Kyiv

[NightRider16]

All girls there are working, however, there are some situations when you can get a "I am only dancing" reply. It rarely happens, but it is a possibility. Maybe the girl already went out and feeling tired, maybe she is having a bad day. If that happens, just go ahead and choose another one.

Bouncers are all part of the business run by the club. Not only there won't be issues, but they will even help you if you need any assistance. If it is raining, bouncer will have an umbrella for you, if the girl is not there yet and you are waiting outside, they will find out when your dancer is coming etc.

It is really interesting the different perspectives on Rio; some responses go as far as saying bouncers will assist with umbrellas and others say they are rude and not very helpful! I can't wait to get there next week and see for myself; I will post a report and add to this discussion!

[Curious12]

I was looking at Rio and Tootsi, are they all girls you can pull out of the club and take them to your hotel room for the night? I don't want to say or suggest something and end up having trouble with the bouncers. I don't want any issues or confrontations.

All girls there are working, however, there are some situations when you can get a "I am only dancing" reply. It rarely happens, but it is a possibility. Maybe the girl already went out and feeling tired, maybe she is having a bad day. If that happens, just go ahead and choose another one.

Bouncers are all part of the business run by the club. Not only there won't be issues, but they will even help you if you need any assistance. If it is raining, bouncer will have an umbrella for you, if the girl is not there yet and you are waiting outside, they will find out when your dancer is coming etc.

[Curious12]

Thank you for the very helpful and detailed response.

You are welcome.

[Stefan 7]

I was looking at Rio and Tootsi, are they all girls you can pull out of the club and take them to your hotel room for the night? I don't want to say or suggest something and end up having trouble with the bouncers. I don't want any issues or confrontations.

What nightclubs currently have working girls in them? I was wondering about Shooters, the-Lux, Arena, Avalon and Buddha Bar? Would these be the best ones to go to? How would you approach them and what do you say? Do you have advice on how to tell if she is working or not?

Sorry for all the questions. I am new to this and trying to have the best time possible I can. Thanks.

I visited rio once last yr on a Thursday or Friday around 10:30 pm, there were only about 10-15 people there, not a single good looking dancer, downstairs stage was closed, upstairs stage where the bar is was closed too, a few yrs ago there were more people there and much better looking dancers.

There was an escort site called http://amour-russe.net/ in Paris, nearly all escorts there were russian and ukrainian girls, almost every week they were bringing new girls, most of them were so good looking and would work for like 5-10 days there, their quality of escorts was soooo much better then the average girls on KEC now, most girls had short videos on the site, too bad they were busted, I really think you guys should start looking for russian / ukrainian escorts sites outside of ukraine, too many good looking girls have already left ukraine and are working abroad.

the quality of girls on gia/KEC is now lower but their prices are higher, some the girls KEC charges at least 200/hr on KEC probably worked/still working in apartments charging 1500 to 2000 grivna per hr

[CastOnThis]

I was looking at Rio and Tootsi, are they all girls you can pull out of the club and take them to your hotel room for the night? I don't want to say or suggest something and end up having trouble with the bouncers. I don't want any issues or confrontations.

Do you not read reviews on google about these strip clubs? Literally, you will have trouble with bouncers and the girls. Why? Because they are literally all run by the same criminal group. So the format is the same. I suggest you go in and take a brief look at the girls. See any you like then stay and see what happens. But if you don't like any. Move on. And whatever you do do not take a taxi for brothels. Such silliness when they see you and know you are a foreigner.

[Muddy7]

Entrance fee to the club is 500 hrn. You choose the girl you like and ask administrator to bring her to your table. If the girl just finished dancing, she will come to you for a few seconds and say Hi. After that she will leave, change clothes and come back in a few minutes. This is a great time to look at the girl, chat with her, build some rapport with her, see if she is the one you want to take out or you want to choose someone else. You can take her for a private dance or simply ask if she wants to go to your place with you. The cost is $300 for 3 hours, $500 for the night.

If you want to pay $300 for 3 hours make sure to let her know its for 3 hours, girls want to return to the club as soon as they can for another take out to make more money, also let her know what you want from her before paying her like bare back blowjob, etc.

[BCTravel]

I was looking at Rio and Tootsi, are they all girls you can pull out of the club and take them to your hotel room for the night? I don't want to say or suggest something and end up having trouble with the bouncers. I don't want any issues or confrontations.

What nightclubs currently have working girls in them? I was wondering about Shooters, the-Lux, Arena, Avalon and Buddha Bar? Would these be the best ones to go to? How would you approach them and what do you say? Do you have advice on how to tell if she is working or not?

