Kyiv

[David42]

Wow.

You sound like an expert!

I will send you a PM.

As has been mentioned on this forum by the people who have spent the longest time here (the true experts), the greatest advantage is time.

Also relevant but less important: travelling experience / skills (language learning skills, not letting the fear of looking like an idiot stop you from the trial and error journey, which is the only path to becoming an expert; growing up in England as a minority, with brown skin has kept me on my toes, humble, sensitive, frequently questioning), looking half-decent / attractive is a plus.

My parental background is Spanish / Indian, so I have language / accent abilities. I learnt my Spanish in Salamanca, Spain at the age of 27, from virtually nothing as my mother rarely speaks the language, but I prioritized it.

My travelling habit is different to most mongers. I make my money during intensive periods, and then have months of free time.

I have in total spent over ten years living abroad, so different languages / cultures / fears, create little fear anymore.

This is my second 'chunk' of mongering, the first being in the DR.

So I guess I'm at stage 2.

Reading through these forums, which also requires time, there are some men who have been doing this for 20 years!

I am sure they would consider me a newbie, maybe not as a traveller, but probably in regards to sexual growth / maturity.

[Arkiloko]

I don't know what efforts you all waste.
...
No money for nothing and no chics for free.

I don't know if you're right. Never been to skybar, read too much negative report all around the internet.

But you wrote the coolest post ever.

[PhotoSlider]

Go to skybar. Book a table with champagne.

The rest comes automatic.

Why pay overhead at SkyBar?

Isn't it 400 USD for table reservation? Bottle of champagne would be at least 4000 UAH. I can have 7 girls delivered to my door downtown Kiev for that much. And at least 4-5 of them will be decent both by their looks and performance.

Generally speaking why go to any spot anywhere near Arena City? With or without a local guide it is the best place to strip you off your money.

[Vadik74]

I don't know what efforts you all waste.

Grab a friend who is native.

Go to skybar. Book a table with champagne.

The rest comes automatic.

"lets go for a coffee" "I had a 8/10" "is Kyiv safe" "I live there" bla bla bla.

Whats that for discussions?

Midlife crisis? Ukraine is to grab. Not to ask.

Action walks and bullshit talks.

No money for nothing and no chics for free.

[Vadik74]

Wow.

You sound like an expert!

I will send you a PM.

I have been through about 30 girls.

I have lots of info about apartments in maidan, arena city area, klovska.

I have 10/12 apartments that I have experience with, and 6 or 7 agency contacts.

Prices range from 1200 up to 2100.

I have come across some people who are happy to exchange, others just want to take and not give back, so clearly I'm not going to give info to the one who doesn't give back to me or the forum.

I can share the contact of a Ukrainian friend, who lives here, and can help with many things.

I have also a number of girls that I can share with someone willing to do the same.

Photoslider's help was very invaluable to get me started, and I was lucky to be in contact with someone from Germany (unfortunately he was here for only a few days) who had the same approach as myself to sharing.

Message me if you want to get info.

[MuscleHetero]

For indies definitely business would be good without any cuts to pimps or taxes. No man this is not how she came to me. This is her profile pic.

Wow! That's a hot girl in the photo. Hookers must be raking in the cash to be wearing designer duds like that. Usually they wear Gucci on night outs to show off. She come to your place like that?

[Riina]

I had 3 nights in Kiev. First night contacted a SP Antonio and he had three ranges of girls from 1500-2500 for a hour as outcall to my hotel. Chose a 1500 girl who arrived promptly at time. Went to lobby and brought her without issues. She was older than the pic. She wanted to give me massage and B2 be with cream first and than proceeded to CBJ and covered sex in different positions. She had a shower and left soon after with 200 more for taxi.

The next day contacted a semipro val. Fixed the deed for 2000 for 1 hour as she was awesome. She arrived a little late due to traffic Jam, came directly to room. She had a very good face and body and gave one of the best GFE. After one session we drank a beer and extended the session for another hour. She could get me erect soon but couldn't get make me cum. But she was so friendly without any anger she tried her best by giving BBBJ, 69 and rimming and again took her in multiple positions in covered sex. It was the first time I did DATY and Rimming on a WG. She was very clean down there without any smell. I came after 30 minutes of effort and lots of sweating. She made my stay in Kiev something to remember. We chatted for some time in her limited knowledge of English and using google translator and then she had a shower and left.

My Rating for her is 10/10 in all aspects.

I went to a strip club called princess men's club which was very professional and good and the he next day Caribbean night club and danced till 3 am, There were many WGs in this club.

Wow! That's a hot girl in the photo. Hookers must be raking in the cash to be wearing designer duds like that. Usually they wear Gucci on night outs to show off. She come to your place like that?

