Kyiv

[Horny American]

Can't PM you and I'm not posting their names or contact info for them to be flooded with guys looking for the easy score. Last time that happened she got very mad at me that it made her look like a hardcore prostitute instead of an UTR girl just making some occasional cash on the side.

Thanks for the informative posts! Care to share a Mamba profile for an unlucky novice? All I get is fake profiles who cannot speak English at all.

[GDreams]

I have seen following abbreviation at some escort site, have no clue what it is, any idea.

MPG.

ZHMZH.

KUNI.

ICBM

Kuni + cunnilingus.

ZhMZh = Female Male Female.

Can't help with others.

[Eric Emp]

I have seen following abbreviation at some escort site, have no clue what it is, any idea.

MPG.

ZHMZH.

KUNI.

ICBM

[DramaFree11]

Another monger asked about pricing but that mostly goes to your negotiating skills and what your comfortable with paying. The Buddha Bar "ladies" initially asked for $500 (total for both of them) and I just laughed and declined their offer. After another drink they then asked for just $400 but I declined again. We ended up settling on $200 plus a tip for the pictures and video. It wasn't a good or bad deal. They really wanted to go together and not solo and I don't mind 3 somes.

The mamba girls asked for as little as $60 for a 2-3 HR date to as much as $300 LOL. Again, I don't mind 3 somes and will ask a girl if she has a friend to join us. I always try to get pics included if I can and I'm pretty good about sweet talking them into it. I usually promise to avoid their faces etc or even offer a mask but still get lots of nice shots. The one's I'm calling Salt and Pepper is due to one being a blond and the other a brunette and I'm not giving their real names.

I'll attach a few pics that some mongers might appreciate but others will still complain about them no matter what. Just the way it is here unfortunately.

Good job!! At that price point very good deal. As I have said in many of my previous posts, between $100-150, is fair in Kiev, anything more Hell no! Again, nice report.

[Elemtere2]

Another monger asked about pricing but that mostly goes to your negotiating skills and what your comfortable with paying. The Buddha Bar "ladies" initially asked for $500 (total for both of them) and I just laughed and declined their offer. After another drink they then asked for just $400 but I declined again. We ended up settling on $200 plus a tip for the pictures and video. It wasn't a good or bad deal. They really wanted to go together and not solo and I don't mind 3 somes.

The mamba girls asked for as little as $60 for a 2-3 HR date to as much as $300 LOL. Again, I don't mind 3 somes and will ask a girl if she has a friend to join us. I always try to get pics included if I can and I'm pretty good about sweet talking them into it. I usually promise to avoid their faces etc or even offer a mask but still get lots of nice shots. The one's I'm calling Salt and Pepper is due to one being a blond and the other a brunette and I'm not giving their real names.

I'll attach a few pics that some mongers might appreciate but others will still complain about them no matter what. Just the way it is here unfortunately.

Thanks for the informative posts! Care to share a Mamba profile for an unlucky novice? All I get is fake profiles who cannot speak English at all.

[DramaFree11]

What's important to remember that is unique to Ukrainians is that about a third of the population has a complete anathema towards work. You also need to know Ukrainians are molded to have good manners. I'm pretty sure they whip them in school. I always see low class behavior among the other EE's but not Ukrainians even though they can be real scum on the inside. This is why Ukrainian girls offer unique experiences. You have a high energy girl that doesn't work and acts polite. Plus, they don't eat a lot of crap.

You are totally correct about the work, they are allergic to work, even at a young age.

[Riina]

You can have many Eastern Europe girls for less than that in Western Europe. I think even Belgium, United Kingdom, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria are going to be cheaper than Kiev. Don't say that Ukrainian girls are prettier than Czech, Rumanian, Hungarian or Baltic countries girls, that's not true.
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What's important to remember that is unique to Ukrainians is that about a third of the population has a complete anathema towards work. You also need to know Ukrainians are molded to have good manners. I'm pretty sure they whip them in school. I always see low class behavior among the other EE's but not Ukrainians even though they can be real scum on the inside. This is why Ukrainian girls offer unique experiences. You have a high energy girl that doesn't work and acts polite. Plus, they don't eat a lot of crap.

