Kyiv

[Member #4722]

It sound like the mongering has been declining and they are begging for your business to return.

Not doubting your skills, but emptying our wallets are always their #1 priority.

Sounds like Ukraine closed borders to all foreigners now. Had a girl that I was very close to for the last four years. Started out she never asked me for anything and I sent her some money every now and then to help her because I genuinely cared. But she changed over the last year or so. Probably realized the power of her pussy and she became more manipulative. Then I caught her in a lie and broke it off. Have to laugh now as she is probably kicking herself for treating me badly now that she can't make money anymore.

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It sound like the mongering has been declining and they are begging for your business to return.

Not doubting your skills, but emptying our wallets are always their #1 priority.

Thank you. I am not the one to say that hot girls almost 40 years younger are attracted to me because I am smart and great-looking.

At least 5 of them were singing the same song since my departure in September, well before corona became a part of our life. I wouldn't say frequency of requests increased in my case. Doesn't matter. It should be judged not by me overseas, but by real researchers in the field.

Through the past year and a half 1 out of those 5 girls helped me to spend not nearly as much as I used to do for the last 20 years. Takes time but there are true diamonds in the rough to be found.

Surely without money, without the potential to make the lady's life better, I'd be pushed aside. Isn't it always the case? Why is it sometimes positioned as a flaw of character. Mine or my ladies?

[Ming69]

I am postponing for now pending rendezvous with Ukrainian beauties begging to get fucked.

It sound like the mongering has been declining and they are begging for your business to return.

Not doubting your skills, but emptying our wallets are always their #1 priority.

[AntonySun1996]

Does that make me the racist?

Does the fact that you prefer girls makes you ageist? Does the fact that you only have sex with female makes you homophobe?

-coronavirus. Yes, it is a problem, particularly if you are the type that meets with real pros. If a girl has had intimate contact with 5 men per day, or even 5 men per week, then the risk is high.

Staying away from the pros is a good idea. For those who still plan to meet them anyway, make sure to take measures to protect yourself during sex:

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5e3a5d359c807

[AntonySun1996]

I bet this occurs when they already have some other brain damage?

Not sure about this, sorry. Can't find the original source.

My point is people should take this epidemic more seriously because the long term effects of the covid19 virus on human body remain unknown. My city was among the cities with highest number of confirmed cases during 2003 SARS outbreak, with hundreds of people infected. Only about 10 people died, but less than half of the infected fully recovered. The rest patients were left with varying degrees of long-term health issues, some of which resulted from side effects of the treatment.

[Stevie69]

Hello,

I have been absent for a while, as I had something close to a girlfriend, but I am hoping to indulge again this year. I was checking the forum and noted a couple of trends:

- have the prices gone down? It seems many people are quoting prices starting at 1500. Yes, that is what I like to pay, up to about 2500, but previously I have had long discussions here with people to start at 200 or even 2500.

-I was visiting other places, and I have come to the conclusion that I only like to go downtown on girls who are young, clean, and elegant, but also preferably white, and particularly blondes. Does that make me the racist?

-the great thing about tinder in Ukraine is that girls actually reply! In my experience, most of them happen to be semi--pros. Soon enough they say "I only meet for money".

-coronavirus. Yes, it is a problem, particularly if you are the type that meets with real pros. If a girl has had intimate contact with 5 men per day, or even 5 men per week, then the risk is high. That is another reason why I have always preferred semi-pros, which I define as girls who use otherwise have jobs and use sex is to make ends meet, maybe once or twice per week, with regular customers. Still unsafe, but a little safer. I may have to wait a few months until it all passes.

-keep up the hard work!

I may have to wait a few months until it passes.

[YummyPL]

It seems reduced travel may already be having an effect. Girls on Mamba I have never met before but have been communicating with intermittently are now initiating communication asking when I will be arriving.

[Sorbonne]

A new study in China finds that the coronavirus can cause irreversible brain damage even if it is eventually cured.

I bet this occurs when they already have some other brain damage?

[AntonySun1996]

I tend not to believe statistical data from authoritarian regimes. Nothing personal, Antony. Thanks by the way for your honesty in stepping forward with sharing valuable information you have.

During Chernobyl disaster Soviet Government kept lying about the real situation. Same with the stats from China, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual number of new cases and deaths is still increasing. For two reasons: not all deaths are accounted for yet due to quarantine in effect, and also government needs good news internally and globally. At the same time authoritarian style may be beneficial in curtailing the spread of infection by disregarding basic rights and freedoms. Maybe indeed China took control.

In US for sure the genie is out of the bottle, and number of new cases as well as deaths is growing rapidly with no slowdown in view. Developing vaccine will take at least till August.

The problem is not only the high probability of contracting within close proximity, and not in the higher risk for elders or patients with compromised health. The bad news is fibrosis it causes in lungs. It seems less severe than with SARS, but not enough autopsy results have been published so far to call these observations representative.

I am postponing for now pending rendezvous with Ukrainian beauties begging to get fucked.

