Kyiv

[Jelly Donut]

Can anyone give recommendations were the Kiev streetwalkers are walking the streets.

Thanks friends.

There are not too many posts on streetwalkers on this thread. Many of them are a few years old. Often they point out that the street-walking scene in Kiev is comparatively weak.

That said, people have recommended the McDonalds near Gidropark. A couple of people mentioned the bridge near the Hydropark as well. Forum members have pointed to Shevcheko Blvd either at the top of the hill or toward the bottom, depending on who posted the report. Some people have had success on Khreshatic. "Every evening on Khreschatyk St. There were girls to be found". While credible members have also mentioned the police aim to keep working girls off that street. "All those cops you saw, they are there to keep working girls and drunks off Khreshatic. " A couple of posters mentioned the area around the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute and the Kiev Zoo "after passing the 'Victory Avenue' once you past the Shevchenko blvd".

Some travelers have had luck asking a taxi driver to just take them to find street girls.

As you would expect, winter is not a great time to find streetwalkers, you may not have the best luck outside of summer. It seems like many of the places mentioned are not good till around midnight.

As mentioned, nearly all details on street girls on this thread is over a year old and, given recent history, it's likely some of the advice given in the past may no longer hold up today. One poster a few years back suggested Independence Square itself was a good spot to find girls; I'm not sure that would hold up today. In general, reading the posts here, street-walking scene in Kiev is not considered that great. "I wouldn't bother with streetwalkers in Kiev". Often people asking about it are encouraged to check out other options.

[Mad Mad]

Can anyone give recommendations were the Kiev streetwalkers are walking the streets.

Thanks friends.

[How14]

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[How14]

Thanks for the helpful info on Kiev. I'm not a lazy guy, and I enjoy learning about new cultures and languages. I speak 3 different languages myself, so I can add some Russian to the list, well at least some simple words / phrases to show I'm genuinely interested in their country and culture. I'm not the wham and bam monger that tries to cram as much pussy a day as possible. I like to hang out and get to know the girl because it makes for a better experience and connection. A good sense of humor is easily translatable in any culture, so that's my way in. Doesn't always happen that way but it usually does. I've read that there are plenty of girls that can speak ok / decent English, so I might go that route.

Thanks for the Thailand tip, but I like to go to the source rather than to a place that imports the girls I want. Plus, this is as much about mongering as it is discovering a whole new culture / experience far away from home. I will def do my homework as I enjoy the process as much as the end result. I just have to make a decision on summer '15 or wait till next year.

Agree with what you say about seeing girls in there native country, the Russian / Ukrainian girls I seen in Bangkok were in a hotel where the 7th floor was dedicated to Russian girls, maybe 20 girls, you walk down the corridor and the doors are all open, you go in and check the girls, but very disappointing. If I were you with the rate being what it is, go now, no point to wait till 2016 who knows what's round the corner. Get in now, fill your boots.

[How14]

I disagree to a certain extent. I have had real relationships with a few women from these parts back in the States. Also, as a younger businessman with extensive travel experiences, Eastern Europe has major differences depending on where you go, IMHO.

I'm generalizing here:

Russian = Can be very racist. Attacks have been known to occur at public places. Still, I don't believe this is as common as people fear.

Belarus = Not racist or really xenophobic, but as a country that hasn't been exposed to a lot of foreigners, they tend to stick to what's familiar.

Ukraine = Very used to foreigners by now, especially when we are talking about Kiev and the major cities.

For the countries mentioned, their citizens are able to travel to most of Asia freely. They are used to the people and culture. Moreover, Japanese businessmen are everywhere in Kiev.

If anything, Turkish people are by far and away the most disliked group of people here. Then it's a toss-up between Indians, Africans and Uzbeks / Tadjiks...

No point to go to Thailand to fuck Russians, its $150 an hour to do them, and they are not particularly attractive. If you want Russian / Ukrainian girls, then its better to be there in Russia / Ukraine.

