Kyiv

[AntonySun1996]

I married an Ukrainian, applied for permanent residency through my home Embassy. They pocketed the application fee, lost all the paperwork which cost several hundred dollars to get and finally ignored all communication when trying to chase it up. I eventually gave up.

Thanks for your reply. Is it necessary to bribe the officials to speed the process up? Officially as far as I know it would take two years or so, but I'm wondering if there's something could be done to make it quicker.

And how do you know about the migration agencies? Are they reliable?

Cheers.

[DramaFree11]

Good idea, the only issue is there is even more Turk. Guys, then in Kiev, so be prepared. They are every where because it is cheaper. Go to Russia it is amazing, girls are way more beautiful, honest, and some even have jobs. With the crisis there it is not that expensive anymore.

Good day,

I am aware of the fact that this section is intended for Kiev reports, but considering more audience I decided to ask some advice here as well. Taking into consideration my previous unsuccessful trip to Ukraine, I did my homework this time and figured out that Kharkov would be optimum choice for the trip. The main factor to choose Kharkov was that it is predominantly Russian speaking city full of young students. I want to visit Kharkov in the second part of April when it is getting a bit warmer and some girls would need temporary sponsorship in exchange for carnal passion. Besides, as far as I know for Ukrainian standards Kharkov is not as wealthy as Kiev, therefore price tag should be less or at least I'll get more quality for less money. Given its lower standards than Kiev I assume that girls there are more down to earth and less cynical. I might also consider Poltava and somewhat smaller towns, however I have a feeling that Kharkov will work this time. Please tell me your experience and give me some advice in order to avoid unnecessary costs or surprises. Or tell me whether my assumptions are true or false.

Many thanks in advance.

[Zidane10]

Good day,

I am aware of the fact that this section is intended for Kiev reports, but considering more audience I decided to ask some advice here as well. Taking into consideration my previous unsuccessful trip to Ukraine, I did my homework this time and figured out that Kharkov would be optimum choice for the trip. The main factor to choose Kharkov was that it is predominantly Russian speaking city full of students. I want to visit Kharkov in the second part of April when it is getting a bit warmer and some girls would need temporary sponsorship in exchange for carnal passion. Besides, as far as I know for Ukrainian standards Kharkov is not as wealthy as Kiev, therefore price tag should be less or at least I'll get more quality for less money. Given its lower standards than Kiev I assume that girls there are more down to earth and less cynical. I might also consider Poltava and somewhat smaller towns, however I have a feeling that Kharkov will work this time. Please tell me your experience and give me some advice in order to avoid unnecessary costs or surprises. Or tell me whether my assumptions are true or false.

Many thanks in advance.

[Zidane10]

Good day gents,

I have been to Kiev and Lviv last year and I would like to share my general impressions about these cities from mongering perspective. I've been there for about 8 days and spent roughly equal time in both of these towns. From my point of view, Kv is worth to explore if one has at least average Russian skills, but it requires more time in order to get to know a girl and then to get laid. Paid services are a bit overpriced, even though I negotiated everything in fluent Russian. The topic of spoiled glamorous girls and ordinary girls getting greedy for money once they are in Kiev has been discussed here thousand of times, so I won't start it again as I am familiar with every point of view in this regard. Wish I had known more back then before I traveled there. Whatever.

As to Lviv it was a total waste of time since most of the people there do not speak any English or Russian. So, never again.

Thanks.

[Travv]

Was in Hotel Rus for most of the last two weeks in Kiev. Hotel promoted a strip club on the 2 d floor with 1/2 off discount coupons handed out starting at 10 pm for 100 UAH or $5. Went once to this club and then another time to the club at Presidential Hotel next door. Little pressure to buy drinks or tip and good looking girls, but after buying several drinks and tipping 100 UAH for a number of girls, asked a girl about going to a hotel room. She said that that was not permitted but she would take me to the VIP room for 200 UAH. Declined and left. Another member of my tour did the 200 UAH VIP room thing, but he only received a lap dance. He claimed that girls for going to a hotel room were available in the smoking lounge but I did not check this out. If you are going to the clubs, advise wearing a coat and tie, as you will be treated better.

Contacted some girls from an online website but the first did not look anything like the photo so I offered to pay afterwards and put the money where she could see it, as I did not trust her to just grab the money and walk out. I told her I did not trust Ukrainians to not cheat me so pay afterwards, then she walked out (without the money since I blocked her from just grabbing it from the top of the TV) saying I was crazy in a loud voice. Tried again later, hotel security got involved but when I told them I paid for a double room, they stopped hassling me in the lobby. You might want to get a local cell phone with a Ukrainian sim card for $30 (around 900 UAH) for easy calling local girls.

