Kyiv

[YummyPL]

Beauty is subjective...

Is there a 10?

I have not seen any in real life.

Maybe Anna Nicole Smith, Irina Shayk.

Agreed Misc123! It really is good that beauty is subjective. It would be bad if we all had to chase the same girls. While I agree that Irina Shayk is very hot (probably a solid 8+ in her prime), I have never seen a picture of Anna Nicole Smith where I thought she was better than a 6.5 and in most pictures in her prime she just looks fat and I think she looks more like a 5. Lean bodies are important to me--much more so than pretty faces- and Anna Nicole Smith rarely looks lean.

And also, thanks Bliss for your fun post!

[YummyPL]

First Tinder date 1 week in Kiev. I said we can meet near independent square. She said why meet there? We can meet in a restaurant. OK I suggested a burger / salad place. She said honestly I don't go to cheap place. Lets go to "Atmosphere in Premier Palace hotel on the roof". I took a look at the menu there are items 3500 and 4500 but they also have 350 to 450 items too but I'm sure she will get the 4500. I know I may be desperate to have a dates but I say this is definitively a scam.

Hahahahahaha! That is funny as hell.

[Jonathan Pine]

It sounds the start of a perfect stringing along story.

Say yes, and she will think she has hit the jackpot and will come after a successful dinner at good premises with something like: "I'm a good girl, I really like you but I don't want to start anything immediately but to know you better let's meet again" (in another good place of course).

After that there will come some college fees, or hospital stuff. To see how stupid you are...

I've been told the same thing. Grandmother or mother's sick (so they can't meet you), need money for medical care. Unable to continue to study in university because no money for tuition, . Bla bla bla.

Move on to the next girl.

[BlissDps]

I am in Lviv with girlfriend now and VK.com is not working. Girlfriend say that is because the President banned VK since it is Russian. Can use VK if you have a server / IP address outside Ukraine.

Use TOR.

https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html

[Uoykucf]

Dating or dealing with prostitutes, that's not the same. As long as you pay, even if you are old, ugly, shy or just average, an escort will go with you, that's her job. Of course you can have successes by dating girls in Kiev, but that's tough for the categories of men mentioning above.

True to life!

[BlissDps]

Tell he as long as she is prepared to split the bill.

It sounds the start of a perfect stringing along story.

Say yes, and she will think she has hit the jackpot and will come after a successful dinner at good premises with something like: "I'm a good girl, I really like you but I don't want to start anything immediately but to know you better let's meet again" (in another good place of course).

After that there will come some college fees, or hospital stuff. To see how stupid you are.

My advice: If she really says she says she is open for a long (er) term and / or serious relationship you can do the following: Agree to meet her in the place she wants, but when she's there, call or message her that you went to the ATM and your card didn't work for some stupid reason and you only have how much you like to spend. You can see her intentions. If she says "oh no worries we can still have a good dinner somewhere else for that amount" or if she says"don't worry I won't choose anything excessive" or if she says "no worries lets meet other time'.

[The Mercy Seat]

I am in Lviv with girlfriend now and VK.com is not working. Girlfriend say that is because the President banned VK since it is Russian. Can use VK if you have a server / IP address outside Ukraine.

[GDreams]

First Tinder date 1 week in Kiev. I said we can meet near independent square. She said why meet there? We can meet in a restaurant. OK I suggested a burger / salad place. She said honestly I don't go to cheap place. Lets go to "Atmosphere in Premier Palace hotel on the roof". I took a look at the menu there are items 3500 and 4500 but they also have 350 to 450 items too but I'm sure she will get the 4500. I know I may be desperate to have a dates but I say this is definitively a scam.

Tell he as long as she is prepared to split the bill.

[Misc123]

Spasibo Bliss for sharing.

Beauty is subjective so I will put my 2 cents.

My rating of 8 maybe your 5 and your 8 maybe my 5.

About the girls photos you shared. I will put them between 5-8.

The last girl rated 10 or GF material, I may consider a 8-8. 5.

Is there a 10?

I have not seen any in real life.

Maybe Anna Nicole Smith, Irina Shayk.

Ciao.

Misc.

5: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2z657gl&s=9#. WV9 BetR97 s0.

Possible when drunk.

6: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9r642q&s=9#. WV9 Fb9 R97 s0.

Possible when tipsy.

7: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2pservc&s=9.

Max 1500-2000 grivna per hour.

8: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zyzqxf&s=9.

Max 2000-2500 grivna per hour.

9: http://tinypic.com/r/2pslfkz/9.

Max 2500-3000 grivna per hour.

10: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2pslfkz&s=9.

GF / Wife material.

[Misc123]

The girl posted from gia agency is a 7 in Kiev from there you can imagine the rest.

Hello Luis,

Which girl from Gia is a 7?

I looked at their website and girls range from 4-5 to 8-with a couple of rare 9 maybe.

That said beauty is subjective and everyone is different.

And about the GIA price. They are high for Kiev, but adjusted for quality and if I have money to throw around, and how desperate I am, I might with hesitation.

[BlissDps]

Hi Luis. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I agree with you on many points. My question to you is, can you post some photos of Kiev girls, so we know your standards for 5-6, 7-8 and 9-10? Then everyone (including me) in this forum gets a clear idea whether they are over or underpaying from a experienced monger like you?
Spasibo
Ciao.
Misc.

5: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2z657gl&s=9#. WV9 BetR97 s0.

Possible when drunk.

6: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9r642q&s=9#. WV9 Fb9 R97 s0.

Possible when tipsy.

7: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2pservc&s=9.

Max 1500-2000 grivna per hour.

8: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zyzqxf&s=9.

Max 2000-2500 grivna per hour.

9: http://tinypic.com/r/2pslfkz/9.

Max 2500-3000 grivna per hour.

10: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2pslfkz&s=9.

GF / Wife material.

[BobSmith1]

First Tinder date 1 week in Kiev. I said we can meet near independent square. She said why meet there? We can meet in a restaurant. OK I suggested a burger / salad place. She said honestly I don't go to cheap place. Lets go to "Atmosphere in Premier Palace hotel on the roof". I took a look at the menu there are items 3500 and 4500 but they also have 350 to 450 items too but I'm sure she will get the 4500. I know I may be desperate to have a dates but I say this is definitively a scam.

[LuisVega11]

Hi Luis. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I agree with you on many points. My question to you is, can you post some photos of Kiev girls, so we know your standards for 5-6, 7-8 and 9-10? Then everyone (including me) in this forum gets a clear idea whether they are over or underpaying from a experienced monger like you?
Spasibo
Ciao.
Misc.

The girl posted from gia agency is a 7 in Kiev from there you can imagine the rest.

[Tomek123]

Why is Luis so upset? Because the rest of us do not have to pay as much? It is as if he wants to raise the prices for everyone. The problem is desperate tourists who pay more than they would pay at home. They pay for one hour more than most girls earn in a whole month in their regular jobs. GIA girls start at 3000 UAH, and those girls are pretty good, and it is clearly indicated that BBJJ is included (to go back to another issue). Maybe girls at the Caribbean, or girls with fake boobs and fake everything else want USD, but there are thousand of students and young single mums that are happy with 1000-2000 UAH. Just my 2 cents!

I agree with you. But such as you and I are not very much. So the scene is very spoiled unfortunately. I fucked an excellent single mother two days ago. 28 years old. Very well sucked BBJ. I am also pleased that I acted as a gallant sponsor haha. Helping young children is so touching and pleasant.

[KievUA]

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