Kyiv

[AColonizer]

But is HunterDave the only clever monger in Kiev?

Anyway the problem is always the same, if you, men, want to speak english, then prices are Western-oriented.

[Dashriprock]

Can anyone recommend a good bar to watch the NFL playoff game (Seattle / Chicago) on Sunday nite with a good view?

Riprock

[Climaxnow]

I am going to have to spend a few weeks in Kiev for work which I was looking forward to as I have never spent time in E Europe. But having read a few pages on this forum I'm not quite as enthused as I was. Correct me if I'm wroing but Ukraine just had a bailout from the IMF, the country is pretty broke so how come the local girls get away with charging so much?

Surely the price structure is massively overinflated relative to average earnings especially when you compare to other emerging market countries like in S America or Asia or even Czech Republic and Slovakia? Or is it that only the top end of the market is getting reported here? I travel all over the world and the Ukraine does not sound like very good vfm or that many people have any quality experiences

Simple economics Bloke. Lots of resistance to any downward pressure on wages, even in times of economic turmoil. Prostitutes are the same as any other worker.

[Bloke]

I am going to have to spend a few weeks in Kiev for work which I was looking forward to as I have never spent time in E Europe. But having read a few pages on this forum I'm not quite as enthused as I was. Correct me if I'm wroing but Ukraine just had a bailout from the IMF, the country is pretty broke so how come the local girls get away with charging so much?

Surely the price structure is massively overinflated relative to average earnings especially when you compare to other emerging market countries like in S America or Asia or even Czech Republic and Slovakia? Or is it that only the top end of the market is getting reported here? I travel all over the world and the Ukraine does not sound like very good vfm or that many people have any quality experiences

[Harry Hirsch]

Halloo community

At first I used for the most an online translator, Sorry.

Wanted to write an account of my travels in 2010 in Ukraine.

After I have read in many forums, just good from Ukraine and was also impressed by the whole price thing, a buddy and I have decided to spend 10 nights in March in Kiev.

So start to pln it all, this was in December 2009, 2 Tickets for each 130€ Reserved both ways.

We wanted an apartment with two bedrooms, so found one, ordered, there was no deposit required?

So then sometimes slowly started to take care of the sweetest girls.

Thanks

www.Mamba.ru

There is no problem at all to take contact with the girls)

Have me signed in on this free site, and I picked out some nice mouse, my Money base for 6 nights was approximately 8000grn (ca800Eus)

So this has worked well with the girls, three were shortlisted in the selection.

All girls want show us Kiev on 3 or 4 days, of course, the dude has even supplied with girls).

Further more, in many forums have been on the road, also read the various warnings for apartment rentals. Since I make a request again for safety reasons under other names with a time overlap for my apartment Reserved behold for this event, it was free!

So my order will be canceled and now started the new look again.

With get a Tip Bestkivapartments stuck, booking with payment (Visa) , they pick us up at the airport for $ 35. 25 KM

Then arrived at the apartment, had the entire balance cash to be paid.

We had an apartment with two bedrooms, living room, large bathroom with sauna)

The kitchen was properly equipped and the apartment was in good condition.

Evening at 8, we have met with my flame, she brought a friend,

We are then eat sushi, my first in life (47). Then we have pulled us back into our apartments, Well I was stupid enough to not bother my flame clearer what is and is not absolute ignorance. Well, sex was a GF, all with rubber and rather listlessly, but in my quite long abstinence, I found it quite good.

Kiev she has shown us beautiful, well but then they had on the 4th evening to your "father" well came back the next afternoon, had then "this" Sex. The next day she gone again to Dad, I was already quite strange, because I was really horny, quickly Mamba made a date and hit me with pretty blonde 20 157 45 glorious B / C Cups

I think she was very inexperienced we had identified all what works and what does not, in Russian, I in English, with dictionary) it makes fun.

So then with the small in the chest, what a body, the tits have stood as a ne)

This has been a very nice soulful beat number GF FOR SEX FT all positions of the CCC, that is really good we had 3 hours, identified for 1000grn (125$)

We had arranged to meet again for the next evening.

Then I sacked my first love)

Unfortunately, the second great love was not reliable,

So I was alone again in the evening (

So I had to look again to new girlfriend)

Had there been contact with one in December, but I was too expensive for the 6 nights

But one night I wanted to give you my opinion, but the night 1700grn,

My God was a cool motherfucker, who had a real cool show, that was pure sex without any possibility of trigger, there was everything, really everything, sex with rubber.

I've stay with her the next 2 nights again).

Then the 10 days were over.

For me as laid back soon to travel to Kiev,

Well 5 weeks later it should again be ready).

This time alone for 12 nights, scheduled again at the same agency,

Nice room for $ 75 night.