The Chinese were already aware that a new virus had begun to spread in early December 2019, but failed to warn the public until almost two month later. Some whistleblowers were illegally detained for "spreading rumours". I began to realize that the govt had been lying to us in early January, when new confirmed cases of coronavirus started emerging in surrounding countries, but not in Chinese cities other than Wuhan. Exactly like how the world found out the Soviet government was lying about Chernobyl accident when Sweden detected high level of radioactive contamination in their air. Our govt did the same thing during the 2003 SARS outbreak, withholding information and lying to the public until months later when it was too late.

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The spread has slowed down in China, but not in Europe. Number of confirmed cases has been rising fast in many countries. The death rate in Italy in particular is quite high, at 5%, compared to the global average of 3. 5%. The may suggest that there could be a lot of people were infected, but haven't been tested. I would say it is still not the time to relax.

I tend not to believe statistical data from authoritarian regimes. Nothing personal, Antony. Thanks by the way for your honesty in stepping forward with sharing valuable information you have.

During Chernobyl disaster Soviet Government kept lying about the real situation. Same with the stats from China, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual number of new cases and deaths is still increasing. For two reasons: not all deaths are accounted for yet due to quarantine in effect, and also government needs good news internally and globally. At the same time authoritarian style may be beneficial in curtailing the spread of infection by disregarding basic rights and freedoms. Maybe indeed China took control.

In US for sure the genie is out of the bottle, and number of new cases as well as deaths is growing rapidly with no slowdown in view. Developing vaccine will take at least till August.

The problem is not only the high probability of contracting within close proximity, and not in the higher risk for elders or patients with compromised health. The bad news is fibrosis it causes in lungs. It seems less severe than with SARS, but not enough autopsy results have been published so far to call these observations representative.

I am postponing for now pending rendezvous with Ukrainian beauties begging to get fucked.

[AntonySun1996]

Why should people wear masks?

Its most prevent infected people from spreading the virus and you need to use it correct and change it many times a day.

This is a very common misconception. Masks do not only prevent the infected from spreading the virus to others, they can help to protect healthy people from the virus as well. The masks can not keep you 100% safe, as the virus in the air could penetrate ordinary masks, but they are effective at capturing droplets, which is one of the main transmission routes of virus. There are studies proving that wearing masks properly could significantly reduce your chance of getting infected by virus in public places. However, it's true that wearing masks improperly could decrease their effectiveness, and could even backfire by increasing your chance of getting the virus. This is why people should be informed by the authorities of the correct ways of wearing masks, and how to properly dispose of them once they are used.

People should understand that not only the infected people have the need to wear masks. Two of my friends from China have been recently verbally abused in England by some locals because of their Asian appearance and the fact that they were wearing masks. This was ridiculous.

Only things that really help is washing hand and in general make sure all areas are cleaned, I notices the toilets in both business lounge and the normal one had a hard smell of Bleech, so they washing with Bleech which will kill the virus.

All Data right now also shown a Slowdown in the spreading, and death rate is falling.

Good hygiene definitely helps. Besides, regular exercise helps you build stronger immune system which could make the virus less deadlier to you.

All Data right now also shown a Slowdown in the spreading, and death rate is falling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:N..._ROW_cases.png

The spread has slowed down in China, but not in Europe. Number of confirmed cases has been rising fast in many countries. The death rate in Italy in particular is quite high, at 5%, compared to the global average of 3. 5%. The may suggest that there could be a lot of people were infected, but haven't been tested. I would say it is still not the time to relax.

[Hestendk]

I am from China, and I guess it falls into the category of high-risk countries. My city is quite far from Hubei Province though, and there were only a few confirmed cases in my province. My cities has been quarantined since late January, most public places were shut down, people were required

I am staying with my girlfriend and have no plans to meet other girls, so I suppose I am exposing myself to low risks if getting infected. However I still have to go to supermarkets, and the fact that no one here wears masks makes me confused.

Why should people wear masks?

Its most prevent infected people from spreading the virus and you need to use it correct and change it many times a day.

I today went from borispol and out.

I saw several with mask, I even saw 1 guy with mask then he went to the business lounge and laid down on a sofa and took the mask half off?

One other girl was with a mask also, she had her fingers playing with her mask for several minutes.

Things like that make them totally ineffective.

Only things that really help is washing hand and in general make sure all areas are cleaned, I notices the toilets in both business lounge and the normal one had a hard smell of Bleech, so they washing with Bleech which will kill the virus.

All Data right now also shown a Slowdown in the spreading, and death rate is falling.

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I came to Kiev on Feb 21 and transferred in Minsk. I was taken extra care of there obviously because of my nationality. I was stopped at passport control before boarding my flight to Kiev, was approached by a medical team. They asked my a lot of questions, checked my documents, tested my temperature, and took some of my saliva and nasal mucus. I barely made it to board my flight. I do not blame them, though. They were very professional and did a great job to protect their country and its people.

The process of entering Ukrainian boarder at Borispil was smooth. No queues, no medical checks, no extra questions.

