Kyiv

[Prosal]

Hi Asian Chaos.

I am sure you are much more orgaized than the Second part of your User name implies.

Of Course, you are not expected nor obliged to Post any feedback on your return from Kiev.

But, what prompted me to reply to you here in the first place, was the amount of useful feedback & reports that you contributed to this Board before you asked questions in the Kiev forum.

Unlike others. Who are either Terminally Dim, or lacking in Manners.

Most probably Both.

You obviously attempting humour. Asian Chaos has spammed the Uzbek threads for months, but never went there. It's a specie more and more frequent on ISG unfortunatly.

[Jojosun]

My trip got delayed till the 25th of Nov. And you can be rest assured that you will be getting feedback along with the pictures to back it up.

I have gotten in touch with a tour company and they have arranged hassles free entry into Shooters, Avalon and Arena along with a female guide. I will know more about the service once I am on the ground.

As for the woman - I do not if I enough time to meet up with all of them. I have 15 short-time (1 hour) girls lined up along with possible 8 freebies and then ofcourse we have the clubs at night.

Detailed report will follow once I am in Kiev on the 25th.

Hi Asian Chaos.

I am sure you are much more orgaized than the Second part of your User name implies.

Of Course, you are not expected nor obliged to Post any feedback on your return from Kiev.

But, what prompted me to reply to you here in the first place, was the amount of useful feedback & reports that you contributed to this Board before you asked questions in the Kiev forum.

Unlike others. Who are either Terminally Dim, or lacking in Manners.

Most probably Both.

[Jojosun]

I couldn't believe the Audacity of Joe 47, when I got the following PM from him this morning.

First I have nothing against you.

I am from Canada and go to Kiev. It is a long trip.

I want to have good time in Kiev. If you want your friend to contact me(or I can contact her), I will be at Hyatt Hotel.

The money is not the Issue, but the pleasure.

Thanks a lot for your help. Joe 47

My Answer to Joe 47 via PM.

I think you have a problem understanding what I posted, or posting.

Listen Mate. I am not a pimp (understand this). I take exception to what you are saying.

My girl in Kiev is for me only.

I don't give A FUCK about your money.

I don't have a thing against you either. I have a lot against the Fucking CRAP you are Asking.

Don't bother to pm me again.

Can you imagine this? / This is someone, who out of the blue, contacts me first via pm. Altough I replied to him& posted here to clarify things, Flash Harry repeats the same insulting request.

After all the replies I posted here in answer to Joe 47, Mr 14 Questions & one Feedback in over 5& half years of him being a member here, he comes back again to invade my privacy, asking me to be his pimp.

If I wasn't so Polite& not sure wether it will be posted, I would have given him another answer.

A very good job he is not standing in Front of me now.

[AsianChaos]

So I hope Asian Chaoes can give us his feedback on his trip.

My trip got delayed till the 25th of Nov. And you can be rest assured that you will be getting feedback along with the pictures to back it up.

I have gotten in touch with a tour company and they have arranged hassles free entry into Shooters, Avalon and Arena along with a female guide. I will know more about the service once I am on the ground.

As for the woman - I do not if I enough time to meet up with all of them. I have 15 short-time (1 hour) girls lined up along with possible 8 freebies and then ofcourse we have the clubs at night.

Detailed report will follow once I am in Kiev on the 25th.

[Jojosun]

I should have added that the Restaurnt, hata rybaka, is part of a mini Entertainment Complex on the other side of the River Dnipro.

There are other food choices there as well, in addition to the strip Club & Sauna.

I went to the club one Evening, having ignored the advise of the Barman at my Hotel.

Called for a taxi & got a quote of 70 gryvnas for the return journey to the club & back to. Kreschatick.

When I got to the club, I had a good look and decided to stay for a while.

So I asked my taxi driver to join me for a drink. I Had some really erotic lap dances there.

I think Roman a young Taxi driver, who has never been to a Strip club before, got really carried away with the experience. He switched off the meter when we went to the club, and didn't charge me extra for all the time we stayed there.. We had 2 stunning dancers there for company.

He dropped me later at River palace, and I gave him 30 gryvnas as a tip.

He became my regular driver in Kiev. Saved a lot of money by avoiding the Taxi Mafia lurking outside clubs, who wouldn't move their asses for less than 100 UAH, even for a short ride late at night.

