Kyiv

[Adindas]

I did use kievlady with success, but in a different way. It was sort of reverse inside out.

First of all, there are no trustworthy websites for finding the girls in Kiev. None. Period. End of story.

Kievlady is a portal, where few thousand girls from dozens and dozens of agencies and apartments have their pictures with parameters listed. Nobody can administer such a resource and keep it up to date.

The other reason is the girls privacy, so they post lookalikes.

Almost every foreign monger coming to Kiev wants to search for girls online and that's doable, just not through the website. Messengers must be used instead. Viber, WhatsApp and Telegram are the best.

Call center asks what you want. You explain to dispatchers your preferences, they send you via Viber pictures to chose from, and voila the girl is in your bed for a certain token of appreciation. Maybe she'll match the pictures sent, maybe not. Maybe there will be bait and switch, and maybe you will meet and send back a couple of uglies without touching them, or maybe the girl will be different, but great anyway. I even had girls matching the pictures.

And frequently those pictures that they send via the messenger are taken from kievlady.com. In the past after the meet, I did the search using the announced stage name of the beauty and found her on kievlady.com. But in the last few years I never requested a girl from a website. Even when it says the girl is available, she can be out of the country. Let the dispatcher do the leg work for you.

Viber is more dynamic, and human dispatcher manually performs the role of non-existing automated middle-tier decision-making application server behind the web front-end. Dispatcher manually sifts through the database of available girls, and returns response to your query. Kiev has enough affordable educated DB programmers. They could have easily kept kievlady.com up-to-date, except that would make it inconvenient for dispatchers, keeping them too confined. Girls come and go, popular ones are available for short intervals of time between the customers, drivers lie to mama-sans, mama-sans lie to dispatchers, remote dispatchers juggle multiple customers and agencies, so there's logistics similar to air traffic control.

So please stop complaining about cheaters and such. Websites are useful only to find after the fact more pictures of the girls you liked, and maybe they'll be cheaper than what the dispatcher requested from you via Viber. Dispatcher partners with multiple agencies. Agencies split the profit or impose a markup, with overlapping dispatchers.

I still prefer this random shooting the fish in the barrel over physically going through the filthy apartments to see the girls face-to-face.

Kiev lady also has a chat. But I never used it.

There are a few parties outthere such as exclusive escort agency, night club owners in the city centres, do not like the people to share info about girls listing / directories such as kievlady.com. They will try their best to scaremonger people not to use them, as it is a threat for their business.

I often witness some girls working in the exclusive escort agency, night club are the same girls working in the girls listing / directories. The difference is only that you pay 2-4 times more just because they are working in the more exclusive escort agency, night clubs. On the top of that, cover charge, ladies' drinks, etc.

How many local people are using exclusive escort agencies, visiting night clubs? But this is not to suggest that Escort agency, night clubs are a bad things. Escort agency, night clubs might be suitable or even the only option for some tourists who want a personal assitstance with romantic adventures, who are on very short visit, have very little time to do desk and leg work.

To me escort agencies, visiting night club is just a waste of time as all I need is a quick shag. Spending time drinking, chit chat BS is just a waste of time. I share the opinion that we should let the mongers to make their own informed decision. I could effort to pay escort agencies, visiting night clubs, but why should I pay more and wasting my time for BS chic chat if I could get the same result I want to with less? Also with that sort of money and time I could have more fun with more girls.

Unless they have other purposes to travel, It makes me wonder why people would want to travel miles away if they could get the same result with less money, less time wasting on their front doors.

[Sorbonne]

Most of these pics / girls are fake. I think it's one of the worst website to find girls.

Example, first page.

https://kievlady.com/en/modeli/396317-ivanna/

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...nUnGTcUptQJlqQ

I would love to have a bunga bunga party with this Ivanna.

[PhotoSlider]

True. Some are WGs and solely using fake pictures as b&S to get you throughthe door, other might be the dating site, pornsites with intention to get your contact and spam you. But no escort directories, listing website is free from these fake profiles. Even one of the largest one such as "adultwork" and continuosly removing fake profiles is still bombarded by fake profiles.

I think the best court of action is to report it to the website administrator with evidence. If they believe it is fake, they will remove.

Regarding https://kievlady.com A few people have reported using it with success.

I did use kievlady with success, but in a different way. It was sort of reverse inside out.

First of all, there are no trustworthy websites for finding the girls in Kiev. None. Period. End of story.

Kievlady is a portal, where few thousand girls from dozens and dozens of agencies and apartments have their pictures with parameters listed. Nobody can administer such a resource and keep it up to date.

The other reason is the girls privacy, so they post lookalikes.

