Kyiv

[VinDici]

...there are good prices both for Hotel Ukraina, and Premier Rus:
Which hotel is more "girlfriendly" ?

Unless you want to make use of the concierge, I would skip Hotels entirely and go for a luxury apartment from Dobovo (AirBNB type site in UA). You'll not have a problem bringing girls in, and you'll get a much nicer place to stay in for the same amount of cash, a decent sized fridge for a change and no judgement from reception when you're bringing in girl after girl, day after day, night after night.

[Reiner Otto]

Will be in Kiev 10-June, for a few days only. As there are good prices both for Hotel Ukraina, and Premier Rus:

Where are more or better girls directly in the house to be found? Which hotel is more "girlfriendly" ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

[YummyPL]

out of the Schengen but in the EU.

You can't be in the UK if you are easily importing Ukrainian girls, so you have greatly reduced the possibilities of where you are.

The weather was beautiful in Kiev today. Girls in sexy outfits all around. Spent much of the weekend with my sonsorette, fucked a regular this morning, and am fucking a new girl claiming to be 18 tomorrow morning if she shows up, will be with my sponsorette again on Wednesday, and a very hot 19 year old emerging regular on Thursday. Have 3 other new girls in the hopper for when I have time. Life is good.

As always, I am probably spending more than I have to but my value for the dollar is better than anywhere else I have mongered in Europe.

[NorskKing]

Why do you think it's risky? I went last last year and I'm leaving again in the new few weeks for a shorter trip. Lockdown is over and the clubs are open. Not sure I'd take the "talent must be desperate" attitude with me but to each his own. In my experience, getting someone to give you the goods regularly and of their own free will is directly proportional to your first impression and trying to get them for the least amount of cost is a major downer to top talent.

Aside from that, your plan is sound but if you want to score someone from showaround you need to start working on her now. The nice thing (only nice thing) about clubs and parlors is that they're mostly a sure thing.

Thank you for your genuine reply. I was considering risk in terms of Covid asked not crime or being cheated. I have very pleasant experiences there and I can manage to squeeze out few good experiences this time too. I agree that the expectation are relative to first experiences and I think if we are not cheap and balance the respect of girls vs expectations out of meeting and money paid, Then most of the time we get what were expect.

Regarding show around girls, I agree that it involves game and patience and is not a sure thing. That is three reason I added this among other sure things just to spice up three trip.

[FilthyBeaver]

Why do you think it's risky? I went last last year and I'm leaving again in the new few weeks for a shorter trip. Lockdown is over and the clubs are open. Not sure I'd take the "talent must be desperate" attitude with me but to each his own. In my experience, getting someone to give you the goods regularly and of their own free will is directly proportional to your first impression and trying to get them for the least amount of cost is a major downer to top talent.

Aside from that, your plan is sound but if you want to score someone from showaround you need to start working on her now. The nice thing (only nice thing) about clubs and parlors is that they're mostly a sure thing.

I have flights reserved for end of may trip. I know that it sounds risky but it has been more than a year that I am looking to visit there and cancelled my flights so many times. I'm not cancelling this time. Main focus will be showaound, massage parlors and stripclubs. I am ok too come back and quarantine in Norway if that is what is needed.

I believe that talent is Ukraine must be desperate. Also I'm confident that most of them are now stuck in Ukraine looking for any opportunity wish me good health. I'll try to be as safe as it practilly possible in this visit.

[Sorbonne]

Does anybody know if morning after pill is readily available in Kiev?

[NorskKing]

I have flights reserved for end of may trip. I know that it sounds risky but it has been more than a year that I am looking to visit there and cancelled my flights so many times. I'm not cancelling this time. Main focus will be showaound, massage parlors and stripclubs. I am ok too come back and quarantine in Norway if that is what is needed.

I believe that talent is Ukraine must be desperate. Also I'm confident that most of them are now stuck in Ukraine looking for any opportunity wish me good health. I'll try to be as safe as it practilly possible in this visit.

[Sorbonne]

By now I have successfully imported 2 Kiev regulars to the country of my 3-month residency out of the Schengen but in the EU.

I also paid for the PCR tests for them to come into my country and for them to go back into Ukraine.