Actually, I wanted something solid to last for ever and ever)

Have been done to take 2 girls for a date, the first was the pretty blonde who was not as reliable. Mid Wiele I know why they had so Magnificent tits

She was pregnant, and is looking for her baby for daddy.

They then had me picked up at the airport, cooked for me, two nights beautiful sex, but

Somehow I am not really been happy)

Well I had 2 beautiful nights)

Then I had the next day a real date, she already had a baby 19 173 48

But unfortunately she looking other than the pictures and it really was not so willingly)

Has indeed made me totally hot, but left hanging, hung he really has not)

At 10:30 pm, one word gives the other an I say to it is better you are leaving).

These were two Sex free days and nights.

Now I first wanted to enjoy my freedom, looking at Mamba and found a sweet 19 year old for 130 € 3 hours, no limit. In the time it gives finest sex FT FO ZA AV ZK A2P A2M, the next day she was allowed to visit me again)

I asked her what she does with them money, shopping?

She said she paid for, the tuition fees, since I was a little surprised, but she said, that would make a lot of girls.

The next day she had no time (so I had me a girl can get, which I have already been made before, we had agreed 8000grn for 6 days and nights.

She was and 21 172 60kg is pretty good in bed, she was actually the normal ZK FO FT, no limit) This has harmonizes very well with us.

So how come it be otherwise, it was after 4 weeks with my buddy for 12 nights in Kiev)

Yeah I know that is crazy) In March, the holiday was old and I need for 13 nights only 7 days of vacation, but have 35)

Now you know what's coming)

I had my last flame kept warm but somehow it has re-oriented (

She did not want to once again?

As I Stand. No plan B, for the second week so there already, but not the first

So we then arrived back in our apartment in March, just turn on the laptop and the first appointment with the views horny bastard made in March, this time's it normal, nothing special but more so good.

So for the next night a different looking, skinny, a model 22, 175 49 great shape and very nice to Dirty night 23:00 to 09:00 for 1500grn. No limit everything that man was really cool, they got me right back made things hard for the next evening, again was just as good on the third evening they took me then, unfortunately, added, serve as need ne nice very rarely online but just in this moment. They also came for 1500 but already the night from 21:00 to 08:30 Great body, pretty girl, more submissive, but during anal sex is taken off properly) me)

Then.

A free night for me, which I needed.

Since Monday I had arranged a Long Time Date 6nights and 3 days for 7000 but given 8000, which was really sharp, which has had about the whole thing is fun and could not get enough, even with her gives full program GFSEX, ZK FO FT AV TOY. So everything really well and she was pretty as a picture, a princess. 24 170 65kg.

I wanted to make sure you me.

So keep in touch and remained with her 6 weeks later for 5 nights, this beautiful sex again, as I had planned in September for 2 weeks again to fly to Ukraine and to make even a trip to the Crimea, I asked her whether they will accompany me, she immediately agreed, but had to make some plans.

Am again over flown and they picked me up at the airport, one night in his room for 30Eus and then we went by plane to the Crimea, a taxi 40Eus 100KM a nominee of your city, there found a room, nice location beeen at Hill Aircondition 40Eus balcony, the price in the city were OK, cheaper than in Kiev, on that more later.

Yes the sex with her is getting better again, they know each other better-containing)

Holiday in the Crimea very nice, but only with support or good knowledge of Russian.

Back we went to Kiev by train. 1 Class for both 130Eus by plane, it was 150, but first class is nice, it has a compartment for itself, and can sleep well)

After that we were together for 3 nights in Kiev.

In the Crimea I gave her the offer made to become your friend / Permanent Sponsor, I give her in the month 350 Eus that meets the cost of living including rent for a month, from here job as a teacher, in the afternoon after graduation, she earned again 200Eus) so that women can very well live in Kiev, when I'm with her then it is for free and there is still nen shopping so about 50 100EUS so length of stay)

Was then the beginning and the end of October for 4 and 5 nights with her,

Here monthly money they could have brought with me

Visa Prepayd card from a bankomat.

Was then beginning of December a week with her.

The Se x with her is fun, we have much contact with each other.

The next trip is the end of January with her a week in a resort in the Carpathians.

More trips are planned.

So it costs the equivalent of me with all the bells and whistles the night (day and night)

75Eus is, but next summer even further discounted because more trips are planned)

So now a few general things.

Apartments in Kiev cost 50-80 Eus

Agency and recommended.

www.bestkievapartment.com

,

www.partnerguesthouse.com

Take a taxi from the Agency's priced OK

Food, always first to look into the card can be very expensive!

Normal from 6Eus in a canteen, Pusata Hata, Sushi 13 Eus, Pizza 10 Eus and and and

Actually, you can say as much as us, if you know where, cheaper)

Taxi on the street very expensiv order it by phone, many speak English, or let's do it the flame.

For the girls, before making up EVERYTHING, absolutely everything)

A L L is possible.

