Kyiv

[ChronoTrigger]

How did you get contact? Do you have a number or just rang the bell?

Good point, not sure if you can just turn up without an introduction.

A female scout named M approached me in the street, asked me questions to ascertain I was a foreigner with spending money then took me there. I have her viber contact.

M herself is about 26, attractive and single, but has a busted leg. From a skiing accident she says.

BTW the 2100 UAH price is for 1 hour.

[DramaFree11]

Was responding from my phone calm down. You must have misunderstood me. I was agreeing with you.

I just pointed out that in my opinion the "charme" or plus side to Kiev is that it is quite cheap and full of hot / semi-hot girls AND geographically close to Europe and therefore with some practice and experience one from Europe (such as me) should be able to setup things for short trips as well (go there on a long weekend for example and stay 3-4 nights then back).

No need get your teeth out buddy.

For reference about me. Was in Kiev last year, for a week, had only 2 girls (was my first time, which is why I was inefficient) which I would both consider top notch though. And I paid about 150 euro for like 2-3 hours if I remember correctly?

Both girls I found on mamba because KEC doesn't show faces and I am not willing to meet a girl that I cannot see the face of beforehand.

Correct City is nice, girls very average compared to other destinations, maybe even below average now. $150,2-3 hours in Kiev is very cheap now, I can only what they look like.

[DramaFree11]

Was responding from my phone calm down. You must have misunderstood me. I was agreeing with you.

I just pointed out that in my opinion the "charme" or plus side to Kiev is that it is quite cheap and full of hot / semi-hot girls AND geographically close to Europe and therefore with some practice and experience one from Europe (such as me) should be able to setup things for short trips as well (go there on a long weekend for example and stay 3-4 nights then back).

No need get your teeth out buddy..

Highly unlikely, unless you have real low standards.

[Arkiloko]

apartment brothels are ... self-deception
Baseina Street. Its next to a pizza bread food outlet, maybe Domino's.
Behind a large electronic locked dark steel security front door, then the door immediately on your right when you get to the 2nd floor.

How did you get contact? Do you have a number or just rang the bell?

[AntonySun1996]

I'm not sure this is good advice. I had an apartment on Sofievka not far from the Maidan where there were police usually walking around, and several times was stopped by police just before I could enter the door to my building when I had one or two girls with me. They asked to see ID's and other questions. I had to pay them money to let us go. The police are interested in the payoff, not the prostitution. This was a few years ago. Since then I've rented apartments not near a known police location. And I don't much bring girls home with me anymore, and usually just invite girls from mamba to come to my apartment. So I haven't had such problems again. But I would be wary of flaunting the bringing of girls to my address right under the noses of police. It's begging for trouble and just about inviting police to shake you down for some grivna.

Thank you for sharing your experience. Seems it would be necessary to take some precautionary measures then.

I personally have never been harassed by the local police when hanging out with girls. I once even called the police when a drunk homeless man harassed me and the girl with me near Maidan. They arrived soon and were very helpful in solving our problems and never asked for documents or money.

[Argo1990]

You may google and learn basic HTML for quotes, it's simple.

How many times have you been to Kiev?

When was your last time? How many years ago?

How long do you typically stay?

What is your budget? Total and per hour?.

Was responding from my phone calm down. You must have misunderstood me. I was agreeing with you.

I just pointed out that in my opinion the "charme" or plus side to Kiev is that it is quite cheap and full of hot / semi-hot girls AND geographically close to Europe and therefore with some practice and experience one from Europe (such as me) should be able to setup things for short trips as well (go there on a long weekend for example and stay 3-4 nights then back).

No need get your teeth out buddy.

For reference about me. Was in Kiev last year, for a week, had only 2 girls (was my first time, which is why I was inefficient) which I would both consider top notch though. And I paid about 150 euro for like 2-3 hours if I remember correctly?

Both girls I found on mamba because KEC doesn't show faces and I am not willing to meet a girl that I cannot see the face of beforehand.

[Argo1990]

No way a model in Kiev for $150,completely delusional. Maybe a 5 or 6. Just because a girl Kiss you and talks to you does not make them a model. Way better looking girls in Germany, Europe and Russia then Kiev.

That depends on taste. Like I said, been living in Germany for a while now. Take 150 $ out of your wallet and find a really hot (like 8+) girl that is willing to stay for more than 15 mins. Not going to happen.

[DramaFree11]

I scored a literal model last summer 100 euro per hour + 50 for video. She wasn't a "super model" but she was 6-foot tall and had done professional modeling she showed me some pictures. Very pretty girl. I will admit I got lucky this girl was brand new and I found her via extensive Mamba research and now she's retired and long gone. Too bad, this girl had the highest sex drive of any girl I have met in Kiev. Maybe I should try out for the NBA.

And Kiev is in Europe the last time I checked.

Time is money. I can only image how much you and others spend online doing your research. Dealing with the fake profiles and scams, but you rarely talk about them this, makes me wonder.

You know what I met about other countries, any where, but Kiev.