Almost every foreign monger coming to Kiev wants to search for girls online and that's doable, just not through the website. Messengers must be used instead. Viber, WhatsApp and Telegram are the best.

Call center asks what you want. You explain to dispatchers your preferences, they send you via Viber pictures to chose from, and voila the girl is in your bed for a certain token of appreciation. Maybe she'll match the pictures sent, maybe not. Maybe there will be bait and switch, and maybe you will meet and send back a couple of uglies without touching them, or maybe the girl will be different, but great anyway. I even had girls matching the pictures.

And frequently those pictures that they send via the messenger are taken from kievlady.com. In the past after the meet, I did the search using the announced stage name of the beauty and found her on kievlady.com. But in the last few years I never requested a girl from a website. Even when it says the girl is available, she can be out of the country. Let the dispatcher do the leg work for you.

Viber is more dynamic, and human dispatcher manually performs the role of non-existing automated middle-tier decision-making application server behind the web front-end. Dispatcher manually sifts through the database of available girls, and returns response to your query. Kiev has enough affordable educated DB programmers. They could have easily kept kievlady.com up-to-date, except that would make it inconvenient for dispatchers, keeping them too confined. Girls come and go, popular ones are available for short intervals of time between the customers, drivers lie to mama-sans, mama-sans lie to dispatchers, remote dispatchers juggle multiple customers and agencies, so there's logistics similar to air traffic control.

So please stop complaining about cheaters and such. Websites are useful only to find after the fact more pictures of the girls you liked, and maybe they'll be cheaper than what the dispatcher requested from you via Viber. Dispatcher partners with multiple agencies. Agencies split the profit or impose a markup, with overlapping dispatchers.

I still prefer this random shooting the fish in the barrel over physically going through the filthy apartments to see the girls face-to-face.

Kiev lady also has a chat. But I never used it.

[YummyPL]

Most of these pics / girls are fake. I think it's one of the worst website to find girls.

Example, first page.

https://kievlady.com/en/modeli/396317-ivanna/

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...nUnGTcUptQJlqQ

Fake? I just assumed I could fuck Ivana Alawi for $60 an hour.

[Adindas]

Most of these pics / girls are fake. I think it's one of the worst website to find girls.

Example, first page.

https://kievlady.com/en/modeli/396317-ivanna/

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...nUnGTcUptQJlqQ

True. Some are WGs and solely using fake pictures as b&S to get you throughthe door, other might be the dating site, pornsites with intention to get your contact and spam you. But no escort directories, listing website is free from these fake profiles. Even one of the largest one such as "adultwork" and continuosly removing fake profiles is still bombarded by fake profiles.

I think the best court of action is to report it to the website administrator with evidence. If they believe it is fake, they will remove.

Regarding https://kievlady.com A few people have reported using it with success.

[PhotoSlider]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53632043

This is a great news!

We will soon be able to test the girls at hotel lobby. In Kiev it is a law to disinfect hotel lobby, so the girls are unlikely to catch the virus while waiting.

Hopefully, the test kit will be affordable soon enough.

AFAIK, taking a swab from the throat or nose is relatively easy, but then it goes into the reader, and as portable as those are, PCR or antibody test readers will be at the medical lab, unlikely in the hotel lobby.

At the same time I agree with Sorbonne. Hopefully rapid test kits will become available later in the game, those that one could carry in his pocket, and indeed test in the hotel lobby. How affordable? Would the girl agree? Would it still be 90 minutes? Remains to be seen.

I can see the following scenario: upon arrival to Kiev, take your trusted regular to the lab, test her, then go for a cup of tea, or lunch, get the test results in 90 minutes via email. If negative, then keep the girl for as long as you want.

This article says DNA, and COVID is RNA virus. Therefore I assume they talk about RT-PCR or reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction test. Reverse transcription transforms viral RNA to DNA, and PCR attempts to match that DNA to the best of its ability. Chain means multi-step amplification, means the faster it's done, the less accurate the results are.

PCR test has 65-85% accuracy, meaning 15-25% are false negatives. That is out of 1000 samples with COVID it'll miss about 150-250. Typically it is as simple as poor quality sample collecting by the nurse. Girl may still be the carrier, but the test says she's clear. Also younger children have much higher viral count in their samples, they are likely to have no symptoms but transmit with higher probability. Not sure what are the stats for 18-25 year olds.

Antibodies test requires a blood sample. Different story. More precise, but ladies are unlikely to easily volunteer.

[Fred54]

Try this you could call them either incall or outcall.

https://kievlady.com/en/modeli/cheap-prostitutes/

You could easily find a girl for less than UAH 2000 (e. G. US $73) for an hourly rate.

Most of these pics / girls are fake. I think it's one of the worst website to find girls.

