Kyiv

[Iceberg27]

Why to this nosorog? Its so far from center, there are another 2 you can just go walking from khreshatyk just 15 minutes (mint and podil) or short time in taxi.

I know the one you say, I was 2 or 3 times, both I saw really pretty girls, but speaking bad English, and as its located far from center, it wasn't one of my favorites. Maybe I have been 30 times to different strip clubs in Kiev and never han an experience as you say, few times they removed my pants, but never were so far away, never removed boxer and of course never masturbated me, I think it was correct gave her 1000 grivna, 3 songs is the prize and also it has a extra sex service, if I was in Kiev I would go to this strip club tonight.

Who cares about English? There are a few girls speaks moderate english in Nosorof but I never give a shit to this. My favorite girl there has no English but wonderful curves. While I was watching her on stage, I was thinking how perfect she is. Also she was so warm in private dance. I didn't kiss with my GF like this. But all left in the past. Now I type this post in my boring office. The reasons that I prefer this club is previously explained but let me put it again. First I feel like the king there. Girls guys ratio are being so high always. What will I get from a private dance will be more than compared to touristic ones on Kreshtatik. Why should I take less for the same money? Just for your understanding I will tell you the music played there 70% russian and that means this place is mostly for locals and ukranians. It is not important to be outside of city because only 50 grivna and 15 minutes taxi journey will take you there from Arena City. In my previous visits, I have been in some of the other strip clubs and I didn't like them. Let s say Darling that is favorited by many people here will not be a place that I will visit again. It s like a fish market and interior design is so boring and suffocating. I know it is not same type but I am trying to tell that Salons or that kind of places is not my thing. I mean get inside see the girls and choose one of them in 1 minute. Fck with her and leave. No not to me.

Just saw your message. Just came back from Kiev myself was going to spend NYE there with one of the previously girls but ended up meeting someone.

SA is seeking arrangements.com.

Trip in Nov I stayed at in an apartment I found on booking.com.

This last trip I stayed at a hotel next to Gulliver for $40/ night I really liked this place price / location.

I personally do not like strip clubs. Only "day game" at the local malls and mamba / ig / Tinder. I'm mid 40's and come off maybe a decade younger, but that's what we all say LOL.

I met some good leads this time on mamba, SA and IG but didn't have enough time to meet them all. For people I know personally will give you the leads. Their IG ect. Message me. I know I prob won't be in touch with these leads again, use it or lose it. But part of the fun of every trip is to pipeline and meet new girls so I certainly don't mind. Some have messaged me and ask what I usually write to girls on IG or tinder and it's always the same. Tinder message sounds really cheesy I know but has a high success rate. Feel free to steal it. I put my age 14 year younger than I am.

I really need to figure out this Social Media game. Because my success rate is so low. I had opened Tinder two days before I arrive and maybe 40-50 matches and zero meetings. Girls are asking gifts or expensive dinners and this is also not my thing. When I spend money more than 200 grivna to a girls (that only can buy a couple of coffee) and get only a small kiss on return I really feel bad. I also never tried day game in malls but this can be something to me. More directs she likes you or not. There is no effort to convince her to meet in face to face. She is right there in front of you.

[Rob Hay]

Rob really interesting info. Sorry for my stupid question but what is SA? Snapchat? Regarding my visit I rented an apartment on Desyatynna Street on booking from Kiev Lodging. Maybe it would be better to be on Kreshtatik but I don't know. Accommodation prices was quite high. %52 occupancy ratio on Dobovo. After your post, I said maybe I should go to Minsk. Never been there. Have been in Ukraine many times. Honestly, on the lonely days of pandemic on my bed I was remembering my nights in Star Rhinoceros Strip Club on Maksyma Kryvonosa St, 27. Anyone been there before? Really nice place full of desperate 20's. I hope I can get there and I hope it continues to work when I am there. I never tried IG for getting girls. And honestly I am not very good in social media game. I can approach a girl on street. 41 years old looks much younger. No Russian. We will see. Have been in Kiev 3 times before. And anyone can suggest a nice MP? It is really a big pleasure for a very short price.