Overall, I'd suggest getting a double room for a few bucks more or an Airbnb room as the hotel security watch the lobby and if you haven't paid for a double room, they will be hassling you for "tips" or whatever. Saw one working girl sitting around on the 2 d floor but did not try to contact her as the online girls website looked like a better quality of girls, but the photos do not show what will be arriving in your cab. If you do not like the surprise (landwhale or? Arriving by taxi, send the girl back and try again and ask for the girl (model) shown in the photos. Good luck getting that.

Coyle,

Do you know if indeed in hotels (top ones, like 5* or 4*) are hanging around in lobby / lobby bar hot WG's, and in which hotels?

Or if any of other members with experience in Kiev can give this info?!

Some 6-7 years ago one of best experience I had in Marriott Bucharest. In bar while having glass. Two of wine around 9 - 9. 30 pm noted that there was several girls (as I was told later, even the hotel arrange & agree with selected ladies to be there! Bla bla bla, 1-2 drinks I offered to those two friends after the eye-contact (they made it as I was on my damn laptop and mails!) and black hair one at one point was straight: I'd like very much to be your company in your room for 2-3 hrs instead of going home!

[GDreams]

I've heard that happens when they sense your marriage is a fraud.

Don't know, I was not living near the Embassy to hassle them in person and my wife moved to Australia so it did not really have as much importance to me as when I was spending 4 months of the year in Kiev. I just wanted the convenience of going their without needing to apply for a visa all the time.

[PhotoSlider]

I just wanted to share my pathetic story of living in an American city...

Uki Female Power in your face!

Reminds me some of the movies with Latina. Ukrainian women behave very much like Blacks or Mexican / Latinas / Brazilian.

They must feel safe with you, Riina still. Girls got to have fun. Imagine them discussing what they want to do next with you, I'm sure they spoke about who'the be the most daring!

[Jonathan Pine]

Hi gents,

I'm wondering if anyone has ideas about how to marry a Ukrainian girl for immigration purpose. Do you know if there are such agencies that would help? I found one called Kirda Partners based in Lviv on the internet and the manager claimed they could help. But I am not sure if I should trust them. Should I turn to the agency or just talk to random girls to negotiate the deal? And also would the marriage process be complicated?

I want to migrate to Ukraine not only for ua pussies, but also for security of my property. In my home country the environment for business is terrible and private property is not well protected.

Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Anthony.

Brides are the number one export of Ukraine, the only thing worth something from Ukraine. Residency info shouldn't be too hard to find. Heck, I'll bet lot of guys on this board have married Ukrainian women.

[Jonathan Pine]

I just wanted to share my pathetic story of living in an American city where no fresh pussies are to be had for grown up guys. Even though I'm older, I still like to go out and very much enjoy dancing amongst hotties, especially young Ukrainians. I frequent a Euro club where almost half the club is Uki. I don't approach the girls anymore, my game is nonexistent. What's unique about the Ukrainians, is the visual excitement you can briefly see in their eyes towards me. As if we were in Ukraine, maybe we could meet behind closed doors. I'm an average looking dude, but I like to play the sugar daddy part with the nice clothes and suggestive presence. So over the last couple years, when a Uki girl gives me the "look", I track her down on VK or FB and simply send the " you are a beautiful girl" message. That makes me known to them the next time they see me in the club. The effect is these girls never miss the right opportunity to walk by me and rub themselves against me. This past weekend a group of three girls that all knew me, basically pummeled me passing to the dance floor. The first one rubbed her body and tits against me and the other two followed with elbows. Never had a three at once like that. I know this sounds like really stupid stuff, but I get rubbed all the time whenever I'm in the club. Their's clearly a feeling of connection with Ukrainians I don't even know. This doesn't happen with the other EE's like the Polish or Maldovians.

The point is imagine what can happen In Ukraine. Instead of cheap feels, we would be talking about real pussies to be had.

I think Ukrainian and Russian girls are attracted to different kind of men than American girls. Uki / Russians like men that are more mature, successful (your taste, style, class). You are probably their type so they notice you in clubs. They see you differently than American girls. I have the same experience as you.

American girls tend to be more attracted to football player type of men (jocks). But EE girls aren't attracted to this type.