Sorry for all the questions. I am new to this and trying to have the best time possible I can. Thanks.

[Basha2000]

Quit complaining.

Not everyone has the same negative attitude towards Ukraine.

You constantly claim that people whom have had bad experiences never share but that's not the case. I see about 50/50 on both good and bad experiences. Probably more bad experiences than good since 1 out of every other 5 posts on here is of you constantly repeating the same thing over and over again. That Ukraine sucks and hot chicks apparently don't exist there. WE GET THE MESAAGE.

I have nothing personally against but geez give it a rest already.

For anyone that's coming from the States, Ukraine is awesome if you like blondes. I don't care what anyone says, it costs you 3 times plus here in the States for the kind of action you'the get over there even with the inflated prices complainers are constantly whinin about.

I don't partake in the scene anymore as I'm married now to a Ukrainian. She was one of the many girls I met during my time there. I met her on Tinder of all places and it was ended up being completely non-professional I've been plenty of times since but prior to meeting her I'the only been there twice for a week at a time. It's true that the less socially awkward you are and physically appealing he easier it is just like anywhere else in the world. Age tends to be less of a factor. Obviously better if you wear your age well. Tried out GIA and met so many others using various avenues. Okcupid, plenty of fish, tinder, and Facebook. Some pros and some not but I honestly never had a bad experience. Bottom line for me is that it' was way easier to meet women in Ukraine than it would be here in the States. That's both for mongering and just hanging out. I'm talking about blonde Slavic women, not Asian, not South American, or other ethnicities.

I am seeking advise from Alekezam or anyone.

I love Slavic and Russian women, I think they are the most beautiful creatures on our planet, I don't understand anyone who will disagree. My questions, is reasonable to think that going to Kiev, you are more likely to get more bang for your dollar? In oppose. Mind you, being picky, and seeking true 8,9 and 10's, on recent trip, I have phone numbers for at least 3 girls I met in Germany, all nines, but want to meet more and play more.

[NightRider16]

Entrance fee to the club is 500 hrn. You choose the girl you like and ask administrator to bring her to your table. If the girl just finished dancing, she will come to you for a few seconds and say Hi. After that she will leave, change clothes and come back in a few minutes. This is a great time to look at the girl, chat with her, build some rapport with her, see if she is the one you want to take out or you want to choose someone else. You can take her for a private dance or simply ask if she wants to go to your place with you. The cost is $300 for 3 hours, $500 for the night.

You will pay the girl either at your table or in the private room after the dance. After that she will leave you to get ready. Usually in about 10 minutes administrator will come to you and tell you that the girl is ready and you can go downstairs. You can order your own taxi or get one at the front door. Front door is a minimum of 200 hrn, doesn't matter where you go, could be 2 minutes drive, still 200.

Thank you for the very helpful and detailed response.

[CastOnThis]

Can you describe the process and cost for take out? I will be in Kiev week after next.

Always ask if you can feel her pussy. If she let's you, she can be gold.

[Curious12]

Can you describe the process and cost for take out? I will be in Kiev week after next.

Entrance fee to the club is 500 hrn. You choose the girl you like and ask administrator to bring her to your table. If the girl just finished dancing, she will come to you for a few seconds and say Hi. After that she will leave, change clothes and come back in a few minutes. This is a great time to look at the girl, chat with her, build some rapport with her, see if she is the one you want to take out or you want to choose someone else. You can take her for a private dance or simply ask if she wants to go to your place with you. The cost is $300 for 3 hours, $500 for the night.

You will pay the girl either at your table or in the private room after the dance. After that she will leave you to get ready. Usually in about 10 minutes administrator will come to you and tell you that the girl is ready and you can go downstairs. You can order your own taxi or get one at the front door. Front door is a minimum of 200 hrn, doesn't matter where you go, could be 2 minutes drive, still 200.

[NightRider16]

It is pretty much the same. Both located in the same building, same owner, same system for a takeout.

Can you describe the process and cost for take out? I will be in Kiev week after next.

[Curious12]

Friends advise Tootsi Club and Rio. What do you think? Thank you.

It is pretty much the same. Both located in the same building, same owner, same system for a takeout.

[Vital]

Hi!

I will be in Kiev next week. Which clubs are better to visit? Friends advise Tootsi Club and Rio. What do you think? Thank you.

[Whitsit]

Returned from a business trip in Kiev, plenty of great fun and contacts from late twenties to early thirties, if interrested by contacts pm stating nationality and age.

PM sent! Thank you in advance!