Just saw your message. Just came back from Kiev myself was going to spend NYE there with one of the previously girls but ended up meeting someone.

SA is seeking arrangements.com.

Trip in Nov I stayed at in an apartment I found on booking.com.

This last trip I stayed at a hotel next to Gulliver for $40/ night I really liked this place price / location.

I personally do not like strip clubs. Only "day game" at the local malls and mamba / ig / Tinder. I'm mid 40's and come off maybe a decade younger, but that's what we all say LOL.

I met some good leads this time on mamba, SA and IG but didn't have enough time to meet them all. For people I know personally will give you the leads. Their IG ect. Message me. I know I prob won't be in touch with these leads again, use it or lose it. But part of the fun of every trip is to pipeline and meet new girls so I certainly don't mind. Some have messaged me and ask what I usually write to girls on IG or tinder and it's always the same. Tinder message sounds really cheesy I know but has a high success rate. Feel free to steal it. I put my age 14 year younger than I am.

[Rob Hay]

How do you identify IG girls to target? Because there are millions of people and unless you know specific name of girls in Kiev it's totally random. Thanks.

Rugga,

Most recently I Dm girls from the page top_ukranian_girls_.

Also I find girls that were in Alaska Kiev, Fenix or any local hot spot. Something you got to message alot of girls to get a hit or time like my NYE trip things just really worked out well. Without too much spamming.

[Misterxxx]

I heard that all ukrainian borders will be closed for entry starting January 7 , any confirmation on it?

No. That's not true.

From January 8th there will be a strict quarantine in Ukraine. All shops, entertainment and restaurants are then closed for 16 days. Only supermarkets, pharmacies and financial institutions are allowed to open. During this time, a vacation in Ukraine is not worthwhile. Many Ukrainians then go to ski resorts or abroad themselves. Female students go to their parents. Because the universities and schools remain closed. Internal traffic and the borders remain open this time. The entry of foreigners is not prohibited either.

[Ringudor]

The one that I go is on Maksyma kryvonosa 27.

Why to this nosorog? Its so far from center, there are another 2 you can just go walking from khreshatyk just 15 minutes (mint and podil) or short time in taxi.

I know the one you say, I was 2 or 3 times, both I saw really pretty girls, but speaking bad English, and as its located far from center, it wasn't one of my favorites. Maybe I have been 30 times to different strip clubs in Kiev and never han an experience as you say, few times they removed my pants, but never were so far away, never removed boxer and of course never masturbated me, I think it was correct gave her 1000 grivna, 3 songs is the prize and also it has a extra sex service, if I was in Kiev I would go to this strip club tonight.

[Iceberg27]

Star rhino nosorog is the one in podil?

The one that I go is on Maksyma kryvonosa 27.

