Kyiv

[DramaFree11]

I'm a regular visitor to Kyiv since 2006! Now, I'm in Kyiv, and I have never seen such scene before! So many tourists from the rich gulf states! The price of everything went up incredibly! Oh! My God! Kyiv is not any more a city that I have known for so many years! Radical changes! It is time to seek another destination!

Funny I wrote about this 2 years ago. I was called a liar and a racist. A lot of hard work, too many scams and it will take a decent budget. Even then you will be lucky to pull a 6.5.

[Fred54]

I'm a regular visitor to Kyiv since 2006! Now, I'm in Kyiv, and I have never seen such scene before! So many tourists from the rich gulf states! The price of everything went up incredibly! Oh! My God! Kyiv is not any more a city that I have known for so many years! Radical changes! It is time to seek another destination!

What is the range of the sky rocket price?

I would compare with the price here.

In my current place you will find most of the time black or Muslim girls for more than 200€ with basic services and stupid conversation.

I really enjoy natural slavic girls, not the plastic / Botox one, so if I must spend money for this pretty girls I would not complain too much.

Same thing for the strip clubs here. If you want to play in private with a girl, you will spend at least 500€ per hour, and there is absolutely no sex as prostitution is illegal and the girls of the club are heavily controlled on this subject.

I will go to Kiev in the middle of the summer.

[Adelat572]

I'm a regular visitor to Kyiv since 2006! Now, I'm in Kyiv, and I have never seen such scene before! So many tourists from the rich gulf states! The price of everything went up incredibly! Oh! My God! Kyiv is not any more a city that I have known for so many years! Radical changes! It is time to seek another destination!

[DramaFree11]

Have you been banned before for what is in your bio? I know if you ask too many girls if they are willing to come over for money by private message, they can report you and then you will get banned. This happened to me on Showaround. I really do not recommend you wasting your time trying on this guide-only website.

As for what to say, I have said something like "Call me Santa Clause because I have presents" and I wrote Future Sponsor in Russian another time. To be honest, I never got messages from a girl that was my type (18-24 yo, very skinny, not the fake lips stripper type). Lots of girls not my type. Also, I would say only about 15% of girls can speak some conversational English. Tinder is a long game to say the least, but something I enjoy. Two to four years ago, I had so many mini agencies write me on my normal Tinder profile, but even after three weeks on my current trip I have nothing from any professionals. I have even seen a lot of Mamba girls that declined meeting me for money on Tinder. So, maybe they are just looking for love. Times are changing in the wealthier Ukraine. I don't like it.

Thank you for the great report. Kiev has been bad for many years, the only difference now is guys like you and others are reporting the truth.

[TinyHippo]

Excellent! I will follow your journey with great interests and most likely take the same steps when I'm in Kiev. If you find good massage places with pretty & nice university girls (not silicone-botox bitches), please let us know!

One question: what kind of text can you put on Tinder to be able to hint that you are looking for these university girls as a sponsor? I'm having trouble how to formulate the bio's in various services in a way that won't get deleted and / or banned.

Have you been banned before for what is in your bio? I know if you ask too many girls if they are willing to come over for money by private message, they can report you and then you will get banned. This happened to me on Showaround. I really do not recommend you wasting your time trying on this guide-only website.

As for what to say, I have said something like "Call me Santa Clause because I have presents" and I wrote Future Sponsor in Russian another time. To be honest, I never got messages from a girl that was my type (18-24 yo, very skinny, not the fake lips stripper type). Lots of girls not my type. Also, I would say only about 15% of girls can speak some conversational English. Tinder is a long game to say the least, but something I enjoy. Two to four years ago, I had so many mini agencies write me on my normal Tinder profile, but even after three weeks on my current trip I have nothing from any professionals. I have even seen a lot of Mamba girls that declined meeting me for money on Tinder. So, maybe they are just looking for love. Times are changing in the wealthier Ukraine. I don't like it.

[Marco81]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

Pre departure info and background.

NongKhai.

Nice detailed pre-report. Looking forward to your trip and info. Enjoy your trip.

[Fred54]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

I have also saved from previous trips addresses of my fav strip clubs.

Club Rio.

Dolls.

Penthouse (a bit rough but I find the entrance unique and they often offer full service in the back) most places do not, at least to me anyway. Women are not of same quality as places above.

There are a couple in the Arena complex and I also want to try as well as Scarlette and Princess Mens if they allow me in and if I locate them.


NongKhai.

Hi,

What do you mean by not the same quality for penthouse? Which club has the best student on the scene, and not old pro?

[Desin]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

NongKhai.

Excellent! I will follow your journey with great interests and most likely take the same steps when I'm in Kiev. If you find good massage places with pretty & nice university girls (not silicone-botox bitches), please let us know!

One question: what kind of text can you put on Tinder to be able to hint that you are looking for these university girls as a sponsor? I'm having trouble how to formulate the bio's in various services in a way that won't get deleted and / or banned.

[Nongkhai]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

Pre departure info and background.

It is my 6th trip to Ukraine since 2015. I know a few sentences in Russian but almost none existent to be honest. However I can read the cryllic signs so this helps at metro and other stations. Mid 30's British.

