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  1. #21848

    First time thinking about visiting Kiev

    Hello everyone,

    So I was thinking about visiting Kiev however, I was wondering if it is overhyped. I live in Germany, where brothels are abundant and decently priced. Is Kiev worth the trip over, and are the quality of women and price worth the trip? I was thinking of other places (Tallinn and Prague) but was wondering if Kiev is any better.

  2. #21847
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    Problem in princess is that cabins were private dances are done, look so dark, then you cannot enjoy the view of the girl, also some girls said me there are cameras in this cabins.
    Agree. Another problem is that the most good looking girls (cheer-leadres) will not be available for take out. However overall. Visiting Princes was a pleasant surprise for me as they've gotten much better under new management (used to be a shit-hole few years ago).

  3. #21846
    Quote Originally Posted by GetsZa  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am back in Kiev the 2nd time. I had quite a few salon contacts the last time I was here in December 2020. However all the numbers are changed. Can anyone provide me with some new numbers or point me in the direction of a website I can find it. Thanks. I prefer salons than strip club because its easier to choose the girls.
    Most of them simply shut down or relocated. Grab a driver by arena. He'll take you there. Do not look for anything cheaper than $100 cause everything else it's just a waist of time. (depending on your preferences of cause).

  4. #21845
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    In the last 2 weeks, 2 people have texted me asking me for help finding girls in Kiev. Kiev has sucked for many years, please read my reports.

    Others lie and claim Kiev is this paradise. Kiev is very average at best.

    The guys that lie and exaggerate should be ashamed of themselves.
    Unfortunately. Have to agree with DramaFree11 statement. 80% I should say. I Just came back from another business travel to Ukraine)) Visited Kiev, Lviv and Odessa. Kiev. Not much difference from my prior reports back in June. So there is nothing to add. The only good time I've had is with my old contacts whom I've known for years and who will not be visiting me for less than $200 added 1 new girl to my list. Extremely pretty but the damage is $500 (it's all worth it comparing to prices in New York). Odessa is booming, but not for mongers. Hundreds of pretty girls but not for sale. I've spent 7 nights in Odessa and only had sex 2 times. 1 from Mamba for $300 (a cute girl from Kharkiv) and 1 my old contact from Kiev who had happen to be in Odessa at that time. I mean there are some working apartments and MP in Odessa but the quality of girls is far below average. Take out available in few Strip clubs for $300 but not for the best girls. Arkadia and other noisy places are full of scam. Lviv. Don't have any comments here. My suggestion for mongers just stay away or be ready to spend big $$$ . I mean some guys may get lucky to get a pretty college student or a sexy soccer mom for 2000 UAH. Well, it may take years for you to find one)) I mean I don't want to discourage you from from visiting Kiev or any other places in Ukraine. I just want you to be realistic about what you can get for your bucks. And yes I do believe in "Cinderella" story but most likely she will be average looking. All good looking "Cinderellas" are normally not for sale or charging you $300 +++ per hour.

  5. #21844
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I've had 3 different girls that were nothing special quote exactly a $500 rate recently. It makes me wonder where they are getting this.
    Not from us at least!

  6. #21843
    Quote Originally Posted by VinDici  [View Original Post]
    Negotiating a price and not paying a highly inflated price are two different things, know what the going rate is for the market and make decisions from there. For example, I was recently quoted $500 from a Mamba MILF in Kyiv, I laughed in her face and blocked her.
    I've had 3 different girls that were nothing special quote exactly a $500 rate recently. It makes me wonder where they are getting this.

  7. #21842
    Quote Originally Posted by Souless1  [View Original Post]
    Do you think I should re-negotiate? (I mean in this case, I think she made a consequent amount of money in Paris, so if I push too much I kind of fear she just cancel everything).

    (I posted here since this thread seems to be most active one related to Ukraine).
    Take this advice from an experienced monger:

    Don't negotiate too hard on price, if you're not prepared to pay the asking price, just move on, there are 100's of other girls just as good and perhaps better to be found.

    What often happens when you negotiate down the price is that the escort will likely be somewhat bitter going in to the meet, you'll end up paying the money and having a shit time. A lose-lose situation (for you).

    There are many excellent girls to be rented in Kyiv, I suggest that you come and check out the scene.

    Negotiating a price and not paying a highly inflated price are two different things, know what the going rate is for the market and make decisions from there. For example, I was recently quoted $500 from a Mamba MILF in Kyiv, I laughed in her face and blocked her.