Make the Dates not to earlie, one week before for one night, one months for long time it is OK.

Links I can not send you, the girls do adopt the one time and again, those who are watching it for some time. Professional, ripoff.

I maintain, Kiev is not dangerous, but one good portion of care to be compulsory

Passport take everytime with you!

Otherwise it costs on inspection by the police 20 Eus)

Sights, lots, best Marco Polo Travel Guide Ukraine. (German)

You can fly with Lufthansa, Air Ukraine, Wizz Air. . Price 180-270, depending on the season)

Now the most important, the dates do with the girls on man.

www.Mamba.ru

Go to the page, change to the English language, is right ne flag.

Then log on to the best! Best you lives in KIEV!

So then you have to back to country selection then Ukraine, Kievskaya obl, then Kiev.

If its the girls I studied man seeking woman, aged up to

Where as above. Goal of getting to know. This is what man needs the sensitivity.

Mamba on anything is possible, so if only a man looking se se are open for sponsorship, if you do you dislike and adjust your words)

So I've played a lot and tried to get to my goal.

Go to language in Kiev English works mostly with the girls, as in many Russian

So most of them speak English with me some of them German

Be friendly and polite are net to you and all the doors open to you.

I'm with Mamba in the habit of the girls first to write in Russian, with

Google Translator works, translating well.

If your holiday company one investigated in the summer, but before then drive a couple of days to Kiev and you take a look to the beautiful girls.

I hope you enjoyed the report, perhaps even tried hers out.

Still crystalline in their own right, that's with my mouse with security not an isolated case

Also because I played a little bit to know if the sponsorship is not too high,

So the result shows clearly that it would be very easy to repeat this.

A fixed income in Ukraine as a student very much value and

Sexually are very open to the girls there.

[AColonizer]

The first real problem is: what do you want from a girl? What do you mean for sex? Because each service has its own price. For example. 300$ overnight is expensive if you want just pussy with condom and oral with condom and no deep tongue kisses; 300$ overnight is honest if you want everything is in the menu such as http://www.rusdosug.com/ (click on "independents" and read on the left)

Hello, gentlemen,

First of all: Excuse if this post is in the wrong thread. I don't know where I shall post this one.

I will go to Kiev in some weeks, so it would be nice, if somebody could help me to have a good time there. Here are so many posts, I can't read them all, also my english isn't the best (so excuse for this horrible english). I read some posts and this is my intermediate result:

1. Where do you search for your contacts in Kiev (over internet)? I found this ones:

http://mamba.kiev.ua

(seems to be the most trustful site, right?)

http://intimdosugua.com

(looks like some fakes and can't find any prices)

http://xmodel.com.ua

(seems very much photoshop, if real)

http://www.top-modals.com

(not so much photoshop like the one above)

http://interdevochki.com

(much photoshop, if real)

http://escort-models.net

(couldn't find any informations about this page in this forum)

So which one you can advise? Which one, I should never choose? Make in sense to choose a girl with verified pics and some feedback or can they be also fake?

2. Where do you search for your contacts in Kiev (at nightclubs)? I found at the forum this ones:

Rios (price is average, takout: if girls like, around 400$ overnight, girls: good looking)

Solid Gold Verdict (price is expensive, takeout: high, around 400$ overnight, girls: good looking)

Premier Palace (very expensive)

Can you please tell me some other good nightclubs?

Do you have some other experience to this nightclubs, please let me know.

3. Where do you search for your contacts in Kiev (freebees / semi-pro)? I found at the forum this ones:

Shooters (much girl looking for rich men, some pros, takeout: average)

Avalon (mixed girl, much pros, night around 200$)

Arena (very good looking girls, expensive)

Buddha bar (much hardcore, overnight around 300$)

D'Lux (very good looking girls, some semi-pros, price: average)

In the end some questions:

4. Apartment is better than hotel? (cause security)

5. Do the girls steal from you often?

6. What is the meaning of RP and DATY?

7. Price a hour should between 50$ and 100$, for overnight max. 300$?

8. Most important question: Where can I find a good threesome (mww, it mustn't be a lesbian)?

Thank you so very much for your responses. It would help me really, because it will be my first time in Ukraine.

Best wishes,

Peter

[DoctorOral]

Fuck! I will have to travel all the way to LaQuinta? Good I have 3 days off now. I am running to book my plane right now!

Thank you for the info, I will report!

[OldSchool318]

Not convinced this is Rios (there's no seating area at the end of the stage). May be Club Maxim on the left bank, but so long since I went there. And I have definitely not seen this girl in Rios, or you would have seen a report on here!

This girls photos are being used as a advertisement for a local provider in Palms Springs California!

If you guys see her have fun. I am very jealous!

http://palmsprings.backpage.com/Fema...w-new/10868669

[TheKnight]

Has any of you met this girl here.

http://flirt.com.ua/olgavertashova/?...018451&#closed

Wow. What a bomb. But she blocked me on flirt. So I cannot contact her.