[Himself]

That is significant news, guys. The price in USD has remained the same, but there is a significant lag in time for the adjustment of the prices in UAH to reflect the current exchange rate. I wonder if the same phenomenon is the case in the other strip clubs that had higher prices for take out that Rio. If the prices in UAH are lagging, one might be able to do take out from those other strip clubs too at a reduced price. For example, the Dolls strip club which historically had a take out price of $300 for only two hours, which was a higher per hour rate ($150/ HR USD) than Rio's rate of $300/3 hours ($100/ HR USD). What is the price for take out in UAH at the Dolls club, or the other even higher priced strip clubs, which did have some awesome looking hotties dancing at them?

You have noted an upward change in price in UAH during the course of just a few days, so it isn't possible to predict for how long these bargains will last into the future. But it's a clear bargain for now as long as you make sure to only pay for services in Ukrainian hryvna (UAH)! I note that this is for a local product / service such as Ukrainian pussy, and may not be the case for imported goods. LOL.

Strip clubs have historically been among the higher priced options in Kiev, as it has long been reported as possible to get P4P girls in the regular nightclubs like Shooters etc for $100 to $150 USD for an hour or two hours or maybe more. In the past that meant giving about 800 UAH (which was $100) to 1200 UAH (which was $150). So the question is, in the nightclubs is it still possible to find girls who will accept 800 UAH or 1000 UAH or 1200 UAH, which today have a value of only one--third of what they used to be worth, which means that even a 1200 UAH / hour girl, who used to be asking $150 USD, is now getting only $50 from you when she receives the 1200 UAH. So what are the current prices in UAH for P4P in the nightclubs nowadays?

Thanks guys.

There is indeed a lot of confusion around the exchange rate. I am regular in Odessa (do not know what the situation in Kiev is) but for before going rate for 1. 5 - 2. 5 hours with a pro from Mamba who will visit you was 800 grn plus taxi which with the old exchange rate (8 grn=1 usd) was about 100 USD. Girls are still available for 800 grn but other are requesting the same 100 USD which is now about 2,400 grn. I guess the girls are still asking the 800 grn as local mongers are not paying in USD.

Odessa really became a cheap place to visit but maybe it will change soon as the restaurants, hotels, clubs and girls get their prices adjusted to the new realities. Just take a look at booking. Com to see how cheap you can get a hotel room in some hotels but others got a lot more expensive. I was in my favorite restaurant on a Monday and they never adjusted the prices in the menu meaning that I got a starter, big steak and chesecake plus 2 beers and coffee for 440 grn which is as little as 14 USD (a few weeks ago the exchange rate was 30 grn=1 usd but now dropped to abiut 24 grn=1 usd) as this was a really bargain I came again the next day but now there was a menu card with adjusted prices and whilst my favorite steak was 220 grn before it was 600 grn.

I see that the prices in the bars and clubs are about the same BUT imported alcohol is the triple price now in grn but about the same as before when counting in USD.

A few words about the clubs in Arkadia and the forthcoming summer: It is true as Crimea is gone Odessa is the only really beach resort in Ukraine now. However, a large part of the visitors were from Russia (and some of them girls who where looking for financing of their parties and vacation in return of services) and I think there will not be many Russians visiting this year.

Another point: Security. It is really a good time to visit Ukraine as you can get a good bargain due to the fluctuation in the exchange rates BUT security is a real issue. In Odessa bombs are maybe not "common" but at least weekly events, political active peoples apartments, army recruitment offices, cargo trains and also the branches of "PrivatBank" is a target (The owner of PrivatBank is a rich man running his own army fighting against the rebels in the East to regain control over his coalmines.) and most scary for me was one time about a month ago when I was leaving and waiting in the airport and suddenly we were evacuated from the terminal as a suspicious device was found. F. Hell. It turned out to be a real bomb but it was placed at one of the private jets always parked on the field and also belonging to one of the olegags. Security is an issue to think about.

[TheWhatever]

What is the best hotel: Dnipro or Rus hotel?