  8. #21841
    Quote Originally Posted by Souless1  [View Original Post]
    so if I push too much I kind of fear she just cancel everything).
    You need to stop thinking like this. If she just cancels everything, you save €3000 plus your time and energy, she gets nothing. €3000 is good money in both France and Ukraine. Assuming you are not abusive, you are the prize, not some pussy attached to a pretty face and young body (and maybe a brain with something interesting to say). You can look at pretty faces for free anywhere, young bodies neither rare nor expensive to rent and roughly 50% of the population has a pussy, so pussies are definitely not rare.

  9. #21840
    Quote Originally Posted by Souless1  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    First message here!

    I have been reading a bit for the past few days (still missing last 40 pages, but information was really interesting so far).

    To make story short, I was virgin until recently and met a Ukrainian escort in Paris a month ago. She worked with an agency, and the hourly rate was 250 e (not cheap: the, from what I know from another French monger this agency should take at least a 50% cut). But I was kind of hooked, and I proposed to see her for 1 week for 3 Ke in her city (Odessa), and she accepted. After having read what you guys wrote, I now think perhaps I should have asked for more.

    Do you think I should re-negotiate? (I mean in this case, I think she made a consequent amount of money in Paris, so if I push too much I kind of fear she just cancel everything).

    (I posted here since this thread seems to be most active one related to Ukraine).
    I don't know if you read after of before offering this money, but you are just an idiot, maybe a rich idiot. Medium salary in Kiev is 600 $ per month, and less in Odessa. You offered her 5 months of income.

    Of course if you try to renegotiate now she must kick you out, but once more you are wrong for this amount of money.

    For 3 k I can fly to Kiev, rent an apartment in city center for 2 weeks and find a lot of girls. Non professional, beginning of 20's ask around 50-80€/ h. You can have a lot, and a pizza in Kiev costs 3€.

    For 250 in Paris I don't think the girl swallowed or allowed anal. A full course is more 400-500 with such girl.

  10. #21839
    So, after having read the more recent pages, I came to the conclusion, my price was probably fair given economic change happening in Ukraine. (Also I don't really want to come as cheap).

  11. #21838

    Arrangement

    Hi guys,

    First message here!

    I have been reading a bit for the past few days (still missing last 40 pages, but information was really interesting so far).

    To make story short, I was virgin until recently and met a Ukrainian escort in Paris a month ago. She worked with an agency, and the hourly rate was 250 e (not cheap: the, from what I know from another French monger this agency should take at least a 50% cut). But I was kind of hooked, and I proposed to see her for 1 week for 3 Ke in her city (Odessa), and she accepted. After having read what you guys wrote, I now think perhaps I should have asked for more.

    Do you think I should re-negotiate? (I mean in this case, I think she made a consequent amount of money in Paris, so if I push too much I kind of fear she just cancel everything).

    (I posted here since this thread seems to be most active one related to Ukraine).

  12. #21837
    Quote Originally Posted by Rog123  [View Original Post]
    I always direct them to the furthest room in the back. It has very nice lighting and an S&M setup.
    So if you slap the girl on the ass there, would the management object? I mean slap her lovingly, but maybe noticeably loud, so that her beautiful derriere would have a little more intense shade of pink than usual when both of you leave.

  13. #21836
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    Problem in princess is that cabins were private dances are done, look so dark, then you cannot enjoy the view of the girl, also some girls said me there are cameras in this cabins.
    I always direct them to the furthest room in the back. It has very nice lighting and an S&M setup.

  14. #21835
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    In the last 2 weeks, 2 people have texted me asking me for help finding girls in Kiev. Kiev has sucked for many years, please read my reports.

    Others lie and claim Kiev is this paradise. Kiev is very average at best.

    The guys that lie and exaggerate should be ashamed of themselves.
    Why would anyone ask you for contacts in Kyiv when you haven't been there in about 10 years LOL.

  15. #21834
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringudor  [View Original Post]
    Problem in princess is that cabins were private dances are done, look so dark, then you cannot enjoy the view of the girl, also some girls said me there are cameras in this cabins.
    I did a few privates a few weeks ago, with a slim, short dark air, girl from this club.

    That's right, light is not perfect but I've experienced in other clubs smaller and less comfortable places for private.

    A good point, the girl can choose the songs, and girls are performing well even in private.

    I was not sure if the girl wanted / could be touched during the dances, it was she who came to get my hands to put them on her.

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