Kyiv

[Riina]

In any case I seriously hope that this is not the beginning of the end for OUR Kiev as we know it.

The quality girls that are serious about selling their pussy would have no reason to prostitute themselves in their own poor country. They can now easily establish reputations and relationships in Western cities.

[Jojosun]

Well, I know they like warmer countries like Italy or Spain but should also know the state of economy there. So maybe Germany?

But it is actually illegal for German employers in the industry to hire them, as the industry is legal and regulated in Germany. I wonder how this is going to play out.

In any case I seriously hope that this is not the beginning of the end for OUR Kiev as we know it.

Getting away from Kiev cheaply will be a another deciding factor.

Looking at a budget carrier such as https://wizzair.com/#/ it already flies to 5 cities in Germany.

For pros and semi pros the prices for sex in Germany is low so its not very tempting unless mongers there want a change from Romanian and Bulgarian girls dominating the FKK Scene there, but like you said UA girls won't be able to work there legally as its regulated.

If the UK was a member of the Schingen zone,. UA girls and pimps would've flooded London much in the same way as Poles and Romanians did since their. Countries joined the EU with no restrictions on visas and Work including Prostitution which is legal in the UK.

Brexit will end it within 2 years with less supply and higher prices for sex in London.

Cheers.

[Sorbonne]

Where do guys think they are most likely to work? Italy Spain?

Well, I know they like warmer countries like Italy or Spain but should also know the state of economy there. So maybe Germany?

But it is actually illegal for German employers in the industry to hire them, as the industry is legal and regulated in Germany. I wonder how this is going to play out.

In any case I seriously hope that this is not the beginning of the end for OUR Kiev as we know it.

[Sorbonne]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7462631.html

Bad news for mongers.

Ukrainian chicks will go EU easier.

Now the price / efficiency ratio will be higher. Quality will be decrease.

"Under the deal, visa requirements may be reintroduced if there is a surge of citizens from a non-EU country such as Ukraine or Georgia staying irregularly in EU territory. ".

This makes it sound like the deal would make the girls to think it's better to go west ASAP before the visa requirements are reintroduced!

[Riina]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7462631.html

Bad news for mongers.

Ukrainian chicks will go EU easier.

Now the price / efficiency ratio will be higher. Quality will be decrease.

Where do guys think they are most likely to work? Italy Spain?

[EnricoMacias]

I did not search anything on the street because there are thousands of Arabs, Egyptian, Turks are already staring girls and stopping them.

That time I realized that the best girls of Ukraine are taken by local rich people. The remaining best girls are travelling to dubai, France, Maldives as a suitcase of a rich Arab, or European thanks to social media like Instagram.

The ones that we are chatting are the rest and most probably the worst of the product.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7462631.html

Bad news for mongers.

Ukrainian chicks will go EU easier.

Now the price / efficiency ratio will be higher. Quality will be decrease.

[Volpone]

How was that new one? .

BTW, it is very important to collect phone numbers from every girl and soon you can find out who is managing an agency with fake profiles.

I got her phone number and I could talk with her on Viber. So she agreed to come to my place at 6 pm. Guess what, she never came and she never explained why she changed her mind. It could not be the price as we never talked about it. Some non-pros do that, they don't want to talk about price. So I just called a girl among my contacts and I had a good time for a good price.

I am happy to have some old contacts, otherwise I could wank or going to a massage salon.

[BellBottomsDJ]

It did happen to me once. You should avoid to copy / paste the same message to every girl too quickly. Have some various intro and use the girl name to start with.

Avoid to mention sex and money too quickly. Let them come forward, don't use "sex", "USD", etc but maybe "s ex" or "franklin".

If you harass the girls they easily block you and report you which will translate in banning.

Overall this means you need to spend months to prepare your trip. It does pay off.

Too beautiful pics should ring a bell and typically they offer everything in their profiles which probably means it is an agency running the profile.

It takes time.

Yes, that is exactly what triggered it the first time I was blocked! Sending copy paste. I had to email them and explain "there are only so many different ways I can introduce myself and that copy / paste shouldn't get me blocked". That was the first time. The second was due to sexual propositions and now they directly told me "no" . Anyone know how to change an IP address? Haha. I'm pretty much banned for life I would imagine.

Are the agencies all "$500 an hour" waste of time crap?

[Tits_Lover]

I might get one new fresh amateur student girl tonight. Let's see if I will get a new one or if I still have to call my old ones.

How was that new one? .

