Kyiv

[Riina]

I recently mentioned a you tube guy that lives in Ukraine. I watched a recent video where he talks about two 19 year olds that shared deeply personal shit with him. There's only one way teens would open up like that to a grown up man.

[AntonySun1996]

I did once meet a girl from Seeking.com in Kiev. Success at first attempt. She was reasonably attractive. Her appearance matched her photos, with small variances. We did a G&M in a restaurant, agreed upon a ppm of 200 usd, and went to a hotel room to have some fun. This didn't lead to a long term sugar relationship though, as I already had a girlfriend and I realized that I still preferred my own girl.

This experience however gave me the impression that there are fewer fake profiles on Seeking than on other sites like mamba. I could be wrong, of course, since my sample size was too small. Again, just my personal experience. Others have encountered fakes from that site. There are even pretentious women who expect you to pay them for spending time with you (without having sex). Just maintain your professional skepticism and be prepared for all sorts of situations. And don't get frustrated by unpleasant experiences. You have to kiss a thousand toads to find a princess. Finding a gem in Kiev requires p.

[Riina]

What do you mean by rubs?.

Erotic massage wherever you can find it.

Any website with 1000's of young girls looking for sponsors?

Ukrainian girls have a worldwide market. Any new cutie that creates a profile will have hundreds of messages daily. Grab your track pants and hunt down a sweet thing that wants to give you a hand job. That's what I did in my US city with some success.

When I was there I also found the women extremely flirty and responsive to me.

You sure you were in Ukraine?

So I will be hitting on girls everywhere.

That's the attitude amigo.

[Kozerog]

Any website with 1000's of young girls looking for sponsors?

When I was there I also found the women extremely flirty and responsive to me.

So I will be hitting on girls everywhere.

Not 1000's, but Mamba has some. Pay for the premium version (like $5/month) to enable advanced features: set "willing to be sponsor" tag, search for "seeking sponsor" tag.

But meeting girls in real life is much better.

Or you can convert a professional into a sort of sugar baby by simply seeing her regularly, which is what I did.

[Bill1963]

I can tell you SA is worthless in Ukraine. If I moved to Kiev, I would search out rubs by college hotties.

What do you mean by rubs?

And I know SA is garbage in Ukr.

Any website with 1000's of young girls looking for sponsors?

When I was there I also found the women extremely flirty and responsive to me.

So I will be hitting on girls everywhere.

[Riina]

I like 2 to 4 sugarbabies at a time.

So looking for websites where I can find these young girls before they become pros.

I don't fuck professionals anymore.

I can tell you SA is worthless in Ukraine. If I moved to Kiev, I would search out rubs by college hotties.

[Bill1963]

Hey guys,

I been to Kiev and Odessa before and loved it.

I been thinking of renting and possibly eventually buying a condo in Kiev.

I been playing with sugarbabies off seeking arrangements mostly the last 4 yrs in North America.

I used to monger a lot (fucked over 1000 pros) but its not my style anymore.

Even though the sugar daddy life is more expensive and time consuming to get laid, I enjoy it much more.

What websites in Ukraine can I use to meet very young ladies 18 to 25 yrs old to sponsor and have ongoing short term 1 to 3 month arrangements.

I found here in North America once the sugar baby gets too comfortable with you, they get more greedy and expect more, and want you to solve all their problems especially when they realize I have much more money than them (its funny how women love to suck up money like a vacuum cleaner and spend, and never think of tomorrow), plus I get bored of a woman after a few months anyways.

BUT The first 10 fucks can be epic.

Then time to dump and find another.

I like 2 to 4 sugarbabies at a time.

So looking for websites where I can find these young girls before they become pros.

I don't fuck professionals anymore.

[Vocker]

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[Riina]

Location: Boss Agency, Kiev.

A link would help.

[Member #4722]

Hi everyone,

This is not a trip report per se, but rather, a pre-trip report. In essence, I'm trying to do the legwork before hand and could use some last minute advice on what I can do increase the odds of a successful trip.

Mamba: I've been reviewing the site for last 7 days and see to have collected a list of contacts of about 10 contacts. But I'm still a little dubious of this approach. Some have photos blurred and won't unlock them, the ones that do share look like hardened "tattooed" up, long in the biz types. One or two seem more "normal" and are probably freelancers or more occasional practitioners. I'll try luck here. But again, it's sight unseen.

E* vc: this seems like a viable backup plan, though it's clear that they price / value ratio is potentially a bit off.

I contacted a few contacts via Telegram; one directed me to iwa*t. Biz but this just looks like a collection of fake pics. But does anyone have any experience with agency who can at least vouch for the quality of what they do send over?

