Kyiv

[OldMcDonald]

Hi Vitrea, good review.

Can I ask where you found the guide? Any contacts you can share? Thanks.

I'll be in Ukraine on Saturday, will you still be around?

First day:

As I mentioned, it was three of us so I was a bit nervous that we may have to work too hard to find quality. That was not the case. It does help to be relaxed about the process.

The guide arranged a taxi on an hourly rate. That is a no brainer as the apartments are all over town and you do not want to waste time looking for taxis. Efficiency and reliability are keys to my successful mongering trip.

The apartments: Not many people write about these. I don't know if a typical tourist does not know about the good ones or because you typically need a smart guide to access them, unless you live here of course. In the past I had touts that give you cards on the street and take you to few sad looking places with depressing line up for 500 to 700 grivnas. Those are junk. Not worth the 3-5 flight of stairs you may have to take.

A good guide will call ahead and ask how many are working and we go depending on availability...

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[Chris Rob]

In my personal experience if you have a money and don't mind spending it, best place for mongering is Russia. Russian girls are more open minded and less drama compare to Ukrainian girls.

Hello!

I've been to Russia, in Saint Petersburg, and I've been to clubs there with Russian girls that have shown me they are a lot friendlier and open minded than the Ukrainian or the Bulgarian. It seems interesting that they have that mentality when we have the idea that Russia is a close minded country but Russian girls always surprise me and, as you say, if you have money they are the best option.

[Vitrea]

First day:

As I mentioned, it was three of us so I was a bit nervous that we may have to work too hard to find quality. That was not the case. It does help to be relaxed about the process.

The guide arranged a taxi on an hourly rate. That is a no brainer as the apartments are all over town and you do not want to waste time looking for taxis. Efficiency and reliability are keys to my successful mongering trip.

The apartments: Not many people write about these. I don't know if a typical tourist does not know about the good ones or because you typically need a smart guide to access them, unless you live here of course. In the past I had touts that give you cards on the street and take you to few sad looking places with depressing line up for 500 to 700 grivnas. Those are junk. Not worth the 3-5 flight of stairs you may have to take.

A good guide will call ahead and ask how many are working and we go depending on availability.

So, most apartments, you can have a session there or they come to your apartment for extra taxi money of 100 Grivna each way. If you choose two girls from the same apartment, the price for taxi is shared. A fair system. All prices are set and do not try to negotiate and look like a fool. The only thing you may be able to negotiate a bit is extras. More on extras later but for me kissing is important and for some girls, especially if they are in relationship of some sort, it is is hard for them and not about the money. With my mongering style, I focus on how much fun I had with a girl and not how low I negotiated it down. I stop it if it stops being fun. It is personal and situational.

Also, rare but different girls may have different prices in the same apartment. Don't ask why. Go with the flow.

After you pick a girl, you tell them when and where to come. They shower and get dolled up and come on time. You better give them the exact time you are going to be ready. It is not like latin America, where I always tell them 30 minutes before I need them. Haha.

Some places will ask for 500 deposit but if you go with a guide, they generally don't worry about it. You pay when you arrive. They usually come in a private car and when they do the driver collects and leaves. So that means you pay them even before they get out of the car. First time, I found that weird but since I have done it so many times, and no I know that there have never been any issues, I don't mind. If you use a guide, you can relax in the sofa when the guide pays and brings her up.

90% of apartment girls dress very elegantly. In Kiev, hookers don't look like "hookers". In many parts of the world, cheap hookers dress the part, even when they show up Bellagio. In Europe, that is rare, except in red light areas. Anyway, I digress.

Line up: Never saw one below a six. Typical is 7's few 8's and an occasional 9.

First stop had one girl working. Guide said, she is hot so we went. Turns out I know her from before but a friend wanted to see her. Alexandra. She was amazing last year, Ok face, stunner body and had a bit of an attitude. Now, she has same stunner body, face a little cuter but much worse attitude. 2700 for one hour plus taxi. I had to talk my friend out of taking her and we went to another place. Taxi was waiting.

The other place is more upscale. Had 7 girls and three are doable. Two 8's and a 9.

Emma: 5' 9", spoke english and is the leader of the pack due to her english.

Samantha: 5' 11". Beautiful, a solid 9. Little english but friendly enough to deal with google translate.