I will also be fully vaccinated with Pfizer vaccines by the end of May. But I am still not sure if I want to go back to Ukraine straight away. There will still be 10 % chances for me to catch covid-19 and less chances in ending up in hospitals in Ukraine, which is the last thing I want, especially when I don't speak much of Russian or Ukrainian.

I saw a chart on BBC that lists which country will be back to normal economically in what year. According to this chart, Ukraine will be back to normal in early 2023.

Sorry, but I'd rather keep my privacy private and would rather not reveal where I am.

[Kozerog]

Police busted one of the Kyiv agencies. No mention of customers arrested.

https://korrespondent.net/city/kiev/...uppu-sutenerov

https://kyiv.npu.gov.ua/news/novini/...ualnix-poslug/

[VinDici]

What are the prices if you don't main me asking?

The link is literally below your post, did you open it and try it?

[FilthyBeaver]

After almost a year of waiting patiently, I was finally able to book a flight to Kiev. For the last week of May. I've read this thread a lot and have tested online searching for girls. I don't have the feel for 'the hunt' anymore, and I've learned in the last couple of years that two regulars with whom the sex is always great is way better than 10 new girls a year.

I don't speak nor understand any Russian or Ukraine, only English. So I realize that my chances for a good time in Kiev, apart the joys of regular tourism and eye-candy, are low.

I'll try to use some of the agencies through Telegram / Viber and put on an upgraded (paid) profile Badoo, Tinder and Mamba (maybe a month or couple of weeks before the trip) and hope for the best. I haven't ever used "apartments" or "salons", and since I don't know the language and have heard that it's quite a luck to find good looking girls there, I might not take the risk. I'd feel it a bit unsafe to go to such places and socially unease if I would have to decline the girls presented for me.

If the covid-situation gets better and the Kiev will be otherwise a good experience, I'll go for a Minsk-Kiev trip at the end of summer.

I don't know if it's customary here, but if someone feels like he could have any good connections to share with me, I'd be glad to know. If I understood correctly, getting the subscription for the forum will allow the sending and receiving of private messages.

This is not pointed at you desin, but I'm going to share what works for me.

I've been quite entertained by people complaining about scams and prices. Take two steps back and consider what you're asking of another person, probably young enough to be your daughter or at a minimum, much younger cousin. To complain about scams and prices is laughable, they have been around as long as the profession and they occur everywhere. When the events of your trip are all said and done it's success all comes down to your attitude and chemistry with the other person and to a very minor extent, what you spent.

Very experienced monger here all over the world. Very very picky, on a recent (first) trip to Kyiv I went to three strip clubs saw three girls I'd actually be willing to pay for and took one so say 3% of the 100 girls I saw (one was not available at any price, one I didn't ask, the last one changed my life) I'd actually be willing to spend time with outside the club. I don't waste my time with mobile apps or agencies, they all lie and they all show pictures that are heavily photoshoped or 5 years & 50 pounds old. No, I buy my girls the way I buy my groceries, in person. And also like my groceries I expect to have to put in a little time and effort to make the ingredients taste the way I like. And just like my cooking skills, sometimes I fuck up some perfectly fine ingredients.

The guys saying the girls are ugly are full of shit. Slavs are total babes, look at all the eastern European supermodels. They're either not willing to spend the money or can't afford talent. I also like them younger than 25. I'm late 40's, short, and not Caucasian. I've been told I'm attractive (by people I haven't paid) but I don't think I am.

Being an English speaker with no Russian or Ukrainian skills, I decided that I would hire a tour guide. I used Show around and found two guides, one from each gender. An attractive female because, hey you never know, and an experienced guy who could get me to the sure thing. The guys are out there and not difficult to find so if you are there for two weeks or less that is the single best piece of advice I can give.

I've got money but I try not to flash it, I've got a confidence because of it and I guess that's readable. Having a native doing my bidding is probably an attention contributor as well but I had a discussion before going in that we'd need to give the vibe that we're good friends and I think we were successful.