BTW, it is very important to collect phone numbers from every girl and soon you can find out who is managing an agency with fake profiles.

[Tits_Lover]

The issue I have run into on Mamba is getting blacked for discussing sexual proposal. I see everyone on here talking about spending months and months on this site drumming up women, but the moment I sent 3 repeat messages, they blocked my IP address. I finally got them to unblock it, but a few days later they blocked it again and refused to unblock it. I don't get how the women can throw prices and tell you they are hooking, but I get blocked for it. Anyone else have this issue?

It did happen to me once. You should avoid to copy / paste the same message to every girl too quickly. Have some various intro and use the girl name to start with.

Avoid to mention sex and money too quickly. Let them come forward, don't use "sex", "USD", etc but maybe "s ex" or "franklin".

If you harass the girls they easily block you and report you which will translate in banning.

Overall this means you need to spend months to prepare your trip. It does pay off.

Too beautiful pics should ring a bell and typically they offer everything in their profiles which probably means it is an agency running the profile.

It takes time.

[BellBottomsDJ]

Same here. They took my $20 and they blocked me also. They said I was sending too many messages. WTF? It is "dating" site. The point is to send messages. They would not unblock me or the IP address. Next time I have to use a VPN.

I tried a few VPNs and I could not get the site to view properly. Mostly the images would not show. If you figure it out, share. I would like to know. I venture the to say the owners of the site aren't the most ethical if they are taking peoples money any blocking them for messages. I'm not a fan of Mamba at this point.

[Vitrea]

As I wrote I've got my old ones, my old contacts, it means about 10-15 girls that I can get for a good price.

I totally agree with you, coming here for 1 or 2 weeks, it's wasting time. Better to go to Germany or to Spain or to Thailand as you say.

Valpone, Where in Spain? I have done Spain a few times. It was hit or miss for me.

[Vitrea]

The issue I have run into on Mamba is getting blacked for discussing sexual proposal. I see everyone on here talking about spending months and months on this site drumming up women, but the moment I sent 3 repeat messages, they blocked my IP address. I finally got them to unblock it, but a few days later they blocked it again and refused to unblock it. I don't get how the women can throw prices and tell you they are hooking, but I get blocked for it. Anyone else have this issue?

Same here. They took my $20 and they blocked me also. They said I was sending too many messages. WTF? It is "dating" site. The point is to send messages. They would not unblock me or the IP address. Next time I have to use a VPN.

[Volpone]

In mamba 100 dollar and more are asked by semi pro in most cases if they not like your profile or your photos.

Personally I have never paid more than 50 dollar for medium quality to good quality. Sure if you look for the top profile they will ask you much more than 100 dollar.

People in my opinion don't realize that's even if Kiev is poor and gryvna is worth nothing, in Kiev there are an army of beautiful cosmopolitan girl who travel the world, have collected much more money than me and many years in their life thanks to their pussy and will never fuck for less than 300 500 dollar.

I wrote if you come in Kiev to deal only with mamba girl stay home or go Thailand. Is totally nonsense. Kiev is left for real professional longer who can stay longer time and can find the real young gem unspoiled.

Most of girl after 19-20 are already fucked up completely. Instagram has destroyed this world and the situation in Kiev is dramatic. Personally I will go in Russia next year to see the difference. I suspect the visa regime has preserved something.

As I wrote I've got my old ones, my old contacts, it means about 10-15 girls that I can get for a good price.

I totally agree with you, coming here for 1 or 2 weeks, it's wasting time. Better to go to Germany or to Spain or to Thailand as you say.

[LuisVega11]

In mamba 100 dollar and more are asked by semi pro in most cases if they not like your profile or your photos.

Personally I have never paid more than 50 dollar for medium quality to good quality. Sure if you look for the top profile they will ask you much more than 100 dollar.

People in my opinion don't realize that's even if Kiev is poor and gryvna is worth nothing, in Kiev there are an army of beautiful cosmopolitan girl who travel the world, have collected much more money than me and many years in their life thanks to their pussy and will never fuck for less than 300 500 dollar.

I wrote if you come in Kiev to deal only with mamba girl stay home or go Thailand. Is totally nonsense. Kiev is left for real professional longer who can stay longer time and can find the real young gem unspoiled.

Most of girl after 19-20 are already fucked up completely. Instagram has destroyed this world and the situation in Kiev is dramatic. Personally I will go in Russia next year to see the difference. I suspect the visa regime has preserved something.