Kyiv

[Sorbonne]

I smiled about your first posting. Meanwhile I feel insulted. I am and feel as 'European Citizen'.

Well. We are a densely populated continent and many cities don't have an effective cleaning system for their used waters. We do use too much fertilizers and pesticides on our fields. They all flush down the rivers. So sea weeds might grow overly due to much nutrition. Of course, chemical pollution is going down the rivers. So first advice: avoid the beaches near any larger city, industrial parks and near rivers flushing all their dirt into the ocean.

Sea weeds are part of natural habitat. They are healthy: used in 1) medication and nutrition; 2) in therapy, e.g. Thalasso therapy in France; 3) natural fertilizers, e.g. In good old Ireland. So what is wrong with sea weeds?

You got the advice looking for the 'blue flag sign' in Europe. A certificate for clean water and clean beaches.

You got the advice about Blogs / Forums / Reviews named like 'Best Beaches of Europe' - there are more of these and they are great basic info. Everything else should do any travel agency with reputation and experience. It's ridiculous telling me, that you have to fly overseas to find a clean beach with unspoiled waters. White beaches are where there are corals or white rocks. That's not everywhere. I most loved a black beach on one of the Aeolian Islands north of Sicily. Great clean waters with pebbles and rough sand along the beach. Black because of the volcano islands. A girls body looks nicer on a black beach than on a white beach. But there are no airports, no charter flights. None of those nasty tourists, looking for some strange kind of perfection. Instead, there are lovely, small hotels with great Italian cuisine. Usually good educated Italians who go traditionally to those islands. So please beware of July / August. It's nicer and not so hot, not overbooked earlier or later. I was swimming there mid October. Sun is going down behind the hills after 3 pm. You go first to a cafe having a drink, do your shopping, go home having a nap, get a shower and go out for a romantic dinner or dine at the hotel. Perfect for a love affair. There are many more places like these in Europe. Just ask you travel agent and check the Internet. You got all advice. Just do you job and do your research!

And please stop insulting me as an European telling me that you do not find clean sand beaches without see weeds in Europe!

Hope you don't mind me saying your post was hilarious!

I never intended to insult anyone.

If anybody tells me there are no nice beaches in the US, I would not be insulted because it's true! The closest thing to a nice beach in the US is the White Sands National Monument in the State of New Mexico, where there used to be a nice white sand beach zillions of years ago.

"So what is wrong with sea weeds?

Well, I don't want seaweeds to start clinging to our bodies as we have sex on the beach. Or maybe it will further arouse us.

BTW, I've been to the Aeolian Islands. Not very impressed.

I consider myself as a travel agent specializing in Europe, having done sightseeing in nearly 600 cities in over 40 countries in Europe.

I have already done a lot of researches but will be doing more, looking for a resort with a perfect beach in Europe. Only to please my Ukrainian girls!

[Muddy7]

Is it safe to travel to Kiev?

Yes, just be smart and stay away from Maidan, there are some fuked up characters in the tents there.

And dont walk on the streets late at night, get taxi.

[Ganesha]

I smiled about your first posting. Meanwhile I feel insulted. I am and feel as 'European Citizen'.

Well. We are a densely populated continent and many cities don't have an effective cleaning system for their used waters. We do use too much fertilizers and pesticides on our fields. They all flush down the rivers. So sea weeds might grow overly due to much nutrition. Of course, chemical pollution is going down the rivers. So first advice: avoid the beaches near any larger city, industrial parks and near rivers flushing all their dirt into the ocean.

Sea weeds are part of natural habitat. They are healthy: used in 1) medication and nutrition; 2) in therapy, e.g. Thalasso therapy in France; 3) natural fertilizers, e.g. In good old Ireland. So what is wrong with sea weeds?

You got the advice looking for the 'blue flag sign' in Europe. A certificate for clean water and clean beaches.

