The way you use names of the girls is nice. But would you mind sharing their numbers, if you have any.

Cheers.

[Crompton]

Dear misterxxx, Hello all.

This is correct. I'm "freshman in Kiev" and I'm "not know the "good, old" times"! And I'm also notice the guys from Turkey and from the arab country in the clubs and the the negative impact. I'm agree and I'm also not happy about it!

It doesn't make sense to mourn the old days. We should talk about what's going on now. As soon as someone talks about his experiences today, something about the old times is told immediately. We shouldn't be treating each other like this.

Please do not compare to Thailand. They play in a different league and they are not in Europe. I was in Pattaya and know about the prices and the girls. And by the way when you look in some Pattaya Forum you find also people who are talking about "the good old times"..

Personally I use Mamba. Spend sometime getting to know girls. I have met some nice girls, spent some time with them then move on.

I try to get a girl at somewhere near 1000 UAH or $35 per hour for a couple of hours, sometimes that has gone up to 4 hours depending on girl. So $17 or 500 uah per hour bloody good price / time.

As for the good old days, well forget the comments today is now.

You could get a good price in any city years ago, now expensive.

When I goto Kiev, I get about 10 telephone numbers then use just 5.

That way I do not feel I missed out.

You can always log onto Mamba and get someone today for good price, last time sweet 19 yo for 1000 uah per hour, she probably would come for less but that is my goal.

From looking on Mamba to dipping my wick one and a half hours.

I do not want to pay club prices, $300 for a shag way too much, if I can have half a dozen girls for $70 a pop over a say three days I am happy.

Well my two pennies worth.