I am searching for an hotel which will not ask for 'security' $$ to pass a girl in my room as I will most probably invite a Mamba girl to my room.

And if possible a bar where I could pick up a girl in case I am tired to search the last 2 days in the streets or internet.

The 30 to 40 $ per night is a very good deal, if you know other hotels with better girls and no annoyances from bringing external girls just tell me.

[OwaRunner]

Strip clubs have historically been among the higher priced options in Kiev, as it has long been reported as possible to get P4P girls in the regular nightclubs like Shooters etc for $100 to $150 USD for an hour or two hours or maybe more. In the past that meant giving about 800 UAH (which was $100) to 1200 UAH (which was $150). So the question is, in the nightclubs is it still possible to find girls who will accept 800 UAH or 1000 UAH or 1200 UAH, which today have a value of only one--third of what they used to be worth, which means that even a 1200 UAH / hour girl, who used to be asking $150 USD, is now getting only $50 from you when she receives the 1200 UAH. So what are the current prices in UAH for P4P in the nightclubs nowadays?

Thanks guys.

Was there any change in the number of girls?

BR.

Owarunner.

[Reiner Otto]

Haven't been in UA for about 1. 5 years, since giving up my "office-appartment". Went to TH several (long-) times instead.

Tempted to return for some time to southern UA because of exchange rate. But nothing definitive, yet.

[AColonizer]

I was quickly reading this thread and I read your post: I agree with you even if I haven't stayed in Odessa yet and also I know Odessa area has one of most high rate of HIV. Since I don't consider sex what is doing with a condom, what is your behavior for getting real sex with lower risks?

Students are in mood for drinking and party in the bars and discos, because end of school / university on 30-June.

Sponsors welcome.

Pick up the more-or-less pros on Kreshatik, close to Mc Donalds. You only need to sit on one of the benches: They will find you.

Personally, I like the discos or bars, to pick up freelancers. Or freebees, in case of luck. Although they also expect "presents".

Depending upon the time to spend, last 2 weeks of June in Kiev, and then 2 weeks in Odessa/Arkadia.
Best: You pick up a student in Kiev, and take her to Arkadia. She will appreciate it !!!!!
(Girls in Arkadia are terrific ! But they know it themselves, and suck your $$$$$$ very often).

[Gergiev]

In Arkadia, my favourite was "Itaka". Other prefer "Ibiza". These are the places in July / August, where you find the most beautiful girls in UA.

But not to forget: Many of them already have well-off "sponsors". Although some pros around, too.
In the past, during this time quite a lot of foreigners in Odessa. This might be different this year, because of political reasons.
And, because of Crimea now "off limits", Odessa might be even busier with locals during summer time.
I start to think .... <grin>

Hallo RO,

Good to see you back here - or 'wieder da', if you like!

Do you still visit Ukraine?

I think you wrote some time ago that you sold your property in the south?

JG.

[LilJoey]

Apollo,

Is 6000 UAH the Rio club's new rate for taking a girl out for three hours? I was wondering what they would do and whether they would adjust their prices upwards. Their rate was $300 USD / three hours for several years. Now if their rate is 6000 UAH, that is about $250 USD in today's exchange rate. That means the price has gone down from $300 USD to $250 USD for three hours. Please confirm the amount of the take out fee and the time period for that fee at Rio. Thanks.

They told me 6000 OR 300 $.

When I went to Rio on March 7, it was 5000 UAH (215 USD! with the exchange rate of that day) for 3 hours. I was very excited. I took out girls twice for this price.

Then only a few days later, it went up to 6000 UAH. I took out girls twice also for this price. Still much less than 300 USD, but my excitement was gone.

But, as far as I can see, 3 hours is hardly enforced lately. All but one of the four times they stayed about 5 hours. That's 43 USD per hour on March 7.