I booked my apartment at AirBNB again, apart from my first ever trip where I stayed at Hotel Dnipro. I always find apartments cheaper, better value, normally better location and can avoid the awkwardness of the front desk walk by.

I found a great apartment just down the road from Club Rio (my 2nd Favourite Strip club).

I booked my London to Ukraine flights with FlyUIA hand luggage only, when booking I did see the option to Covid buy insurance for about £2 so jumped on that. But after booking I did not see a certificate which says you must present.

Worried I would have problems at the airport I looked to buy further Ukraine based insurance I found on this website at about 230 GRN however when I went to click through and buy it dropped to 45 grn. So I paid for this and received a certificate which I printed out.

Insurance. Search - FLYUIA (eurotravelins.com.ua).

Took my PCR test within 72 hours. Email and print.

Kiev and Ukraine are not like my other favourite destinations such as Thailand, Colombia or Kenya. It is very much more clinical, not Girl friendly but it can still be a great trip if you plan ahead. You need to use the website to find escorts, the Internet to find erotic massage places and strip clubs all saved on your google maps, and possibly Tinder if you have time and money on your hands.

Kyiv Escorts with verified photos – RelaxKiev.

Only search for independent and verified ads.

Other ads will either be a street walker using fake profiles, they will be pushy to ask for apartment location, and when they arrive and turn out to be a cat fish you have an issue on your hands.

Other ads are often brothels, pimps or agencies. You can tell that all the girls are online at the same time, location and have the same phone number ending in the last 4 digits.

Agencies are not necessarily bad but they can do a switch up on you and as they are not cheap I tend to go for verified and independent, not as cheap and only a few of them but peace of mind on who turns up.

I went ahead 2 weeks before my trip, saving the contacts into my phone, contacting through whatsapp or telegram. You can tell once you start communications if they are genuine, and independent or not from the language and chat etc.

Another site, similar name but different.

Kyiv Escort Girls with Verified Photos – RelaxPortal.

I have also paid for tinder plus and have a few matches, but these are limited as the women can tell I am not in Kiev however I have a couple of 6 or 7's ready to meet if I have time. However I have done this in past trips and a short 5 day trip is unlikely to be successful using this means.

I will re-install it once I land and make a bio more clear that I am looking for semi pro university chicks and I am a sponsor.

Additionally I have went online and found a few massage parlous that offer a massage with happy ending (no sex) these girls are often attractive university age.

Contact 2 - Salon Dream. Ukraine Kiev massage.

Other can be found here.

Erotic Massage.

Adult Entertainment.

Kyiv (inyourpocket.com).

I have 5 different massage places saved in my maps to find different varieties.

Use google maps to save address and contact on whatsapp or telegram to confirm opening hours etc before you set off.

I have also saved from previous trips addresses of my fav strip clubs.

Club Rio.

Dolls.

Penthouse (a bit rough but I find the entrance unique and they often offer full service in the back) most places do not, at least to me anyway. Women are not of same quality as places above.

There are a couple in the Arena complex and I also want to try as well as Scarlette and Princess Mens if they allow me in and if I locate them.

From late May 2021 to early June 2021 online since I have been collecting numbers I have noticed the escorts have been increasing their prices. This will be interesting when I arrive. I wonder if it is due to more customers locally and high paying tourists as noted from the Middle east or the fact that their currency is performing poorly.

Will report when I am away or on my return if everything goes smoothly. Any recommendations or would like me to check on any establishments when I am in town do let me know.

NongKhai.

[TinyHippo]

I know, this must have been discussed in parts of replies but I still hope to get non RTFF answer.

While searching for AirBnB apartments in Odessa (curiosity) I found that the value for money for apartments is way more than apartments in Kiev. Obviously Kiev is expensive but that made me wonder. If Odessa is so welcoming to tourists and so many options to choose in AirBnB, can I expect the value for money is better with girls in Odessa? I know this might not be an easy apple to apple comparison. I'm a stripclub and massage parlor guy. Can I date to venture out in Odessa after a few successful Kiev visits? Anyone cares to humor my thought?

I am not an apartment guy, but Odessa has much better apartment girls. Picking up girls in a cafe or on Tinder will be much harder than Kyiv as most do not speak English in Odessa. I was there for six months with my young Ukrainian girlfriend and rarely ran into other girls that spoke English. She had a group of about 20 friends and only one spoke at an A1 English level. If you are a westerner and can speak Russian, you will be swimming in booty.

As for the whole Muslim thing, I think it has more to do with how they treat the girls than religion. Brits have a bad reputation too with the local ladies because lets face it they are always drunk and yelling in their football shirts.

[TinyHippo]

Good discussion and great points!

Tinder has the problem that if I put it on only after I'm in Kiev, it has it's delay in finding matches. But if I put it on couple of weeks before I'm in Kiev, I won't get matches because I'm either thousands of miles away, or my distance is hidden and this probably makes certain kind of girls to swipe left.