[DramaFree11]

Please tell me where I can find "very good looking girls" to bang in Germany. You did not mean FKK girls, I assume?

Seeking Arrangements, we have went over this before. With your budget the Sky is the limit. Your wasting your time messing around in Kiev.

[AntonySun1996]

You can go to any surrounding country, including Germany and bang very good looking girls for the same money or cheaper. It makes zero sense to fly from Europe to Kiev.

Please tell me where I can find "very good looking girls" to bang in Germany. You did not mean FKK girls, I assume?

[LilJoey]

While police raids to apartment brothels do occasionally occur in Ukraine, the police doesn't care much about P2Ps. So I would say it is fairly safe to have girls coming to your apartment even under the eyes of the police.

I'm not sure this is good advice. I had an apartment on Sofievka not far from the Maidan where there were police usually walking around, and several times was stopped by police just before I could enter the door to my building when I had one or two girls with me. They asked to see ID's and other questions. I had to pay them money to let us go. The police are interested in the payoff, not the prostitution. This was a few years ago. Since then I've rented apartments not near a known police location. And I don't much bring girls home with me anymore, and usually just invite girls from mamba to come to my apartment. So I haven't had such problems again. But I would be wary of flaunting the bringing of girls to my address right under the noses of police. It's begging for trouble and just about inviting police to shake you down for some grivna.

[ChronoTrigger]

apartment brothels are ... self-deception

Why do you think are apartment brothels self deception in Kiev? I was in one last night, they work for me.

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Baseina Street. Its next to a pizza bread food outlet, maybe Domino's.

Behind a large electronic locked dark steel security front door, then the door immediately on your right when you get to the 2nd floor.

I didn't know the code, I just loiter outside for usually 10 minutes until some random other opens the security door, but they will give the code if you ask.

Dress smart else they might not let you in. Its open 24/7 but better to go after 7 pm. Women quality from 5. 5 to 9, they do a line up so you can usually get at least a 7.

Damage 2100 UAH for covered sex, paid upfront. Kissing on lips is supposed to be extra but half the time its wavered.

Reports: P age 22,5'8" blonde, looked like she hadn't slept in a week, or just had her 1st round of chemo. Zombie. Maintained a clip on plastic smile throughout. Face: 6.5, body 7 (deflated tits that looked at least 33 yo), attitude+performance 4 (cooperative, but smiling zombie), big wet comfy vagina, overall 7.

V age 26,5'6" brunette, toothy smile, nice attitude, 1 stone overweight but not bad, face 6.5 body 6.5 (good tits), attitude+performance 7, overall 7.

T age 22,5'1" golden, rare shimmering super soft skin, perfect body, big tits, but large tats on legs, face 8, body 8.5 attitude+performance 7, overall 8.

Would be higher but I'm not into short women.

O age 22,5'7 blonde, pretty 8 face, didn't see body about looks at least 8. Didn't get, hopefully later.

There's at least 1 other 8+ there.

Place isn't busy. Been 3 times (twice at 7 pm weekday, once at 10 pm weekend) and was only client there all 3 times.

All in all, 2100 UAH is a lot for sex, but its cheap to travel to Kiev, so compared to Pattaya its cheaper as long as I go for 2 weeks or less.

[Member #4722]

I scored a literal model last summer 100 euro per hour + 50 for video. She wasn't a "super model" but she was 6-foot tall and had done professional modeling she showed me some pictures. Very pretty girl. I will admit I got lucky this girl was brand new and I found her via extensive Mamba research and now she's retired and long gone. Too bad, this girl had the highest sex drive of any girl I have met in Kiev. Maybe I should try out for the NBA.

And Kiev is in Europe the last time I checked.

[DramaFree11]

This is a complete rip off, and should only be used if you are there for a short stay or a last resort, and these girls sure as hell are not models, just normal girls with Photo Shopped Pictures. Anything above $150 for one hour, is way too much money to spend in Kiev, on girls. You can go to any surrounding country, including Germany and bang very good looking girls for the same money or cheaper. It makes zero sense to fly from Europe to Kiev. You guys have all kinds of hot girls, get on SA, and find some locals.

Kiev is good for cheap average girls, safe city, good weather, many things to do during the day and if you are worried about the Visa. There is absolutely no other reason to go, if you are looking for higher end girls. There is no Night Life and Strip Bars are mediocre at best. If this is what you are looking for, I highly recommend Kiev.

[AntonySun1996]

2. Europe.

7. Asia.

Europe and Asia are continents that contain many countries, and things are quite different from on country to another.

I don't think Norway and Spain are comparable in terms of mongering, for example. Nor Singapore and Thailand.

Kiev is not perfect, but still surpasses most cities in the Old World as a mongering spot, especially if you are into Slavic girls.

Kiev is full of scams, but with more caution and efforts you can still get really hot girls here. This city is not newbie-friendly, it is for frequent visitors and people who reside here.

While I understand that you just want to warn people of the scams and potential disappointments in Kiev mongering scene, the negative aspects of Kiev are often exaggerated in your constant criticism of the city.