That is significant news, guys. The price in USD has remained the same, but there is a significant lag in time for the adjustment of the prices in UAH to reflect the current exchange rate. I wonder if the same phenomenon is the case in the other strip clubs that had higher prices for take out that Rio. If the prices in UAH are lagging, one might be able to do take out from those other strip clubs too at a reduced price. For example, the Dolls strip club which historically had a take out price of $300 for only two hours, which was a higher per hour rate ($150/ HR USD) than Rio's rate of $300/3 hours ($100/ HR USD). What is the price for take out in UAH at the Dolls club, or the other even higher priced strip clubs, which did have some awesome looking hotties dancing at them?

You have noted an upward change in price in UAH during the course of just a few days, so it isn't possible to predict for how long these bargains will last into the future. But it's a clear bargain for now as long as you make sure to only pay for services in Ukrainian hryvna (UAH)! I note that this is for a local product / service such as Ukrainian pussy, and may not be the case for imported goods. LOL.

Strip clubs have historically been among the higher priced options in Kiev, as it has long been reported as possible to get P4P girls in the regular nightclubs like Shooters etc for $100 to $150 USD for an hour or two hours or maybe more. In the past that meant giving about 800 UAH (which was $100) to 1200 UAH (which was $150). So the question is, in the nightclubs is it still possible to find girls who will accept 800 UAH or 1000 UAH or 1200 UAH, which today have a value of only one--third of what they used to be worth, which means that even a 1200 UAH / hour girl, who used to be asking $150 USD, is now getting only $50 from you when she receives the 1200 UAH. So what are the current prices in UAH for P4P in the nightclubs nowadays?

Thanks guys.

[Reiner Otto]

May I further ask you a question for clarification?
"The "leechers" will suck all your $$ just partying and promising. But no shot. ".
What do they promise? Promise or suggest to have sex? And they eventually don't let you to? Is this what you are saying here?

More or less: Yes.

(Not talking about pros, but the girls giving you hints, to be available later on).

[Sorbonne]

The "leechers" will suck all your $$ just partying and promising. But no shot.

Just google for "Odessa Arkadia". And you will see. Also check on youtube. Arkadia is the outdoor scene, at the beach, during June / July / August / Sept. At night, super discos or bars, during daytime

like cafes, with private beach.

Cheap accomodation in Odessa during July / August might be difficult to find, though. Better try to book a hotel on the web in case of Juyly/August.

Ukrainians say: "It is easy to get a girl in Odessa. But difficult, to keep ".

In Arkadia, my favourite was "Itaka". Other prefer "Ibiza". These are the places in July / August, where you find the most beautiful girls in UA.

But not to forget: Many of them already have well-off "sponsors". Although some pros around, too.
In the past, during this time quite a lot of foreigners in Odessa. This might be different this year, because of political reasons.
And, because of Crimea now "off limits", Odessa might be even busier with locals during summer time.
I start to think .... <grin>

May I further ask you a question for clarification?

"The "leechers" will suck all your $$ just partying and promising. But no shot. ".

What do they promise? Promise or suggest to have sex? And they eventually don't let you to? Is this what you are saying here?

Thanks.

[Sorbonne]

Apollo,

Is 6000 UAH the Rio club's new rate for taking a girl out for three hours? I was wondering what they would do and whether they would adjust their prices upwards. Their rate was $300 USD / three hours for several years. Now if their rate is 6000 UAH, that is about $250 USD in today's exchange rate. That means the price has gone down from $300 USD to $250 USD for three hours. Please confirm the amount of the take out fee and the time period for that fee at Rio. Thanks.

From what I see, the rates on the escort websites like top-modals.com etc. Have not changed much, despite the decrease in value of the Ukraunian hryvna.

When I went to Rio on March 7, it was 5000 UAH (215 USD! with the exchange rate of that day) for 3 hours. I was very excited. I took out girls twice for this price.

Then only a few days later, it went up to 6000 UAH. I took out girls twice also for this price. Still much less than 300 USD, but my excitement was gone.

But, as far as I can see, 3 hours is hardly enforced lately. All but one of the four times they stayed about 5 hours. That's 43 USD per hour on March 7.