Perhaps this is somewhat similar to security checks for flights from Canada to US. Everything is checked at the large Canadian airport, like Toronto YYZ Pearson and others. Or Israeli El Al staff performs strict searches and questioning still in US before boarding the flight on route to Ben-Gurion / Tel Aviv.

Same with your flight from Moscow to Minsk to Kiev. Ukrainian airlines may rely on medical procedures performed and documented in Minsk.

I still think that all the global traffic is too relaxed at the moment. And that's fucked up.

[AntonySun1996]

Are you flying to KBP from a high-risk country?

I was in Kyiv from Feb. 17 - 22 - obviously no checks at that time as it was before the cases in Italy.

But I did notice that when I was fly from Barcelona to the USA on Feb. 26 they did ask many questions about my travels and others. Maybe it's a thing the US mandated.

I am from China, and I guess it falls into the category of high-risk countries. My city is quite far from Hubei Province though, and there were only a few confirmed cases in my province. My cities has been quarantined since late January, most public places were shut down, people were required to stay at home as much as possible, and number of flights and trains to other cities was significantly reduced. So I stayed at home basically doing nothing for weeks before I decided to make a trip to Kiev.

I first flew to Moscow from Shanghai, and stayed there for a few days. We were temp checked on our Aeroflot flight upon arrival. There was a large medical team at Sheremetyevo Airport waiting for us. Got health checked there by the friendly staff, signed some Terms & Conditions, and I was allowed to enter the border. I was luck, because a few days later the Russian government decided to temporarily forbid Chinese citizens to enter Russia on tourist visas.

I came to Kiev on Feb 21 and transferred in Minsk. I was taken extra care of there obviously because of my nationality. I was stopped at passport control before boarding my flight to Kiev, was approached by a medical team. They asked my a lot of questions, checked my documents, tested my temperature, and took some of my saliva and nasal mucus. I barely made it to board my flight. I do not blame them, though. They were very professional and did a great job to protect their country and its people.

The process of entering Ukrainian boarder at Borispil was smooth. No queues, no medical checks, no extra questions.

I was in Kyiv from Feb. 17 - 22 - obviously no checks at that time as it was before the cases in Italy.

But I did notice that when I was fly from Barcelona to the USA on Feb. 26 they did ask many questions about my travels and others. Maybe it's a thing the US mandated.

Stay safe bro. It seems that the disease has begun to spread in Europe quite fast. I feel really sorry that our people has caused so much trouble to the rest of the world.

I was not aggressive on trying to meet girls given the virus. Definitely did not have the full experience and will go there again.

Wise decision. Safety should be our top priority in Kiev at the moment. Avoid meeting new girls, or keep them at minimum at least, and avoid kissing them.

I am staying with my girlfriend and have no plans to meet other girls, so I suppose I am exposing myself to low risks if getting infected. However I still have to go to supermarkets, and the fact that no one here wears masks makes me confused.

It's a very beautiful city and a lot cheaper than other EU places without losing quality; younger people will speak some English as they reckon Russian is not the only language they should know.

In terms of quality of the ladies, it's really a thing with personal preference. I really don't see anything too special or outstanding for the most part. Cost will definitely bring me back again.

I do notice that younger girls are covered with tattoos, girls who have done some work are having implants and lip injections. Which is confusing for me as they are better without them.

There have been ongoing debates of whether Kiev is a good destination for mongering, but I'm a big believer of patience and hard work. You will find real gems if you try hard enough.

I have no problem with tattoos in most cases, but silicon implants could be a huge turn-off for me.

Was there an age poll on this site? Everybody's talking like "OGs" who's been doing this for decades. Haha.

I don't think there was. I am 23 and just started my mongering career a few years ago! Learned a lot from the veterans and have great respect for them.

[Ming69]

Yes there seems to be a significant decrease in travellers to Kiev from my observation at Borispil Airport. No long queues at passport control when I arrived there late February.

Are you flying to KBP from a high-risk country?

I was in Kyiv from Feb. 17 - 22 - obviously no checks at that time as it was before the cases in Italy.

But I did notice that when I was fly from Barcelona to the USA on Feb. 26 they did ask many questions about my travels and others. Maybe it's a thing the US mandated.

I spend most of my time with my Ukrainian contact for the 5 days I was in Kyiv and got hooked up with some girls when she was not available. Pick up some contacts for those I like.

I was not aggressive on trying to meet girls given the virus. Definitely did not have the full experience and will go there again.

It's a very beautiful city and a lot cheaper than other EU places without losing quality; younger people will speak some English as they reckon Russian is not the only language they should know.

In terms of quality of the ladies, it's really a thing with personal preference. I really don't see anything too special or outstanding for the most part. Cost will definitely bring me back again.

I do notice that younger girls are covered with tattoos, girls who have done some work are having implants and lip injections. Which is confusing for me as they are better without them.

Was there an age poll on this site? Everybody's talking like "OGs" who's been doing this for decades. Haha.