8 days into a 14 day trip we ended up at Harem (he wasn't with me all 8 days), my guide was getting frustrated that I had not taken anyone thus far in the 3 joints we had previously visited. A girl who spoke perfect English propositions me and I was interested but not sold because she didn't quite meet my standards. Lucky for me she left to do something for over an hour and in that time another girl caught my eye. She kept walking back and forth across the floor as advertisement but didn't smile and didn't make eye contact with anyone. The second I saw her I was ready to leave with her and I kept trying to make eye contact and get her attention but she either acted like she didn't see me or just plain ignored me. After 15 min of trying on my own I got my guide to get her attention. He's a tall good looking guy about 20 years younger than me. When she came over to talk to him her face lit up with a gorgeous smile, which wasn't at all surprising because I saw him get hit on more in the time I was with him than I've been hit on in my entire life. When he told her that I was the one who was interested her smile got even bigger and she had me. One massive problem, she spoke no English. I've had this problem almost everywhere, believe me, if they like you that will not be a problem. In fact it gives you something to giggle about when you're not banging and Google translate is amazingly reliable with Russian if you keep it at one or two sentences and try not to be too eloquent.

I'll leave out the rest but the following is probably very useful:

Harem has three fine prices if you want to take a girl, 2 HR, 3 HR, and all night (which is actually only 5 hrs). I don't remember the prices because the first night I took her for 2 hrs then extended it an hour when I knew there were fireworks. The extension was about as much as the 2 HR fine. Every night after that I took her for all night which was around $280. Manager told me I could indeed have her all night without any additional fine after my second day in a row so I'd get her at 8 and she'd leave around 5 or 6.

The girls will be penalized 10000 hyrivna and even fired for contacting customers outside of work. Incidentally, 2 hours after she told me this she came back to my hotel just after she was released from work and stayed until 6 pm that day when she had a nail appointment. She has since told me they fired a large number of girls in Feb for having contact with customers outside and would not be replacing them until summer. Business is slow because of covid so I'm sure that played a part as well.

The girls are on a set work schedule and cannot just call in sick, if they like you and you want to pay them outside of the club, they must provide a doctor's note or some proof as to why they missed a shift.

The girls are not required to do anything at any time other than show up. They can stay in the dressing room all night with no penalty, the club will not force them to dance, drink, or leave with customers. Obviously if they don't do these things they won't make money either.

The club is open during the lockdown. Tell the guard downstairs why you're there or look like a tourist and you'll get in.

I've been chatting with this girl almost daily for several months and I'm going back to see her at the end of this month. Since I've been able to give her notice to plan, she was able to take two days off (they wouldn't give her more because of short staffing) and we'll go to Odesa together for 4 days. After that I'll just buy her out of the club every night.

I'm under no delusions, again, I'm an experienced monger. I've only pulled a relationship off like this 3-4 times and I've been married for most of my mongering career. There's a hell of a lot of luck, your game, and to a lesser extent what you're will to spend. Money only gets you in the door, if you want fireworks you're going to need to put in some effort or shop around a lot until it falls in your lap.

BTW, she wouldn't let me give her anything extra while I was there, not even cab fare back to the club. I eventually got the point I was slipping 1 or 2 $100 bills in her purse when she went to the bathroom. For me that is a small price to pay to let her know I'm interested and to keep this party going on future visits. Since I left, I gave her $1000 to get into a modest apartment on her own because she was having roommate issues and I offered to replaced her cracked old cell phone with an iphone. For the experience, those are very small prices to pay.

[PhotoSlider]

I rode your message and got shocked about this, what could be the reason an escort begs you for bareback sex? Because she enjoys or she wants to make her a kid?

Since I didn't care for either, I didn't ask. Not just with her, but in general. I am past the age where I need kids, and I personally do not see any difference between covered or bareback, even oral. To each his own. My health is more important, so is the health of other girls that I may meet.

One might argue that DFK and DATY may still transmit. Yes, and AFAIK probability is much lower.

[Pav29]

What are the prices if you don't main me asking?

Why I did not like it:

The price of some girls. Even though some of them look super hot and have gorgeous bodies, they are often overpriced. So if you are on a tight budget, then OMG is not for you.

But! They have new girls every week, so if you follow them on Telegram, you can fing really cheap GEMs.

And my best advice on how to save on OMG in Kyiv. Invite a girl from another city. They are cheaper there and they are still super hot.

[VinDici]

Please provide a link to this OMG website if you could. Thanks.

http://ohmygirls.agency/

[HessenStud]

[Unannotated link deleted by Admin]

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove what appeared to be an unannotated link to another website.

Please do not post links to other websites without some explanation as to what may be found at the linked webpage.

In other words, if you want to post a link to another website, please include some commentary describing what the link is to.