[MuscleHetero]

I had 3 nights in Kiev. First night contacted a SP Antonio and he had three ranges of girls from 1500-2500 for a hour as outcall to my hotel. Chose a 1500 girl who arrived promptly at time. Went to lobby and brought her without issues. She was older than the pic. She wanted to give me massage and B2 be with cream first and than proceeded to CBJ and covered sex in different positions. She had a shower and left soon after with 200 more for taxi.

The next day contacted a semipro val. Fixed the deed for 2000 for 1 hour as she was awesome. She arrived a little late due to traffic Jam, came directly to room. She had a very good face and body and gave one of the best GFE. After one session we drank a beer and extended the session for another hour. She could get me erect soon but couldn't get make me cum. But she was so friendly without any anger she tried her best by giving BBBJ, 69 and rimming and again took her in multiple positions in covered sex. It was the first time I did DATY and Rimming on a WG. She was very clean down there without any smell. I came after 30 minutes of effort and lots of sweating. She made my stay in Kiev something to remember. We chatted for some time in her limited knowledge of English and using google translator and then she had a shower and left.

My Rating for her is 10/10 in all aspects.

I went to a strip club called princess men's club which was very professional and good and the he next day Caribbean night club and danced till 3 am, There were many WGs in this club.

[David42]

I have been through about 30 girls.

I have lots of info about apartments in maidan, arena city area, klovska.

I have 10/12 apartments that I have experience with, and 6 or 7 agency contacts.

Prices range from 1200 up to 2100.

I have come across some people who are happy to exchange, others just want to take and not give back, so clearly I'm not going to give info to the one who doesn't give back to me or the forum.

I can share the contact of a Ukrainian friend, who lives here, and can help with many things.

I have also a number of girls that I can share with someone willing to do the same.

Photoslider's help was very invaluable to get me started, and I was lucky to be in contact with someone from Germany (unfortunately he was here for only a few days) who had the same approach as myself to sharing.

Message me if you want to get info.

[Tomster99]

Can you have only massage there?

Usually yes. Happened to me ONCE that it came to more. Because of great chemistry.

But the massages are very intense and with HE

[Arkiloko]

Hi guys,

I am a lot into massages lately. Feel like sharing your preferred places in Kiew?

Up to now: mine is SalonDream currently.

Can you have only massage there?

[Wgmm99]

I have a question about girls with tinder profiles that only have an instagram in the description or say to write them on insta because they don't visit tinder often, etc. In your experiences, are they pros / semi-pros. I have had decent success on Mamba with finding good semi-pro student types in the past but if this is another avenue to find similar types, I would explore this option as well. Thanks in advance!

[DeepakPateluk]

Thanks for reply. I'm going to read through pages but it is confusing as so many suggestions for evening but not daytime.

I'm going to be staying near independent square I hope this is a good location.

Last question: are shoes essential to enter a nightclub / evening bar if yes buying a bottle of vodka from hotel sort that issue out?

Thanks.

1. ID? NO!! Most girls do not come from Kiev. They are originally from small towns. There they are also registered. Re-applying for a lost ID in Ukraine is very complicated. That's why most girls will not have IDs in their pockets. Even in hotels, girls are not asked for an ID.

[Tomster99]

1. ID? NO!! Most girls do not come from Kiev. They are originally from small towns. There they are also registered. Re-applying for a lost ID in Ukraine is very complicated. That's why most girls will not have IDs in their pockets. Even in hotels, girls are not asked for an ID.

I also had meetings with girls under 18. But I did not realize it in that moment. Student cards are also available for girls unter 18. Or they come with a 18+ student card of the friend/sister. And on Mamba you can not trust the age anyway. Some girls are younger than 18. But most girls are much older than written in profile. As a rule, add 4 to 7 years to the Mamba age. Then you will not be disappointed.

2. The most important locations are listed here in the forum. Please read back 10 pages. But I think it only takes three or four pages to find the most important locations for a newbie.

3. Girls come and go. It is urgently needed money (for rent or a new phone). After that, the emergency is gone. The girls delete the profile. Or just do not go to the Mamba site anymore. Sometimes they are also fake profiles of agencies. Or there are complaints. Then Mamba deletes the profiles.

Concerning the ID: I found quite often that the "Security" guy at the hotel asks girls entering with me their ID's actually. Which is always a bit of a "lust killer". Anyhow. At least it SEEMS that it's expected from women to be able to show ID.

Always wondering what these "security" guys expect? Me bribing them after all I can bring any girl I want to the hotel room, right?

What is your experience guys?

[Tomster99]

Hi guys,

I am a lot into massages lately. Feel like sharing your preferred places in Kiew?

Up to now: mine is SalonDream currently.