[Riina]

I just wanted to share my pathetic story of living in an American city where no fresh pussies are to be had for grown up guys. Even though I'm older, I still like to go out and very much enjoy dancing amongst hotties, especially young Ukrainians. I frequent a Euro club where almost half the club is Uki. I don't approach the girls anymore, my game is nonexistent. What's unique about the Ukrainians, is the visual excitement you can briefly see in their eyes towards me. As if we were in Ukraine, maybe we could meet behind closed doors. I'm an average looking dude, but I like to play the sugar daddy part with the nice clothes and suggestive presence. So over the last couple years, when a Uki girl gives me the "look", I track her down on VK or FB and simply send the "you are a beautiful girl" message. That makes me known to them the next time they see me in the club. The effect is these girls never miss the right opportunity to walk by me and rub themselves against me. This past weekend a group of three girls that all knew me from sight, basically pummeled me passing to the dance floor. The first one firmly rubbed her body and tits against me and the other two friends followed with elbows. Never had three at once like that. I know this sounds like really stupid stuff, but I get discreetly rubbed all the time by the Ukrainians in the club. Their's clearly a cheap feeling of connection with girls I don't even know. This doesn't happen with the other EE's like the Polish.

The point is imagine what can happen In Ukraine. Instead of cheap feels, we would be talking about real pussies to be had.

[PhotoSlider]

I've heard that happens when they sense your marriage is a fraud.

How many wives are allowed by Ukrainian Law?

[Riina]

I married an Ukrainian, applied for permanent residency through my home Embassy. They pocketed the application fee, lost all the paperwork which cost several hundred dollars to get and finally ignored all communication when trying to chase it up. I eventually gave up.

I've heard that happens when they sense your marriage is a fraud.

[GDreams]

Hi gents,

I'm wondering if anyone has ideas about how to marry a Ukrainian girl for immigration purpose. Do you know if there are such agencies that would help? I found one called Kirda Partners based in Lviv on the internet and the manager claimed they could help. But I am not sure if I should trust them. Should I turn to the agency or just talk to random girls to negotiate the deal? And also would the marriage process be complicated?

I want to migrate to Ukraine not only for ua pussies, but also for security of my property. In my home country the environment for business is terrible and private property is not well protected.

Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Anthony.

I married an Ukrainian, applied for permanent residency through my home Embassy. They pocketed the application fee, lost all the paperwork which cost several hundred dollars to get and finally ignored all communication when trying to chase it up. I eventually gave up.

[Mmusic]

... I usually fuck 2 or 3 girls a day so, unless you plan to get laid hot hotel front desk girls, avoid hotel.
... Around 50 USD per day. Is threshold. Expensive when it is above, below. Still good.

Coyle,

Do you know if indeed in hotels (top ones, like 5* or 4*) are hanging around in lobby / lobby bar hot WG's, and in which hotels?

Or if any of other members with experience in Kiev can give this info?!

Some 6-7 years ago one of best experience I had in Marriott Bucharest. In bar while having glass. Two of wine around 9 - 9. 30 pm noted that there was several girls (as I was told later, even the hotel arrange & agree with selected ladies to be there! Bla bla bla, 1-2 drinks I offered to those two friends after the eye-contact (they made it as I was on my damn laptop and mails!) and black hair one at one point was straight: I'd like very much to be your company in your room for 2-3 hrs instead of going home!

Logical reasoning she had was "at 11 or 12 I can go only to home, with nothing, less couple of drinks" ! She stayed all night (on her initiative, and we killed during the night also whole bottle of red wine + eating) for what we agreed in lobby bar, if remember right was $300. Next day in afternoon her blond friend was so clear that on purpose she waited in lobby bar (during our drink together of course I said few things about me, why I'm there etc etc etc so she knew what and how to make her plan, but she was there also for chance to catch any other guest), for 1 hour session (but was near 2 hrs, not clock-watcher. Later that evening took them both to concert and we ended evening till 4-5 am in very long 3 some. And on 3rd night they instructed one their another friend to be in lobby bar. Stunning face, tall 180+ , but guess she left boobs at home or what?

[AntonySun1996]

Hi gents,

I'm wondering if anyone has ideas about how to marry a Ukrainian girl for immigration purpose. Do you know if there are such agencies that would help? I found one called Kirda Partners based in Lviv on the internet and the manager claimed they could help. But I am not sure if I should trust them. Should I turn to the agency or just talk to random girls to negotiate the deal? And also would the marriage process be complicated?

I want to migrate to Ukraine not only for ua pussies, but also for security of my property. In my home country the environment for business is terrible and private property is not well protected.

Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Anthony.