By the way I want to share what I experienced there. I went there 3 times because it is really enjoyable. I like it because I am being one of a few guys inside. On my 2 visits, I was the only guy inside. Anyway on Saturday night. I was sitting and watching girls. Unfortunately, their seat placement is not very appropriate because the places that are directly looking the stage have single seats which I hate because girls can't come and sit next to you. To caress the girl's legs and touch her hair freely while she is trying to convince you for a private or a cocktail is really enjoyable. So I always try to sit on double sofas. Here these double sofas are hidden in dark corners. So I go and sat in one of the double seats which is far away of the stage. The previous time I sit the circular seats which is around the stage. I hate this circular sofa too because there are too close to the stage. Anyway, when I enter, some girls jump on stage and make the show but after a while (I guess being far away of stage is another reason) no girls was on the stage and they were chit chatting each other on the other side of club. Smoking and laughing. I think even If you don't get any private show the show on stage has to continue because it is the main action there and you pay the entrance. I sat a bit and then decided to go to bar with the excuse to give my phone for charging and give a look to the girls. I went there and has seen that there are a few girls that I never see and never danced. One blonde speaked up to me. I give a smile and come back to seat. She come to the table and asked for a champagne. I said no, I don't want to spend my money to drinks I wish to spend on private dance. Suddenly a big brunette girl come and sit our table. She told me her friend liked me. I said ok what nice. Unfortunately the brunette and a little bit fat girls not my taste. So I just been kind and said no. She said let us go private dance together with her friend and I said no again. I just want to go with you. She was really upset because I say no to every offer. She left suddenly angrily and told me she doesn't do private dance. And interesting part of story starts here; 5 minutes later she came back and said let s go to private. Oh my god. When we were inside she pull off a box of napkins that I have never seen before. Honestly at the moment, I thought I got so little from strip clubs till now. If there is a box of paper inside the rooms than possibly some customers get HJ or maybe Oral Sex. I don't know. Anyway let me come to the point. She started to dance and she pulled of my pants. That was not a surprise because some other girls also pulled of my pants before. And they rub on your underwear. That is not very unusual. But when she also pulled of my underwear and my thing was outside, I was really super excited. Oh my god what is going on here. And then she started to masturbate and told me that she wants to see me cumming. I was again in a refusal mode because it doesn't make sense to pay 500 griv to jerk of by yourself. I can do that at home also. Anyway she put a napkin on her pussy and started to masturbate and I also make myself cumm. I couldn't decide what was that. Did she really get horny and wanted to experience something like that or she was just trying to get some more money? By the way in the end she asked me 1000 Grivna because it was three songs. And of course I said no. So I am really confused about what happened there.

[IndusMint]

I heard that all ukrainian borders will be closed for entry starting January 7 , any confirmation on it?

[Ringudor]

I went to star rhino strip also on my second night. I was nearly come back because I was thinking it is closed. Thanks god after I knocked the door a security guard come upstairs and open the door. Until that moment I didn't hear any music noise or people around. If you go there just knock the black glass door and wait. I got three girls to private dance (500 grivna) and ordered a champanski for 1100 grivna to drink with girls. Here no single lady drink or maybe there are and the girls didn't tell me but anyway. Sushi was fantastic also. Bad things are; they charged me 200 grivna for a broken wine glass that I drop on the ground. And they forgot to deduct the 500 grivna bar fine that I paid in entrance. I didn't realise it at first because the blood was not going to my brain at the moment. LOL. After I finish private, I go and asked them and they said they tought it was a tip. Normally in the bill paper it must be deducted automatically but they don't..

Star rhino nosorog is the one in podil?

[YummyPL]

One of my girls is interested in having a meeting with 2 guys. If anyone is in Kyiv (or will be in Kyiv) and is interested, please send me a PM so we can discuss details. This will be free (no cost) for you.

[VinDici]

I find it not so easy to get a National ID. I don't have European residency.

So is TransferWise even cheaper than WU?

If you don't have European residency, then I would recommend trying to get it. You don't always need residency to get a national ID, depends which state you living in. A local driving licence might also suffice as ID.

TransferWise is orders of magnitude cheaper than WU.

[Iceberg27]

Honestly that was one of my best travels to ukraine. Everything was in line. In my first night I grabbed a 21 old freebie from a dance party. Second day I go to topless adel. It was one of the best massages that I had. I picked a brunette. 25 yo. Unfortunately can't remember her name. I get the 1500 grivna package includes 2 times happy ending and shower with girl. It is really the best choice. The session was nearly the same as nuru massage that you see on porn sites. Real pleasure to have the girl's ass rubbing on your dick in shower with the foam. Also I really enjoyed that she put her ass on my dick and rubbing on bed with cream during massage.