[Horny American]

Another monger asked about pricing but that mostly goes to your negotiating skills and what your comfortable with paying. The Buddha Bar "ladies" initially asked for $500 (total for both of them) and I just laughed and declined their offer. After another drink they then asked for just $400 but I declined again. We ended up settling on $200 plus a tip for the pictures and video. It wasn't a good or bad deal. They really wanted to go together and not solo and I don't mind 3 somes.

The mamba girls asked for as little as $60 for a 2-3 HR date to as much as $300 LOL. Again, I don't mind 3 somes and will ask a girl if she has a friend to join us. I always try to get pics included if I can and I'm pretty good about sweet talking them into it. I usually promise to avoid their faces etc or even offer a mask but still get lots of nice shots. The one's I'm calling Salt and Pepper is due to one being a blond and the other a brunette and I'm not giving their real names.

I'll attach a few pics that some mongers might appreciate but others will still complain about them no matter what. Just the way it is here unfortunately.

[Jojosun]

For the delusional guys

Last thought. Make sure you clearly understand the distinction between a prostitute and a girl looking for a supportive relationship.

Well said & Kiev is for guys looking for Slavic Ukrainian Girls, so it's a waste of space making comparisons with other well known Mongering destinations.

These days we don't hear much here about the Fantastic Mongering scene in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan which were in Vogue according to some on this thread about 6/7 years ago??

Next door to the 2 Stans https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...ive/ar-BBLfLzt.

[Elemtere2]

Hi Michi,

I found her thanks to a girl from Mamba that I never met. A threesome was foresseen but we didn't do it at the end. Before meeting me the 23 years old student wanted to see my pictures. She came this time by mini bus, so no taxi to pay))). Another one today agrees to come for 1000 UAH. 10 Days ago she wanted 60 euro = 1800 UAH and I said no. With some firmness and bargaining, we may sometimes get the prices down at least with some girls. They have no pimp, so these girls make the price. I don't agree to pay any price for an average looking girl.

That is good news! I'm now trying to do the same. It will be my first ever trip to Ukraine. But girls from Mamba are all over the place; asking between 50-1200$!

Care to share her Mamba ID so that I might contact her? I'm afraid most of the profiles are fake.

Thanks in advance!

[Volpone]

Why even bother with GIA.

Well done with the other girl. Where and how did you find her?

Hi Michi,

I found her thanks to a girl from Mamba that I never met. A threesome was foresseen but we didn't do it at the end. Before meeting me the 23 years old student wanted to see my pictures. She came this time by mini bus, so no taxi to pay))). Another one today agrees to come for 1000 UAH. 10 Days ago she wanted 60 euro = 1800 UAH and I said no. With some firmness and bargaining, we may sometimes get the prices down at least with some girls. They have no pimp, so these girls make the price. I don't agree to pay any price for an average looking girl.

[Eric Emp]

YES, of course.

Is this Yes to Hotel.

Or yes Apartments are safe.

[Michi T]

LOL, coming to Kiev and paying a monthly salary for a pro, that smells despair.

You can have many Eastern Europe girls for less than that in Western Europe. I think even Belgium, United Kingdom, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria are going to be cheaper than Kiev. Don't say that Ukrainian girls are prettier than Czech, Rumanian, Hungarian or Baltic countries girls, that's not true.

This morning just had a pretty NON-PRO, 23 years old student for 50 $ (French kisses, 69, BBBJ, Cuni and sex) + 200 UAH for taxi, because she lives very far away. She wanted to come by Mini-bus, but she was late, so she told me she took a taxi. Well I don't know the truth, she might have come by mini-bus anyway. Next time she wants to come by mini bus, because she wants to save the 184 UAH, small amount, a bit more than 7 $. So you can see that I could get 5 Non-pros with these 250 $ for a GIA girl.

Who is going to pay these insane prices and to feed the mafia?

Why even bother with GIA.

Well done with the other girl. Where and how did you find her?

[Michi T]

Is it safe and ok to stay at one of the apartments? I have booked one through Bookingcom web site but I am unable to get any response from the host, should I stick to a Hotel, do all Hotels allow Girls or they don't.

YES, of course.

[Eric Emp]

Is it safe and ok to stay at one of the apartments? I have booked one through Bookingcom web site but I am unable to get any response from the host, should I stick to a Hotel, do all Hotels allow Girls or they don't.