Have a good look here at the food choices & what's avilable.

www.Hata-rybaka.kiev.ua

PS. Someone here promised to give me an update on the place, via Pm.

[GandJim]

Surely that's just wrong. This club is D*Lux
PaTiPa is located on the river in Podil.

Wrong!
Patipa is indeed in front of the stadium of Dynamo, but on the other site of the road!

Just 2 quotes from quite a few posts concerning location of Patipa....

As I already mentionned before, "Street View" is now available for Kiev and it's no that difficult to check where a club is on a map, with a view of the club itself.

A picture being worth a thousand words, just look here.

Not quite exactly in front of the Dynamo stadium, but definitely not in Podil.

Jim

[Jojosun]

You are not easy man, but I will tell you: I am looking for the quality and not for quantity, I will be next week in Kiev for business (four nights), I will follow your recommandation, I will have a guide to access to the best nights clubs etc.

I will give to this forum my feedback after my trip.

Hi Joe.

I must clarify what you posted.

Asian Chaoes, did ask for suggestions& ideas to guarantee entry to high class clubs, guides etc. What I posted in reply to his questions, were suggestions only, including the Guides, and the VIP fast track clearance at the airport.

He did post that money was not an issue for him as well, so I thought of ideas to fit in with his needs.

I posted a disclaimer that I never used the services of that service provider, but reading the Feedback on their UK site, and the fact that they do have an office in Kiev, made it look very Kosher to me.

Like I said the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

So I hope Asian Chaoes can give us his feedback on his trip.

Whether you post a feedback or not is UP to you.

Frankly I am not holding my Breath anyway.

You see I am a very easy man.

Cheerio

[Ismael]

Hi there,

Hi Sammybe, and thanks for feedback. Was quite pleasant to read. I am glad my report could help.

As for me I am currently planning my next trip and again I would need some help.

After some work on Flirt (in fact, a lot of work) I have a freebie in line of sight and I need to know where I am going to take her. I thought of a restaurant as a start. Maybe an Italian restaurant (she confessed she did not know Italian food, can you imagine) or a seafood restaurant (she is fond of that). Can anyone recommend a couple of places? I don't need to impress (don't think it's her style) and obviously I do not need to get ripped off. All I need is a nice place with good food and good value for money. May I add that I am rather suspicious against so-called Italian restaurants outside Italy, which are often an outrageous ersatz of the true Italian art. But if anyone knows a place where one can taste genuine Italian food at a decent price, I am all ears.

Secondly, the club. She just loves to dance (and so do I) but she's just arrived in Kiev so she doesn't know the night-life much. Which club should I hit? The point here is not where to find chicks to pick up, but rather where the good sound is. And from what I have seen so far, this is a bit of an issue. The music at Avalon is so-so at best (and I should not even comment on what was played at the otherwise irreplaceable RP, which was just pain to the ears). Now I want to avoid the commercial, mainstream crap, as well as the "eighties are not dead" DJ sets. I am seeking true electro, say deep or progressive house or progressive trance, that would be just fine. (And not too much R'n'B, thank you.) Has anyone an idea?

Other than that and for my guidance, is there the slightest chance to get a massage with something more thrilling than a mere handjob as an ending? BJ? Full service? By RTFF I came to the conclusion that such places did not exist in Kiev, I ask just to make sure once and for all.

Last question, regarding phones. Can I buy just an Ukrainian chip and put it in my EU mobile, will it fit? Or do I need to buy an Ukrainian phone as well?

Thanks in advance!

Hi,

1. Restaurant

Normal prices Italian:

Il Patio near Bessarbaka, Pantagruel on Lysenka or Al Faro on Chervonoarmirska. Also good is Amici Mi on Honchara street

More expensive Italian:

The Vinci or Mario.

Normal prices Fish:

Murikami, Yekatorya, Planeta Sushi and Concord on Pushkinska street. The first 3 you find everywhere.

More expensive Fish:

The Vinci fish club

2. Club. just dance no fuck:

Forsage, Sorry Babushka, Faberge

3. Phone

Just buy a regular sim card in Kiev. "Life" is very good. It cost about 35 grivna. Put 20 or 30 grivna on it and you can call during your whole stay. From life to life is free.

You can use it in any phone which is simlock-free.