We needed a third so we told Emma and Samantha to be at our apartment 45 minutes from then and went looking for company for my third friend.

Next place had 8 girls but we only needed one. Dasha is beautiful. I 9 for sure but she had three more inches, she would be a 10.

All three showed up on time, looking beautiful. Once the guide knew everting is all set, he took off. We hung out in the living room, had some drinks, music, google translate and the routine before retiring to our rooms.

Emma is a huge hit for me: A solid 8 in face, 9 or better in body, and a 10 in bed. Wow.

My friend was super happy with Samantha. She is a 10. He liked her performance but I was not with her. We are seeing them again two days later.

Dasha: She is a spinner stunner with rose gold curly hair, super cute face too but a bit cold and inexperienced. When we first saw her, All of us wanted to take turns calling for her in the future but I don't think so. In her defense, she had a cold and said she is not feeling 100% but my friend still wanted to see her. May be she would have been better another day but I doubt it. There are too many good friendly ones to take chances.

Dinner at a nice local restaurant followed by Buddha bar and Rio and we ended the night with a three hour party at our apartment. More on that later.

[Vitrea]

I want to write a detailed report. I am writing this as a sucure place holder.

We rented a private apartment 3 BR /2 B. Very nice off of Lesi Ukrainiaki.

Our guide met us minutes after arrival and party started.

We went to apartments, Buddha Nar, Rio and pulled girls from there.

6 sessions for 3 guys. 2 9's and 4 solids eights. Super friendly and honest. Classy and civilized bunch.

[Vitrea]

Could you explain your thought in more detail? I did not quite understand your idea. Unfortunately I have never been in Latin America and probably tend to idealize Colombia. You want to say that Colombian girls maybe are actually not so very beautiful and not as very accessible as some guys like me can think? Or that? My idea of Colombia is somewhat idealized?

Your imagination is all true and accurate. Personally, My best blowjobs are from Colombia. Paisas specifically. Most are BBBJ. You don't have to beg or bribe for it.

What I am saying is that just the optics of a model material with natural golden silky hair going down on you is worth in itself.

[Jonathan Pine]

The average wage in Russia is more than double that of Ukraine. It's several times higher if we are talking about Moscow. Ukraine is Russia without oil and gas. Do you guys think Russia would be this rich without oil and gas? In addition, Ukraine is even more corrupt than Russia. Lots of girls from Ukraine are working in Russia now.

[DramaFree11]

I agree 100%. Also, the girls are more hones and hard working. Both of the qualities are lacking in Kiev at the moment.

I agree the city is cool, but the nightlife is just not very good now. Friday is decent, but it goes downhill quickly.

[Tomek123]

Good post. I am a Colombia pro and that is I exactly why I am loving Kiev. When these beauties do suck your dick, it is an amazing feeling. How many of us had a model material suck their dick? I had two of them do it on the last 12 hours. I landed 15 hours ago.

Amazing destination, if you don't mind spending.

Could you explain your thought in more detail? I did not quite understand your idea. Unfortunately I have never been in Latin America and probably tend to idealize Colombia. You want to say that Colombian girls maybe are actually not so very beautiful and not as very accessible as some guys like me can think? Or that? My idea of Colombia is somewhat idealized?

[Tomek123]

In my personal experience if you have a money and don't mind spending it, best place for mongering is Russia. Russian girls are more open minded and less drama compare to Ukrainian girls.

The standard of living and wages, salaries in Russia are two times higher than in Ukraine. And food products are twice as expensive as in Ukraine. A few millions of Ukrainian guest workers work in Russia. So I do not understand why Russia is a more acceptable option and a choice for sex mongering than Ukraine.

Why?

Why Russian girls will be more affordable and cheaper than Ukrainians if a kilogram of sausage or meat in Russia costs twice as much as in Ukraine?

Or Russian girls do not buy food in the store and supermarket?

[Vitrea]

In my personal experience if you have a money and don't mind spending it, best place for mongering is Russia. Russian girls are more open minded and less drama compare to Ukrainian girls.

I have heard that too. Hope to do Russia soon. For now, we are super happy in Kiev. I hope I am not jinxing myself.

Details to follow.