Example, first page.

https://kievlady.com/en/modeli/396317-ivanna/

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...nUnGTcUptQJlqQ

[Sorbonne]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53632043

This is a great news!

We will soon be able to test the girls at hotel lobby. In Kiev it is a law to disinfect hotel lobby, so the girls are unlikely to catch the virus while waiting.

Hopefully, the test kit will be affordable soon enough.

I would insist on a different rate, if any, for the 90 min. waiting time.

[Adindas]

It still looks bad with the numbers of infection in Ukraine.

I am getting a bit paranoid about health safety.

I like stripclubs to go have few drinks and view the talent. Seems like not all talent will be available if the stripclubs open partially through their backdoors.

But on the other hand it must be buyers market there so using mamba or trying to find newcomers would be easier comparatively.

I am from green country and that's an advantage with less hassle to start the fun.

Seems like I am not able to make my mind. Suggestions dear mongers? Of course I know that it is the risk that I need to decide in the end but still want to hear out what fellow minds has to say.

Try this you could call them either incall or outcall.

https://kievlady.com/en/modeli/cheap-prostitutes/

You could easily find a girl for less than UAH 2000 (e. G. US $73) for an hourly rate.

[YummyPL]

You used to be able to filter for girls that are "looking for a sponsor" on mamba. But they removed these criteria a while back. Is there a new way of identifying girls that go for money on mamba? (except for the super obvious seasoned pros, but I am looking more for a part time / freelance type of girl 20-23).

It is now accomplished with tags. You can search for tags about sex and sponsorship.

[NorskKing]

You used to be able to filter for girls that are "looking for a sponsor" on mamba. But they removed these criteria a while back. Is there a new way of identifying girls that go for money on mamba? (except for the super obvious seasoned pros, but I am looking more for a part time / freelance type of girl 20-23).

I just upgraded my mamba to VIP and realized the same thing. The search criteria based on "looking for sponsor" does not exist anymore. Just want to try my luck on mamba as theoretically it should be a buyers market and many girls getting to kick start their economy.

[Fred54]

You used to be able to filter for girls that are "looking for a sponsor" on mamba. But they removed these criteria a while back. Is there a new way of identifying girls that go for money on mamba? (except for the super obvious seasoned pros, but I am looking more for a part time / freelance type of girl 20-23).

I had a look to this website, research is not super accurate, by location or even tag. Sometimes it's better to scroll the morning the pics "meeting" and check the profile after.

You may need something like 15 minutes each day, but sometimes you find a treasure.

[Argo1990]

You used to be able to filter for girls that are "looking for a sponsor" on mamba. But they removed these criteria a while back. Is there a new way of identifying girls that go for money on mamba? (except for the super obvious seasoned pros, but I am looking more for a part time / freelance type of girl 20-23).

[NorskKing]

It still looks bad with the numbers of infection in Ukraine.

I am getting a bit paranoid about health safety.

I like stripclubs to go have few drinks and view the talent. Seems like not all talent will be available if the stripclubs open partially through their backdoors.

But on the other hand it must be buyers market there so using mamba or trying to find newcomers would be easier comparatively.

I am from green country and that's an advantage with less hassle to start the fun.

Seems like I am not able to make my mind. Suggestions dear mongers? Of course I know that it is the risk that I need to decide in the end but still want to hear out what fellow minds has to say.

[Hestendk]

Hestendk;.

Great report.

4000-5000 UAH for all night is still OK, but UAH 7000 (US $255) is already in the upside, considering you could easily find freelancer / escort in other countries in Europe, with that price range. But if they are 8-9 it might be worthy.

Is there a way to know to know that the one will turn up to your hotel is likely the one you see in the Mamba website and not heavily photoshopped? Just in case the one turns up to your hotel is not your liking is there any polite way to send them back?

Sometimes also I fail to understand the way the prostitution work in Ukraine. If you go to Czech Republic, Poland for instance US girls. You will normally pay less for UA girl, but it seems they are pricier in their own hometown??

In some cases of outcall girls in other countries especially they are very professional, they will go home or refuse to do another session after the first session? Is there nay way to spot this in advance?

7000 UAH from 19/20 to 10/11 Next day is An okay price still, but it can be found cheaper.

In my homecountry an UA girl will cost at least 4000 UAH each hour, an an all night around 20.000 UAH.

Yes Mamba can be photoshopped by I always avoid those who only have professionals pictures, and I ask for more pictures on viber / whatsapp.

If a girl shows up and looks nothing as the photo yes then I would send he away, Many times I think the girls look better then they do on the photos, some also use fake photos that looks 90% like them, but they will show the real photo after contact is made.