You got the advice about Blogs / Forums / Reviews named like 'Best Beaches of Europe' - there are more of these and they are great basic info. Everything else should do any travel agency with reputation and experience. It's ridiculous telling me, that you have to fly overseas to find a clean beach with unspoiled waters. White beaches are where there are corals or white rocks. That's not everywhere. I most loved a black beach on one of the Aeolian Islands north of Sicily. Great clean waters with pebbles and rough sand along the beach. Black because of the volcano islands. A girls body looks nicer on a black beach than on a white beach. But there are no airports, no charter flights. None of those nasty tourists, looking for some strange kind of perfection. Instead, there are lovely, small hotels with great Italian cuisine. Usually good educated Italians who go traditionally to those islands. So please beware of July / August. It's nicer and not so hot, not overbooked earlier or later. I was swimming there mid October. Sun is going down behind the hills after 3 pm. You go first to a cafe having a drink, do your shopping, go home having a nap, get a shower and go out for a romantic dinner or dine at the hotel. Perfect for a love affair. There are many more places like these in Europe. Just ask you travel agent and check the Internet. You got all advice. Just do you job and do your research!

And please stop insulting me as an European telling me that you do not find clean sand beaches without see weeds in Europe!

I have missed out this post. For some reason these posts don't seem to be loaded in real time, if you know what I mean...

I have been to some of these and have done some researches on still others.

I would like to know if any of these beaches have hotels / resorts right by them, but some or even most of these don't have white sands. But I would like to do further research on this article.

Thanks.

[Prosal]

Is it safe to travel to Kiev?

Well, in two weeks I've almost never been around Maidan / Kreshatik (I felt good in Podol, which is definitely a very safe and clean neighborhood with lot of good eating / drinking options. But no clubs), but the few times I was there I found the whole area quite dirty and still full of dubious characters dressed in paramilitary uniforms. IMO it could be rather unsafe if you are planning intensive nightlife and drinking in this area.

[El Cubanito]

As a side note, on my last trip to Kiev I stayed in Podol area, and now I wouldn't wouldn't consider staying in another neighborhood.

What is great is that Podol is very close to the center (Kreshatik and Maidan are just behind the hill, at a 20 minutes walk or 10 minutes by funicular), but feels like a village. The main street of Podol (and most of its perpendicular streets) is literally full of cafes with summer terraces, highly enjoyable. For those who don't know, Podol is the oldest neighborhoods of Kyiv and definitely the most enjoyable (in a city which is itself enjoyable). My apartment was located on Andrivskiy Descent, the "Montmartre of Kiev". It was one stone away to Bulgakov Museum, the Funicular, many interesting monastories, ect, and ten minutes walking to the river. Also what is also great is that Podol is the new "in" area, with many trendy cafes filled with well-heeled girls. And you don't see your usual Kreshatik uncouth sex-tourist there.

Is it safe to travel to Kiev?

[Sorbonne]

Maybe one of these?

http://www.timeout.com/travel/featur...s-best-beaches

So many of these places are worth a visit so I would be a fool to try to select one as the best.

Barba

I have missed out this post. For some reason these posts don't seem to be loaded in real time, if you know what I mean...

I have been to some of these and have done some researches on still others.

I would like to know if any of these beaches have hotels / resorts right by them, but some or even most of these don't have white sands. But I would like to do further research on this article.

Thanks.

[Member #4274]

As a side note, on my last trip to Kiev I stayed in Podol area, and now I wouldn't wouldn't consider staying in another neighborhood.

What is great is that Podol is very close to the center (Kreshatik and Maidan are just behind the hill, at a 20 minutes walk or 10 minutes by funicular), but feels like a village. The main street of Podol (and most of its perpendicular streets) is literally full of cafes with summer terraces, highly enjoyable. For those who don't know, Podol is the oldest neighborhoods of Kyiv and definitely the most enjoyable (in a city which is itself enjoyable). My apartment was located on Andrivskiy Descent, the "Montmartre of Kiev". It was one stone away to Bulgakov Museum, the Funicular, many interesting monastories, ect, and ten minutes walking to the river. Also what is also great is that Podol is the new "in" area, with many trendy cafes filled with well-heeled girls. And you don't see your usual Kreshatik uncouth sex-tourist there.