[Samcik]

Good post. I am a Colombia pro and that is I exactly why I am loving Kiev. When these beauties do suck your dick, it is an amazing feeling. How many of us had a model material suck their dick? I had two of them do it on the last 12 hours. I landed 15 hours ago.

Amazing destination, if you don't mind spending.

In my personal experience if you have a money and don't mind spending it, best place for mongering is Russia. Russian girls are more open minded and less drama compare to Ukrainian girls.

[Vitrea]

.............Experienced guys and have known for so long that Ukraine is not Colombia or Thailand. No one will ever see in Kiev on the streets a crowd of beautiful girls ready to suck your dick.......

Good post. I am a Colombia pro and that is I exactly why I am loving Kiev. When these beauties do suck your dick, it is an amazing feeling. How many of us had a model material suck their dick? I had two of them do it on the last 12 hours. I landed 15 hours ago.

Amazing destination, if you don't mind spending.

[Master929]

Hi guys,

I have been reading that forum for a couple of month now and its been really helpful.

I am planning a trip to Kiev at the end of the month and I am looking for some girls contacts, so far I only have managed to gather two mamba girls that are willing to meet. So if anyone has some good contacts and willing to share please PM me.

I will make a detailed review when I come back to let people know what you can expect in Kiev from a "newbie monger."

Cheers.

[Deer1234]

Frankly the services will almost certainly be covered on a first occasion but if you click with the girl and you get her phone number you can expect more with each subsequent visit. I've met a number of really lovely girls this way and they are friends as much as anything. Oh and if you want some professional assistance you can pm me for Andrei's number but not all members of this forum are fans.

Thank you very much for your useful information. However, I noticed, many of the new pros are accompanied by a relatively old well experienced pros (as in a fighter plane squadron). In addition, nice looking pros are not at the cheap bar. Instead, they appear from somewhere else. In the case of Caribbean club, they seem to appear from the upstairs. Do the pros book their sofas as their bridgehead? (unlikely.). (I go to Caribbean club because I am an Asian and other clubs smell more or less racist, though I do not call them neo-n**I). Are there any other clubs as friendly as the Caribbean?

By the way, it is interesting to observe the behaviors of Ukrainian girls (pros, semi-pros and amateurs) in the night clubs and mamba. In mamba, some young girls check "looking for sex" and "looking for a financial sponsor". However, if I mention $, they may shout "I am not a hooker!" and block their profile from me. In this sense, I agree with your observation in the clubs. This is a big difference from other countries. And this is perhaps why I am addicted with Ukraine.

[Tomek123]

That's right. I am referring to Kiev thread. At the beginning, it's RIO, RIO, then it's some pimps / girls tried to promote the girls / themselves by writing good views in trip posts by posing as mongers. Then, it some guide / pimps and etc. Every now and then, you see them. Just be skeptical if something is too good to be true. You'll be ok.

So what. I sometimes promote any girl, for example Marina 26 years old I sometimes fuck, 6/9 but inexpensive and good anal. I sometimes give her contacts to other guys. Then I'm a pimp? She has two little children and I just want to help her. She's a little stupid but I've known her for a long time and sometimes I help her. For example in Ukraine and even Poland is a normal phenomenon when guys exchange contacts of girls. You can read about the type of sex. A good girl in bed or not very much and so on etc. Etc.

I see no reason to lure someone into Ukraine. Experienced guys and have known for so long that Ukraine is not Colombia or Thailand. No one will ever see in Kiev on the streets a crowd of beautiful girls ready to suck your dick. All experienced guys know this perfectly well. Ukraine is a rather poor scene for mongering. Of course better Colombia. I for two days found in Facebook a huge number of Colombian girls ready for little money to suck my dick. ! I was just amazed. It was just my little experiment. In Ukraine, there can never be such a. Find a girl ready to suck you dick in Ukraine in VKontakte or FB or Odnoklassniki is not as easy as in Colombia. But I'm more comfortable with Ukraine than Colombia. I know the language. I know the mentality, I know the humor. For me better Ukraine, I can do,street works, etc. Columbia is far from Poland and expensive (airplane). I do not earn as much as guys from the USA or Canada. I earn about 1 000-1200 dollars and I better rest in Ukraine among the lonely MILF or poor students in no big Ukrainian cities.