I could pick a more friendly girl but I just go for optics and I don't have any regrets because the session was good enough. I guess they have a minumum level of service there to make customers happy and that is sufficient for many people who get used to a very bad level of service for lots of money in their own country. Third day 21 years old freebie come to my apartment again. All I spend is 189 grivna for a package of coffee for her home, a dinner of 430 grivna and she made me eat half of her salad. LOL. Two times taxi which is about 400 grivna total. I went to star rhino strip also on my second night. I was nearly come back because I was thinking it is closed. Thanks god after I knocked the door a security guard come upstairs and open the door. Until that moment I didn't hear any music noise or people around. If you go there just knock the black glass door and wait. I got three girls to private dance (500 grivna) and ordered a champanski for 1100 grivna to drink with girls. Here no single lady drink or maybe there are and the girls didn't tell me but anyway. Sushi was fantastic also. Bad things are; they charged me 200 grivna for a broken wine glass that I drop on the ground. And they forgot to deduct the 500 grivna bar fine that I paid in entrance. I didn't realise it at first because the blood was not going to my brain at the moment. LOL. After I finish private, I go and asked them and they said they tought it was a tip. Normally in the bill paper it must be deducted automatically but they don't. You need to tell them. I paid 100 grivna entrance and 500 bar fine, totally 600 grivna during entrance. I am sure they don't ask bar fine to locals. I strongly suggest musafir restaurant on kreshtatik which is close to arena city. Cheap and nice food. Also bolt food is really usefull. They bring it till my door. Noone cares about covid test as Sean said. They didn't even look at my test results just asked if I had or not.

[Sorbonne]

Persist with Transferwise and get your account verified. You can use it in the long term even if it won't solve your problem right now. If you live in Europe, maybe you can verify your account with the local National ID Card, which doesn't require citizenship to obtain. It will at least prove your European residency. In the end you want to be able to send money from your American and European accounts, let Transferwise support know and perhaps they can suggest the best way forward.

I find it not so easy to get a National ID. I don't have European residency.

So is TransferWise even cheaper than WU?

[Sorbonne]

Just send using Western Union with a cash pickup. Western Union include there fees in your payment and there are no fees for a cash pickup.

I also just sent some money (less than 50 USD) with WU. In my case there was a 1. 35 USD fee for a direct deposit and 2. 7 USD for a cash pickup. I chose the former.

But I also know that the exchange rate is not very good because WU also makes money by using rate advantageous to them, just like PayPal does.

But still, well, I find WU is cheap enough.

[VinDici]

Unfortunately, I couldn't use TransferWise. My bank in the USA didn't allow me to send money to TransferWise because they are willing to send SMS with verification code only to US mobile phone or to call US landline phone to give the code, neither of which I have because I live in Europe. They don't call my US phone number I have with Skype. I can't use my banks in Europe because once I send my American passport to TransferWise, they only allowed me to use American banks.

It sounds like the cheapest way to send her money is to send her cash by regular mail.

Persist with Transferwise and get your account verified. You can use it in the long term even if it won't solve your problem right now. If you live in Europe, maybe you can verify your account with the local National ID Card, which doesn't require citizenship to obtain. It will at least prove your European residency. In the end you want to be able to send money from your American and European accounts, let Transferwise support know and perhaps they can suggest the best way forward.

[Imoraig]

Anyone knows a good MP in Kyiv? I will really need a long nice massage with happy ending after my flight tomorrow in the afternoon. Updated info requested. There were nice ones before.

MP with happy ending is great way to relax, and Kyiv has some good places and most of all great prices for that concrete service if compared with the countries we come from.

Try Relax Massage (Pushkinska St, 31&#1042, whatsapp / telegram them before going and book with Milana, that is the one girl having a great massage and attitude, and nice body. I tried other masseuses there but like her much more, specially becaue she also actually gives you a great massage first.

Another alternative for MP is Toplessclub (Prorizna St, 18/1&#1075. This one is nicer setting maybe (the rooms bigger and more modern) and it should have 5 or more girls to choose anytime you go. However rotation is high there so try to pick up one that suits you, I have seen there some nice ones.

There are many more MP available, but these two are the ones which I had best recent experiences. Prices you'll be asked go on a "menu" between 900 - 1500 for the programs you could be interested. Makes not sense to pay for any other of the more expensive time lengths or VIP options. Go for 1 hour for 1 K or 1200 UH and maybe tip if you like it and you want she remember you next time.