Can anyone recommend which bars have the highest chance of success re Pro pick-up? (Caribbean, Shooters, Skybar, Alchemist, etc?

Any other agencies or Prague-style privats worth contacting?

10 contacts on Mamba isn't nearly enough. You will probably want twice that. I save contacts from there for at least a month and email 50+ ladies before my trip to get a list of about 10 or so solid possible dates. Then I chose the best ones (good communication, matching pics on WhatsApp). Caribbean Club is my go to. I haven't even bothered with Shooters my last two trips since I never had any luck there and the staff is always rude.

[PublicInterest]

Hi everyone,

This is not a trip report per se, but rather, a pre-trip report. In essence, I'm trying to do the legwork before hand and could use some last minute advice on what I can do increase the odds of a successful trip.

Mamba: I've been reviewing the site for last 7 days and see to have collected a list of contacts of about 10 contacts. But I'm still a little dubious of this approach. Some have photos blurred and won't unlock them, the ones that do share look like hardened "tattooed" up, long in the biz types. One or two seem more "normal" and are probably freelancers or more occasional practitioners. I'll try luck here. But again, it's sight unseen.

E* vc: this seems like a viable backup plan, though it's clear that they price / value ratio is potentially a bit off.

I contacted a few contacts via Telegram; one directed me to iwa*t. Biz but this just looks like a collection of fake pics. But does anyone have any experience with agency who can at least vouch for the quality of what they do send over?

Can anyone recommend which bars have the highest chance of success re Pro pick-up? (Caribbean, Shooters, Skybar, Alchemist, etc?

Any other agencies or Prague-style privats worth contacting?

[PublicInterest]

Is there a phone number or website for this agency. Web search just comes up with an obscure photo on pu&terlink. Co. Uk. Is that the one? Thanks!

Date of session: Thursday January.

Location: Boss Agency, Kiev.

Name: Sonya.

Face: 9.

Body: 8.

Skill: 8.

Service: 9.

Estimated age of the girl and / or actual age: 19.

Price: 1300 UAH / 1 hour.

Language: Russian.

Pros: Good service and perfect body.

Cons: You need to pay a big amount for every service.

I've been in Kiev for 1 month, decided to relax with somebody..

[PhotoSlider]

Kiev is a city that I think one needs to experience twice. Go there once to get a good idea on how the hobby operates there. You can read the forums all you want, but nothing gives you a sense of things like the actual battle experience. Then, when you go back the second time, you have a much higher level of confidence, you know what works and what doesn't -- what to say, who to contact, how to operate basically. When I do return (not "if," it is "when") I will be much more confident and probably have an even better time.

Yes, it is very addictive.

Why experience Kiev only twice? It keeps changing, but never stops surprising me with great girls.

And yes, reading Forums, emails, chats is just a lifeless reflection in the mirror. Getting real action with Ukrainian females in flesh and blood is the ultimate truth.

[Vocker]

Date of session: Thursday January.

Location: Boss Agency, Kiev.

Name: Sonya.

Face: 9.

Body: 8.

Skill: 8.

Service: 9.

Estimated age of the girl and / or actual age: 19.

Price: 1300 UAH / 1 hour.

Language: Russian.

Pros: Good service and perfect body.

Cons: You need to pay a big amount for every service.

I've been in Kiev for 1 month, decided to relax with somebody.

Quick search in Google lead me to a local escort agency, small talk with operator and I went to an address.

Brothel locates in 4-room flat, before we started I had to choose from 5 girls, some of them were old, some young, my choice was big-breast Sonya.

We went to a shower, I wasn't allowed to wash her.

After shower she started doing blowjob, it was very good, as I love it, sloppy and hands free.

Then we had sex. She took over, and was on me.

There were some great moves from here, which I didn't expect, so I came pretty quickly.

When laying relaxed together after the he we had some small talk and she told me she just started working here for 3 months after she had been a pole dancer in a club for more then 2 years.

This explains her good moves.

[ASUDevil1]

AFAIK Lviv is a great city for a couple of days of sight seeing, and totally useless for our hobby.

Indeed, that is what my research is leading me to conclude.

I forgot to add one thing about my opinion on Kiev. For one thing, I am already wanting to go back, so that should say something about it being a desirable location.

Kiev is a city that I think one needs to experience twice. Go there once to get a good idea on how the hobby operates there. You can read the forums all you want, but nothing gives you a sense of things like the actual battle experience. Then, when you go back the second time, you have a much higher level of confidence, you know what works and what doesn't -- what to say, who to contact, how to operate basically. When I do return (not "if," it is "when") I will be much more confident and probably have an even better time.