I would not be swiping on Tinder when you are not in Ukraine unless you can spoof your location or you go the two phone route. The problem is that girls will see your location is hidden or you are 1000 km and swipe left. This will lower your ranking quickly and will make it super hard to find matches. Once you get to Kyiv, your account will be virtually dead with your low ranking. I would suggest having two Tinder accounts. One for when you are at your home location and one you open up when you arrive with an Ukrainian SIM on a different phone.

Tinder really sucks all the data it can. It knows when you use one phone to open multiple accounts by IP, MEID, Google / Apple account, etc. Be sure to put your location as Kyiv too when remote swiping and when people ask why you are 1000 km away, just say you live in Kyiv but are on business trip. I am 45 and got 40 matches in a couple days in the age range of 22-29 as an average looking dude. I lower my age a little bit and brighten the bags under my eyes a bit in photoshop. Nobody has every said anything when we met in person and I recommend getting those little gel things for under your eyes. They really do help so much.

Tinder is a long game at least for me. Probably only at 10% for ONS, but almost at 50% after three dates. I would suggest putting your profile in Russian and English too. I've met up with a few girls that speak no English. It is weird, but fun when you have zero communication skills in bed. Good luck!

[Climbing]

I am new to this site and I am planning my first trip to the Ukraine. Is it a problem being from the USA? I most certainly did not vote for Trump, but is it a problem. Also it seems that the women in the Ukraine only like to do "short time". In places like Thailand all night is usually about twice the "short time" rate, but it seems that, from what I have read, all night is like 5 times the short time in the Ukraine. I guess there is an area where the night clubs are. Are the girls there more likely to do a overnight then the escorts? I hear that most of the escorts are full of crap (photoshoped photos, and fronts for salons) but are a reasonable number of them on kexkiev. Xyz ok?

Thanks.

[Adelat572]

Hey buddy,

I may only say that most of the year Odessa is a bit cheaper than Kyiv but not in Summer time and not this Summer when EU is still closed and all tourists from Ukraine go to Odessa. I would say that the amount of rich love seekers in Odessa per girl is a lot higher than that in Kyib when we talk about Summer time. Same for prices on apartments. They grow crazy in Summer time. If you are a big sea and beaches fan and want to see more beautiful girls per square meter, then go to Odessa (cause all escort girl will go there, so there will be a ton to choose from) BUT the prices will be crazy.

Also Odessa will be full of guys from Turkey. This happens each summer, they visit Odessa like its Las Vegas. This Summer they plan to let Turkey citizens visit Ukraine without any Covid tests, so Odessa will be a district of Istanbul.

I would stay in Kyiv for few reasons. Less people, still fun, still a ton of beauties, more strip clubs and cheaper apartments, so I would say more value for 1 dollar. On the other hand, Odessa definitely has some specific vibes, some people feel them, some don't.

Hope this helps.

Hi,

I'm in Kyiv now and it is full of people from the gulf states (Saudi-Qatar-United arabEmirat-Kewit. Ect! And the price for escort went crazy with terrible quality!

[Ivan Buyan]

I know, this must have been discussed in parts of replies but I still hope to get non RTFF answer.

While searching for AirBnB apartments in Odessa (curiosity) I found that the value for money for apartments is way more than apartments in Kiev. Obviously Kiev is expensive but that made me wonder. If Odessa is so welcoming to tourists and so many options to choose in AirBnB, can I expect the value for money is better with girls in Odessa? I know this might not be an easy apple to apple comparison. I'm a stripclub and massage parlor guy. Can I date to venture out in Odessa after a few successful Kiev visits? Anyone cares to humor my thought?

Hey buddy,

I may only say that most of the year Odessa is a bit cheaper than Kyiv but not in Summer time and not this Summer when EU is still closed and all tourists from Ukraine go to Odessa. I would say that the amount of rich love seekers in Odessa per girl is a lot higher than that in Kyib when we talk about Summer time. Same for prices on apartments. They grow crazy in Summer time. If you are a big sea and beaches fan and want to see more beautiful girls per square meter, then go to Odessa (cause all escort girl will go there, so there will be a ton to choose from) BUT the prices will be crazy.

Also Odessa will be full of guys from Turkey. This happens each summer, they visit Odessa like its Las Vegas. This Summer they plan to let Turkey citizens visit Ukraine without any Covid tests, so Odessa will be a district of Istanbul.

I would stay in Kyiv for few reasons. Less people, still fun, still a ton of beauties, more strip clubs and cheaper apartments, so I would say more value for 1 dollar. On the other hand, Odessa definitely has some specific vibes, some people feel them, some don't.

Hope this helps.

[DramaFree11]

In fact Ukrainian girls love money! They don't care about your religion.

! They care about your pocket! I travel to Ukraine since 2006! All Ukrainian girls in this business, either pros. Or semi pros. All what they care about is your pocket! That is it!

Yep, there are many nights at the clubs, when I or my friends lost our girls to M. Dudes. They were throwing around mad cash. Guys would say they had a table. The girls would ask us to buy a table we would say no, the rest was history. The girls would milk them for there money, very rarely would they go home with guys. Back then a lot of girls were getting a commission from the clubs for what they got guys to spend.