I like your style, Mr. Prosal. Well said and I couldn't agree more!

[Prosal]

As a side note, on my last trip to Kiev I stayed in Podol area, and now I wouldn't wouldn't consider staying in another neighborhood.

What is great is that Podol is very close to the center (Kreshatik and Maidan are just behind the hill, at a 20 minutes walk or 10 minutes by funicular), but feels like a village. The main street of Podol (and most of its perpendicular streets) is literally full of cafes with summer terraces, highly enjoyable. For those who don't know, Podol is the oldest neighborhoods of Kyiv and definitely the most enjoyable (in a city which is itself enjoyable). My apartment was located on Andrivskiy Descent, the "Montmartre of Kiev". It was one stone away to Bulgakov Museum, the Funicular, many interesting monastories, ect, and ten minutes walking to the river. Also what is also great is that Podol is the new "in" area, with many trendy cafes filled with well-heeled girls. And you don't see your usual Kreshatik uncouth sex-tourist there.

[Prosal]

May I ask which beach town in Georgia are there flights from Kiev to?

Batumi, with UIA. Nevertheless better hit the coast south of Batumi, or if you are adventurous Abkhazia. Batumi tries too hard to be a mini-Vegas (some 75 percent of the investments in Batumi belong to Turkish companies) and is filled with turk tourists / mongers. IMHO the real wonders of Georgia are in its countryside, notally in easternmost region of Kakheti region, where you can visit the famous Alaverdi cathedral, the highest church in Georgia, lost in the mountains, only 120 km (some 100 laris by taxi). Also the famous historic "Military Road" where you will discover the wild beauty of the deep Caucasus mountains is worth a jouney. That is just a few ideas, there's dozens of interesting things to do in Georgia.

http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Asi.../East/Kakheti/

http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Asi...oto1321595.htm

http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Asi...heta-Mtianeti/

[Sorbonne]

Just spent two weeks in Georgia with ukrainian GF and even is Georgian food is considered as the best in FSU, it's not very varied after one week you get tired of katchapuri and shashliks.

Georgia is nonetheless a great destination to kick back for one week with an ukrainian girl. Flights are cheap from Kiev and there's many options (not only beach, there is also some wonderful historic mountain towns like Signagi) to spend an enjoyable stay. Tbilisi is a rather enjoyable city also, cullturally highly interesting.

May I ask which beach town in Georgia are there flights from Kiev to?

[Sorbonne]

The Hotel Roca Bella (75 rooms only) is the only one I know in front of a small white beach and it is at walking distance (appr. 1.3 Km) from the main beach.

Thanks, but 1.3 km is too far. Less than 50 m is desirable.

And I also see some seaweed and / or rocks in the water in the last photo, which is, I'm guessing, in front of the hotel.

[Ivanvlad]

Thanks.

I have been aware of Formentera's white sand beach.

In this photo where is the resort in relation to the beach?

I'm looking for a beach front hotel.

The Hotel Roca Bella (75 rooms only) is the only one I know in front of a small white beach and it is at walking distance (appr. 1.3 Km) from the main beach.

[Sorbonne]

Formentera.

Thanks.

I have been aware of Formentera's white sand beach.

In this photo where is the resort in relation to the beach?

I'm looking for a beach front hotel.

[Voistov]

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[Prosal]

they also are considered by many locals to be undesirables, supposedly involved in dubious activities.

as a side note, when you stroll the streets of tbilisi with your ukrainian gf and if she is dressed "ukrainian style"(too short skirt, high heels, ect), 90 % of the men stare at you like if they want to [CodeWord123] her and kill you. not enjoyable at all.