The photos show her on the poles of Rio strip club though!

Not convinced this is Rios (there's no seating area at the end of the stage). May be Club Maxim on the left bank, but so long since I went there. And I have definitely not seen this girl in Rios, or you would have seen a report on here!

[DoctorOral]

Has any of you met this girl here.

http://flirt.com.ua/olgavertashova/?...018451&#closed

Wow. What a bomb. But she blocked me on flirt. So I cannot contact her.

The photos show her on the poles of Rio strip club though!

[PeterParn]

Hello, gentlemen,

First of all: Excuse if this post is in the wrong thread. I don't know where I shall post this one.

I will go to Kiev in some weeks, so it would be nice, if somebody could help me to have a good time there. Here are so many posts, I can't read them all, also my english isn't the best (so excuse for this horrible english). I read some posts and this is my intermediate result:

1. Where do you search for your contacts in Kiev (over internet)? I found this ones:

http://mamba.kiev.ua

(seems to be the most trustful site, right?)

http://intimdosugua.com

(looks like some fakes and can't find any prices)

http://xmodel.com.ua

(seems very much photoshop, if real)

http://www.top-modals.com

(not so much photoshop like the one above)

http://interdevochki.com

(much photoshop, if real)

http://escort-models.net

(couldn't find any informations about this page in this forum)

So which one you can advise? Which one, I should never choose? Make in sense to choose a girl with verified pics and some feedback or can they be also fake?

2. Where do you search for your contacts in Kiev (at nightclubs)? I found at the forum this ones:

. Rios (price is average, takout: if girls like, around 400$ overnight, girls: good looking)

. Solid Gold Verdict (price is expensive, takeout: high, around 400$ overnight, girls: good looking)

. Premier Palace (very expensive)

. Can you please tell me some other good nightclubs?

Do you have some other experience to this nightclubs, please let me know.

3. Where do you search for your contacts in Kiev (freebees / semi-pro)? I found at the forum this ones:

. Shooters (much girl looking for rich men, some pros, takeout: average)

. Avalon (mixed girl, much pros, night around 200$)

. Arena (very good looking girls, expensive)

. Buddha bar (much hardcore, overnight around 300$)

. D'Lux (very good looking girls, some semi-pros, price: average)

In the end some questions:

4. Apartment is better than hotel? (cause security)

5. Do the girls steal from you often?

6. What is the meaning of RP and DATY?

7. Price a hour should between 50$ and 100$, for overnight max. 300$?

8. Most important question: Where can I find a good threesome (mww, it mustn't be a lesbian)?

Thank you so very much for your responses. It would help me really, because it will be my first time in Ukraine.

Best wishes,

Peter

[Sailor 222]

You mean bareback? Apart from that I would expect a full professional approach to inclide everything similar ro movies. Right?

In fact, Wiska / Anastasia / Mila is one of the best pornstars, or better, she is a real pornstar!

The problem is we can't have with pornstars the same sex like in their movies, even if we show a medical certificate.

Therefore why to pay 1000$ if she doesn't make even a deepthroat swallow blowjob?

[AColonizer]

In fact, Wiska / Anastasia / Mila is one of the best pornstars, or better, she is a real pornstar!

The problem is we can't have with pornstars the same sex like in their movies, even if we show a medical certificate.

Therefore why to pay 1000$ if she doesn't make even a deepthroat swallow blowjob?

I had the pleasure of her pussy and ass when she was just a starting out as an escort, not a porn star. Back then, she used the name of Mila and quickly gained quite a following locally. Her price then was $50 per hour. 2 hours for $80, overnight for $200. Times have changed and not for the better. And FYI, she was perhaps a good actress even back then. She at least gave a good show that the sex was just fine! I was never disappointed.

[Uke Boy]

Wiska was asking for something like 1000-1500 $ for a meeting.

I had the pleasure of her pussy and ass when she was just a starting out as an escort, not a porn star. Back then, she used the name of Mila and quickly gained quite a following locally. Her price then was $50 per hour. 2 hours for $80, overnight for $200. Times have changed and not for the better. And FYI, she was perhaps a good actress even back then. She at least gave a good show that the sex was just fine! I was never disappointed.

[Irish Lad]

Good Sir Knight, Guy-who-can't-sleep, Uke Boy, Steve, Snowy.

I have a chance to return to Kiev next year and I would like to sample more than Chicken Kiev and Borsch and the world's best vodka. I want to be prepared to sample the sexy woman.

I hear about Mamba etc and I can not read the Cyrillic alphabet let alone speak or read Rus or Ukrainian. How can an english speaking guy get laid in the Ukraine?

Any links to an English version of Mamba or something?

Although Mamba and singles etc have English versions, www.freerussiandating.us Is set up in English format.