[Jojosun]

Hi there,

After some work on Flirt (in fact, a lot of work) I have a freebie in line of sight and I need to know where I am going to take her. I thought of a restaurant as a start. Maybe an Italian restaurant (she confessed she did not know Italian food, can you imagine) or a seafood restaurant (she is fond of that). Can anyone recommend a couple of places? I don't need to impress (don't think it's her style) and obviously I do not need to get ripped off. All I need is a nice place with good food and good value for money. May I add that I am rather suspicious against so-called Italian restaurants outside Italy, which are often an outrageous ersatz of the true Italian art. But if anyone knows a place where one can taste genuine Italian food at a decent price, I am all ears.

Has anyone an idea?

Last question, regarding phones. Can I buy just an Ukrainian chip and put it in my EU mobile, will it fit? Or do I need to buy an Ukrainian phone as well?

Thanks in advance!

You must have read my thoughts.

For a Seafood restaurant with a view &Atmosphere head to the other side of the Dnipro.

Right on the river, a reastaurant called Xata Rabata (fisherman's hut).

Address. M Khib, BYA. Pebyhii, bkoro 2.

www.Hata-rybaka. Kiev. Ua.

I took a freebie girl there on a Sunday afternoon. She loved the place, and was so impressed that a newbie such as myself, was able to find the Place.

Of course OLGA, didn't realize that my main interest in finding this place, was trying to locate (A Fish Called WANDA.), yes I do watch old films.

Actually not just one Wanda, but few WANDAS. I read in this forum about a year ago about a Fantastic Strip Club, called(Texi Omut), next to this Restaurant.

So had to do my duty when I was in Kiev, and scouted the restautant first with the Girl & the Club Later on another night.

I already posted on the club here. So no point in repeating myself.

There is a Sauna next to the club. So it might be a nice idea, if you take your girl there after the Meal.

Or even better go to the club. Very nice club and there was a Ukrainaian girl doing some Belly dancing.

One or two girls can do some lap dances for you in the public area or in a Private section.

Girls who are bi get really turned on by it. Even if not they do not find it a turn off.

For other restaurants, I would avoid Italian, and go for restaurants with atmosphere. Live Music, etc.

Georgian or Greek, Russian, etc, even if the food is not top notch, at least a restaurant with lively Music or atmosphere would do the Job.

UA sim cards do fit my Europe Mobile Phone, so should be ok with yours.

[Jojosun]

You are not easy man, but I will tell you: I am looking for the quality and not for quantity, I will be next week in Kiev for business (four nights), I will follow your recommandation, I will have a guide to access to the best nights clubs etc.

I will give to this forum my feedback after my trip.

By Joe, hope you have changed your opinion about me by Now?

See how an easyman I was with you in my Post & when I replied to your PMs?

Told you SO.

You are a Businessman & going to Kiev on some Business Right?

So, you are not really that naive, and I am sure you have done some reading here already.. Otherwise you would not have asked me via pms about semi pro models there. I can only assume that you read what I posted about the girl(Student) from Donetsk that has now moved to Kiev, who is my (personal scout) there. I did post that this girl is not for (Sharing.)

If you do bother to read my first posts about Kiev, in the Kiev ecorts section last year. You will see that it took me nearly 2 months of pms & calls to convince her to come to see me in Kiev. I asked a lot of questions & opinions about the ongoing correspondence between us at the time to help me make up my mind.

And when she did turn up in Kiev I treated her really well. Now she calls me her Dream.

Now you tell me since you are looking for Quality, not quantity. Why should I pass on her info on to you or anyone else for that Matter, when she is not on the Mongers Domain? /

What's in it for yours Truly?

My Business in Kiev is having Pleasure there. I spend weeks & months doing research here & there to find the Quality gems.

I suggest that if you are looking for quality you do the same & put some feedback into this Forum first. There are somethings in Life, that your money, or any Money just can't buy, called Style& TACT.

Wasn't lecturing you, just a gentle Reminder.

[Insomniaque]

Hi there,

I just did what you did and it turned out wonderful so as soon as the girl walked out (about 5 minute ago) I began to write this just to thank you with a big grin on my face.

Hi Sammybe, and thanks for feedback. Was quite pleasant to read. I am glad my report could help.

As for me I am currently planning my next trip and again I would need some help.

After some work on Flirt (in fact, a lot of work) I have a freebie in line of sight and I need to know where I am going to take her. I thought of a restaurant as a start. Maybe an Italian restaurant (she confessed she did not know Italian food, can you imagine) or a seafood restaurant (she is fond of that). Can anyone recommend a couple of places? I don't need to impress (don't think it's her style) and obviously I do not need to get ripped off. All I need is a nice place with good food and good value for money. May I add that I am rather suspicious against so-called Italian restaurants outside Italy, which are often an outrageous ersatz of the true Italian art. But if anyone knows a place where one can taste genuine Italian food at a decent price, I am all ears.

Secondly, the club. She just loves to dance (and so do I) but she's just arrived in Kiev so she doesn't know the night-life much. Which club should I hit? The point here is not where to find chicks to pick up, but rather where the good sound is. And from what I have seen so far, this is a bit of an issue. The music at Avalon is so-so at best (and I should not even comment on what was played at the otherwise irreplaceable RP, which was just pain to the ears). Now I want to avoid the commercial, mainstream crap, as well as the "eighties are not dead" DJ sets. I am seeking true electro, say deep or progressive house or progressive trance, that would be just fine. (And not too much R'n'B, thank you.) Has anyone an idea?

Other than that and for my guidance, is there the slightest chance to get a massage with something more thrilling than a mere handjob as an ending? BJ? Full service? By RTFF I came to the conclusion that such places did not exist in Kiev, I ask just to make sure once and for all.

Last question, regarding phones. Can I buy just an Ukrainian chip and put it in my EU mobile, will it fit? Or do I need to buy an Ukrainian phone as well?

Thanks in advance!

[Uke Boy]

I will give to this forum my feedback after my trip.

Yeah, right and you also will not come in her mouth.

We have all been besieged by types such as yourself for information and promises of honest reporting afterwards.

Guess what, in at least 95% of the cases, these guys lie and no report follows. When you show solid contributions and not a bunch of questions that can easily be answered if you just RTFF, then you might get some advice.

[Joe47]

The operative Letter should read A , in Sneaking Back

Two Way Traffic , open next time in Kiev .

You are not easy man, but I will tell you: I am looking for the quality and not for quantity, I will be next week in Kiev for business (four nights), I will follow your recommandation, I will have a guide to access to the best nights clubs etc.

I will give to this forum my feedback after my trip.

[Jojosun]

Hi joe.

I was going to ha ve a bit of a rest from here. But couldn't resist sneeking back, having a looky here & noticed your post.

Since you contacted me first via pm, re your (2nd question), I thought it is in your interest & other first timers to Kiev to have this discussion on the open forum.

I notice that you have been a member of this board for over 5 years and you have a total of (15 posts). 14 questions + only one feedback.

I mean you are not exactly a spring chicken? So I would have thought the answer to you first question on Kiev post rp, is obvious.

Rtff here its all there.

It is obvious from your posts, that money is not an issue for you as you say. But with all due respect to you & your wallet, money can buy a lot of things & not just in Kiev. But finding (your outstanding girls) or as you put it in your pm to me, semi pros models, is going to prove much more difficult, because even in Kiev you need tact& style, to fish them out, or to get a helping hand.

I mention this last point, as you stated in pm, that gia girls are not your style. So the only way you are going to find beautiful semi pro models in Kiev is by you doing a lot of arm+ leg work there.

And once you find them & where you found them, it would be very nice to stick a report here. Then you will find a breezy two traffic open for you next time you go back to Kiev.

Ps. I thought I reply to your question, just in case someone here tries to flame you first.

Cheers

The operative Letter should read A , in Sneaking Back

Two Way Traffic , open next time in Kiev .

[CallSign Papa]

Dear fellows

I've been doing my homework on mamba for some weeks and some of the girls I've known mentioned the fact that Opera and Hyatt would not be girl friendly.

Can anyone confirm this? Please consider that I am planning overnight sessions (22:00 to 07:00).

If the problem indeed exists then what should be done? Tip the bellboy? Pretend to go to the bar/casino (at Opera) and then head to the rooms?

Thank you for your help!

I've stayed at the Opera a few times, I've seen guys walking through reception with blatent hookers (athough I grant you, in Kiev it is sometimes hard to tell, but not at 3am )

I would say fairly confidently that the Opera is GF.